Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer in a day - What's A-Net going to do about it?

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by lakatz
LOL... no... THIS is the picture I painted. Or one of them anyway.
Nice portrait of Freddie Mercury. Though I prefer the mustached version.

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond
Nice portrait of Freddie Mercury. Though I prefer the mustached version.
LOL... Thanks.

I wonder how the subject of the painting would feel about being compared to Freddie Mercury. You know, now that you mention it, I think FM would have been just devastating if he'd had pale blue eyes as well.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
don't tell me wall hugging is hard work, if it is, then starting out from a new map would be as hard as starting to map from 80++% when the title came out and I have 4 of those characters and am painstakingly doing it, one character after another, so don't even attempt to say using texmod is the same effort as doing it my way.
There's nothing challenging about it whatsoever. It's all time. Some have more time than others

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
plus the hardest part is figuring out where the hell you have miss on the map and texmod does that for you,
Not hard, just tedious. I haven't known someone who's able to look at an incomplete map *without referance* and say "Whoop, there's the spot!"

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
much like what aim-bot do from your description, aim - hit, aim - go map it, voila i can do one miss spot in 15 minutes with a runner skills equip. probably less, but i wouldn't know cos i don't have a running character.
First, gl running through an area it's a pain in the ass. It's faster to just get a good hero/hench team and raise hell. Second, about Aimbot, no. A more accurate description is if the carto mod did all the moving for you. It doesn't.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
Yes, it does cut down a considerably giant amount of work, of not having to repeatedly going from one map to another again and again and again and agian picking up 10 x 0.001% miss area to make up the 0.1% ...

don't tell me wall hugging is hard work, if it is, then starting out from a new map would be as hard as starting to map from 80++% when the title came out and I have 4 of those characters and am painstakingly doing it, one character after another, so don't even attempt to say using texmod is the same effort as doing it my way. plus the hardest part is figuring out where the hell you have miss on the map and texmod does that for you, it tells you where you have miss. much like what aim-bot do from your description, aim - hit, aim - go map it, voila i can do one miss spot in 15 minutes with a runner skills equip. probably less, but i wouldn't know cos i don't have a running character.
You do say one thing that's valid; using Texmod does reduce the amount of tedious, repetitive effort required. I know. I've done Canthan GMC with no mod, and Tyrian with the mod. (Look out, Elona, here I come! ^_^)

The thing is, the mod doesn't actually make anything easier. I will find those last few areas. I will do it by comparing maps, because I'm not a total idiot. I won't give up until I'm finished.

A better in-game map doesn't change any of that.

The hard part (if there is one) is actually going to the areas and mapping them. The difficulty in finding those areas is, in my opinion, an accidental side effect of an interface that was never designed to support serious exploration.

Bryant Again is absolutely right. It's not practical to use a running build to map. You're sure to get caught in some tiny corner, or miss a spot while evading monsters, and if you're lucky enough to avoid that, the teensiest bit of lag will cause the server not to recognize that you just shot by that part of the map, and you might as well have stayed home.

If you could use a running build to map, you could do the same thing without Texmod.

Yes, it may be faster to get a cartographer title these days, but any extra time I spent doing it the old way is not something that I feel is worth bragging about. It was pathetic, really.

They may not be worth a darned thing to a lot of people, but my GMC titles aren't worth any less because people now have a better map interface.

Foul Play Leo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

MC

E/Mo

Nothing more can be said really that was not said a lot of times.. So I just thank all for there comments Good and Bad on this post for like said befor being one of the makers it shows me that I did not waste my time trying to help out the greater good... For those that don't like it we are not asking you to use it and yea I respect your title alittle more for doing to old way as I have
... Does it matter though not really as long as you enjoy it your self.. Peace to all and have fun !!!!

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

ok wait, the OP is angry because there's a mod that makes this game more fun and less like having a job?

Lol.

Amon Warrior

Amon Warrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

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Originally Posted by pamelf
ok wait, the OP is angry because there's a mod that makes this game more fun and less like having a job?

Lol.
He had a change of heart and even made the sensible suggestion to add this mod into the game so that all could benefit...

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

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Originally Posted by Amon Warrior
He had a change of heart and even made the sensible suggestion to add this mod into the game so that all could benefit...
Ah, I see, didn't read the whole thing. Too many pages.

Shouldn't this be closed then?

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

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Originally Posted by Foul Play Leo
Nothing more can be said really that was not said a lot of times.. So I just thank all for there comments Good and Bad on this post for like said befor being one of the makers it shows me that I did not waste my time trying to help out the greater good... For those that don't like it we are not asking you to use it and yea I respect your title alittle more for doing to old way as I have
... Does it matter though not really as long as you enjoy it your self.. Peace to all and have fun !!!!
Amen.
And also it's a great mod, I'm using it for EotN, which doesn't have the benefit of a % track in your titles (it's included in Master of the North for those who don't know) so it's even more useful there.

