State of the Game—October 29, 2007

State of the Game—October 29, 2007

Remember when?

By Sean Ferguson

With frequent updates and skill balances exploding into the fluxing metagame, Guild Wars players have marched through numerous game permutations, some drastically different than others. Veteran players will most likely recall these tales from earlier days, but do you remember when...

1. Lightning spike actually used Elementalists with lightning skills?

Chain Lightning
Elementalist - Air Magic - Spell
Energy: 10
Activation: 3
Recharge: 10
Spell. Target foe and up to two other foes near your target are struck for 10..85 lightning damage. This Spell has 25% armor penetration and causes Exhaustion.

The first dominant lightning spike build consisted of several Air Elementalists with Chain Lightning. They'd queue up the skill and stun enemies into submission by dropping two or three players with the first volley. Over time, their popularity faded and Mesmers, with their fast-casting ability, took up the lightning spike role, firing off skills like machine guns. But Mesmers relied on elite skills from the Elementalist line, and a set of skill balances made it too hard for anyone other than a primary Elementalist to use those skills. Eventually Ritualists moved to the forefront of lightning spike. They had their own skills for spiking, so they didn't have to depend on a secondary profession. And, unlike Elementalists, Ritualists had the advantage of varied defensive and healing skills.

2. Spirit spamming was merely a couple of Rangers and about a gazillion Spirits?

An early game update annihilated Spirit spamming (to an extreme extent) as a play style. Previously, a Ranger or two could control a huge section of the map, both with Spirit global effects and positional blocking. It was no stretch to have 20-plus Spirits clustered into one tiny area, totally walling it off and creating excessive frame rate lag at the same time. Many players considered this an unfun part of the game, and the game update addressed their concerns.

3. Victory or Death (VoD) didn't happen until 45 minutes?

Instead of GvG lasting up to 45 minutes or more, a clear winner now usually emerges by 25 minutes. Besides the VoD time, many other GvG changes have occurred: Arcanists were replaced by Bodyguards, the guild lords move at VoD, and there is now a message when your base comes under attack. These changes to VoD have resulted in a faster-paced, more dynamic and adrenaline-filled game. While it's harder to take down the opponent's guild lord through cheap, underhanded ganks, the final outcome tends to happen a lot faster.

4. There was no Balthazar faction?

Unlocks for PvP skills used to happen exclusively through playing PvE. Eventually, this system became too unwieldy, and PvP rewards were introduced as a way to get unlocks. Also, in 2006, PvP editions of different campaigns went on sale with all skills unlocked for competitive play.

5. Rift Guardians guarded the Tomb of the Primeval Kings?

"Tombs," now named "Heroes' Ascent," is a tournament style of game play with teams of eight progressing toward the Hall of Heroes. But before a team can even fight other live teams, it has to defeat a group of NPCs. These NPCs used to be Rift Guardians that were spread out across a wide area. Now, Unworthy Dead form a sort of AI bot team, similar to a group of players, to more accurately measure the quality of a team attempting to join the tournament. If your team can't defeat the Unworthy, you probably won't do well against other players...

6. You could get winning streaks of more than ten matches in Random Arenas?

After winning ten matches in Randoms, a team now goes to Team Arenas. Lengthy winning streaks in Team Arenas are still possible, but in Randoms no team can go more than ten. This helps ensure a more balanced environment, keeping the strong teams around for only a limited time.

7. War Machine and the Last Pride drove the metagame?

Two Korean guilds with huge influence on the metagame, these players employed aggressive split tactics, unpredictable builds, and solid individual play to rise to the top of the ladder. The Last Pride showed people how to split when Hex builds became prevalent after the nerf of Remove Hex. They both participated in World Championships, but real life commitments such as mandatory military service broke these teams apart. War Machine is still around, but without most of its original members.

8. These builds—Spirit Spam, Ether Renewal, IWAY, Obsidian Flame, Air Spike, ViM Trappers, Minion Factories, Ranger Spike, Blood Spike, FoC spike, Bunny Thumpers—were the flavor of the month?

"I Will Avenge You!"
Warrior - Strength - Shout
Energy: 5
Activation: 0
Duration: 10
Recharge: 45
Shout. For each dead ally, you gain 10 seconds of +3..7 Health regeneration and your attack speed increases by 25%.

Each of these experienced numerous different iterations and surges of popularity. Skill nerfs, game mechanic balances, new professions, and evolving counters all contributed to excising these builds from the metagame. Many of them still exist, though in altered form. IWAY, for example, survives mainly as a concept, or style of play, where the offense is front-loaded and defense consists of aggressive play and weak self-healing.

9. Frenzy was considered a bad skill?

Frenzy
Warrior - No Attribute - Stance
Energy: 5
Activation: 0
Duration: 8
Recharge: 4
Stance. For 8 seconds, you attack 33% faster but take double damage.

Yeah. Everybody thought so. It makes you attack faster, but you take twice as much damage when you use it! Who wanted that? An early guild known as "Kor" that formed during Alpha and open Beta testing set a lot of trends. Among those was repeated use of adrenaline spike, and a key component of their spike was Frenzy. Kor was among the first to use Frenzy and then swap out of it with another stance. Earth-shaking concept at the time, though now everyone takes it for granted.

10. Divine Boon was the way to heal, and make no mistake about it?

For what seemed like forever, Boon Monks were the bread and butter of teams from Random Arenas to PvE missions to high level GvG matches. To fuel their high Energy costs, they relied on skills from other professions, such as the Necromancer's Offering of Blood. Some of them even carried Vampiric Gaze to help with spikes. A series of changes to the costs of using such skills and the Energy returned from others ultimately resulted in the demise of the Boon Monk as a popular build.

11. Fire Elementalists were useless?

Rodgort's Invocation
Elementalist - Fire Magic - Spell
Energy: 25
Activation: 2
Recharge: 5
Spell. Target foe and all nearby foes are struck for 15..120 fire damage and set on fire for 1..3 seconds.

For a long time, the PvP fire mage was neglected, cold, and alone. But after a series of new skills and some buffs to traditional skills, the fire mage descended back upon PvP like a wrathful meteor from the sky, bringing with it widespread destruction and ensuring itself a favored place among many teams. Previously, fire mages lived mainly in PvE, where players held aggro and nuked mobs with massive fire damage.


Sean Ferguson is an ArenaNet staff writer. He produces the State of the Game, Match Reports, and the Guild of the Week series. In addition, he authored the PvP Primer series, acts as an onsite reporter for events such as PAX, and also writes and edits other articles, website material, and in-game content.

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Reminiscing about past metas makes you pro.

it's written by anet, which makes it automatically pro.

At least they got the facts correct, but what use is this to anyone other than a burst of nostalgia?

Is this a "look at all the stuff we've done for you in the past, now quit whining"- post from Anet?
Doesn't change the fact that GW's PvP is on its deathbed...

T_T i miss my Boon Prot....

Wow thats a lot of self hate right there....its a nice nostalgic post so you immediately assume its "quit whining" message?

I think its a great post for people who didn't pay attention to PvP since the beginning.

Nice trip down memory-lane. I always wondered what old-school spirit spam was all about and now I know.

I like the way the writer wasn't afraid to use the word 'nerf' too.

ahh the good old days, I sure miss them

So, what about returning or at least examining returning some of those skills..for example Feast of Corruption was nerfed because of being an all necro spike. Instead of nerfing Soul Reaping(which has happened now) the skill was nerfed and hasn't seen serious use in pvp or pve since. Are you looking ar re-adjusting Ether Renewal since the Smite skills have been toned down now(Zealots Fire takes an extra 1 energy now for example)? The original spirit nerf was well warranted though and I do remember seeing way more than 20 spirits on halls maps. the holding teams during prime time could not only totally seal up the altar to keep any other ghostly's off but just using Fertile Season near the other 4 teams could often prevent anyone from even finishing the first matchup. FWIW back then 4 teams loaded to Halls and each had to defeat one team before it could attack the holding team whereas today 2 teams load to attack the holding team.
Nice bit of nostalgia...the only meta that actually sickened me was true spirit spam. Gale wars weapon swapping exhaustion away was broken too but didn't actually break the game in anywhere near the same way.

Writing about past events and metas is a clear sign that there is nothing intresting in the present moment to write about.
* yawn *

There is a significant lack of Gale in that article.

I would prefer to read an article about what they haven't done and see if they actually have a clue as to their lack of overall effort.

edenial meta anyone?

Trains of melandru and grenth's dervishes in gvg?

paragons breaking 6man HA and raping the dead body?

eurospike in gvg?

o_O

It's very interesting information to those that weren't there at that time and are looking forward to PvP one day (in the future). It puts (some little) things into perspective. And I hope it'll generate equally interesting responses here! (but I'm afraid that the shortcuts, such as abbreviations and names only known to PvPers from that period, that people use when describing their past experiences does not make their knowledge accessible to newbies)

...but I'm sure that she'll chime in defending the author in a bit.