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Originally Posted by pamelf
Shouldn't this be closed then?
It'd be nice, this one keeps floating up like a bad smell.
I think people are just wondering whether Gaile will add any more comments.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by Saraphim
It'd be nice, this one keeps floating up like a bad smell.
I think people are just wondering whether Gaile will add any more comments.
Yep, if anyone's to blame for keeping this thread alive, it's "we will look into it" Gaile..

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

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Originally Posted by pamelf
Ah, I see, didn't read the whole thing. Too many pages.

Shouldn't this be closed then?
Gaile leaped to the defense of the original poster -- who then later change dhis mind. But Gaile is now off on her crusade to save people from having fun by raising the "issue" with her boss...

Thanks god a mini-pet or hat isn't at risk...

Gaile could end this all easily with a SIMPLE and DIRCET statement. Not a long diatribe with sarcastic comments like she's prone to these days, but a CLEAR STATEMENT of what ANet's intentions are in regard to Texmod.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

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Originally Posted by ChaoticCoyote
Gaile leaped to the defense of the original poster -- who then later change dhis mind. But Gaile is now off on her crusade to save people from having fun by raising the "issue" with her boss...

Thanks god a mini-pet or hat isn't at risk...

Gaile could end this all easily with a SIMPLE and DIRCET statement. Not a long diatribe with sarcastic comments like she's prone to these days, but a CLEAR STATEMENT of what ANet's intentions are in regard to Texmod.
They've already done that.

Please don't make me run a search for you.

Official acceptance is the only reason I'd ever touch the thing.

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

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Originally Posted by Rhedd
They've already done that.

Please don't make me run a search for you.

Official acceptance is the only reason I'd ever touch the thing.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:...cs#CR_response

I ran the search for you.

zzt711

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Legend in His Own Mind

W/A

I THINK IT IS CHEATING.

Most people who reply to this forum are going to be biased thinking thinking that it's a benefit and it helped them get that last 2%. Well you know what, then you did something wrong, skipped something, didn't properly scrape EVERYTHING, etc, TOUGH!

I received my max cartographer titles the hard way... scrape scrape scrape... I even did Prophecies and Factions before the advent of heroes and being able to place your heroes/henchies somewhere with flag. Do people realize hard it was doing it with dumb AI henchies before.

It makes me sick that the cartography titles can be gained so easily now, where before it actually meant something having that title.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Originally Posted by zzt711
I THINK IT IS CHEATING.

Most people who reply to this forum are going to be biased thinking thinking that it's a benefit and it helped them get that last 2%. Well you know what, then you did something wrong, skipped something, didn't properly scrape EVERYTHING, etc, TOUGH!

I received my max cartographer titles the hard way... scrape scrape scrape... I even did Prophecies and Factions before the advent of heroes and being able to place your heroes/henchies somewhere with flag. Do people realize hard it was doing it with dumb AI henchies before.

It makes me sick that the cartography titles can be gained so easily now, where before it actually meant something having that title.
I think of it this way, a game is new at say $50, then it drops to $20. Cartography was really hard before (just like games being expensive), and now it's less work ( like a game being less money).

If that makes sense

Karyuu

Karyuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Kahlifownia

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zzt711
I THINK IT IS CHEATING.

Most people who reply to this forum are going to be biased thinking thinking that it's a benefit and it helped them get that last 2%. Well you know what, then you did something wrong, skipped something, didn't properly scrape EVERYTHING, etc, TOUGH!
Is using Photoshop cheating too?

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by zzt711
It makes me sick that the cartography titles can be gained so easily now, where before it actually meant something having that title.
There was no difficulty in the title before the mod was invented. Now it just takes slightly less amount of time and isn't as aggravating.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

To the OP... QQ less.

Infinity^

Infinity^

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

House Behelit

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In my view the in-game map was never designed for cartography titles, texmod is what the maps should have been updated to by ANet when these titles were introduced. Please don't try and kid yourself that staring at a blank wall and strafing requires any skill or holds any meaning.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Doing less work to get the same thing is awesome. You can feel unfair all you want, but uhh... let's put it this way:
When people see your Legendary Cartographer, they don't go "WOWZ HE'S SO LEETX0RZ!" They go "Wow he spent a lot of time in a video game >_>"
There is no worth to titles.
Since you like to QQ much, you should go complain about Legendary Guardian and say: "OMG, some ppl can just get other people to run them through the missions, that is completely not fair!" You should try it and see how many people actually care.

Killy D

Killy D

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

[MnN] Chocolate Sweet Chocolate

Mo/

End of the day it's just a game. People enjoy title hunting. You still gotta run a similar distance to get 100%. Don't ruin people's fun, if they have fun using a mod then good for them, I like using the mod too with a beer and some music looking at what I still need to get. All about having fun.