Oh wait, that's the OTHER Gale...

Well newbies can see the acronyms and look it up i guess ^^;

Yes, definitely. I didn't pay much attention to PvP when I started playing, and I still don't (maybe PvP once in a blue moon), and I found it interesting to read.

It's good to see what they've done (or trying to do) to make it an enjoyable gaming experience. They don't always get it right, but at least you know that not everything is set in stone and changes can/will happen.

Here's hoping IWAY is lying dead in a gutter somewhere, after being used by so many, many men. *Raises glass*

That's not what I meant, I wasn't clear: my point was that if too many acronyms end up forcing "us" (not exclusive group of people) to look for 1 minute for a word every 2 minutes we read one post, it's not going to work. But well, maybe that's inherent in PvP, or the "l33t" side of it.

Anet's article is nice, in that it is readable by a wide spectrum of people. And I've read several posts in GWG of the same quality. It's just that sometimes it's difficult to continuously swithc .

He wanted to write something about it, but got interrupted

SF way with a grenth
Spiritual Pain spike
SB/RI
Energizing Finale meta
>^_*<

I enjoyed the trip down memory lane or nerf lane which ever fits best. Can't believe they left out edge bomb groups! Now there was a skilled build =p

Nostalgia is a bit odd for a "state of the game" article.


Suggestion: Create some GW lore instead of State of the Game articles.

Only few Henchmen have an official write-up on Guildwars.com.

- Tell me more about Livia! (e.g. her address)
- Aidan. He seems to have a troublesome past. Tell me more about him, maybe also why he always gets bad builds.

- Tell us more about Pyre Fierceshot's warband.
- A background story for Rotscale, please.
- The diary of Duncan, the Hierophant.
- Confessions of Gwen: I had part in the Searing.
- What Eve really thinks about Livia.
- King Adelbern's speech to the people of Ascalon: How to vanquish the Eastern Frontier.

Personally, I think Rotscale's an underling of that undead dragon mentioned in the GW2 article. After all, he -is- in the same zone where the Mantle found the Scepter of Orr...

IMO: Writing an article like that, it takes the same kind of nerve it takes to openly brag about the number of endangered animals one has killed.

LMAO.

And now back to Hunting and killing with Jimbo and Ned.

IWAY?

I hear that.... I think of the White Mantle.
That is all.
The rest of it means little or nothing to me.
I have been playing since just before the release of Nightfall.... so not all that long in the grand scheme of things.

I think the earliest nerf I remember is.... Spiritual Pain. I never really paid attention before that. I just found the idea of Mesmer nuke-squads to be highly amusing.

I guess the point of the article is to reminisce about the old days and how fun they were right? Pretty odd State of The Game article. Thats cool. I will never forget how much fun I had. Oh and yea it totally needs more Gale

Needs more Gale.

LMAO... and yeah wheres there EoE bomb nostalgia? Nothing better than going into the 1st Tombs fight as a noobie getting ready to fight the other team and as you get into range your whole team and all of theirs but 1 guy exploded in a split second making you wonder just what the hell happened... lol.

Remember when Proph Necros had 30+ minions, SR was broken, and Sorrow's Furnace was 2-man-green-farmable? Yeah, I don't miss them at all.

Also, PVP = meh.

Same here. That's all I could remember them using.

Anyways, it was a fun read. It did give some good insight into how much GW has moved on.

Anyone remember attribute refund points?

That was one thing I was glad to see the back of!

Bunny Thumpers are still common in HA...

/Seconded

Balthz Stack?

OMFG! One could only imagine if they had never nerfed that and Hero MM's were able to do that. PvE would be like starting Pre Sear with a Level 20.

Ranger Spike and 2 Faction per kill...the good old days...

He left out all the crap they've done to the Necro over this period of time. Capping Minions to 10 and the horrible nerf to SR. Then the attack on hexes. Poor necro does anyone use them much in GvG or HA anymore? I remember they had some popularity with IWAY before it got nerfed to oblivion and then some of the Necro Blood Spike teams and then they nerfed OOB to oblivion as well and that was the end of that. Seems like everything that was FUN has been nerfed to Oblivion. Because of some whiney balance whiners who only want to see the stupid holy trinity wars and every GvG match goto VoD. Boring Very Boring.

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya He left out all the crap they've done to the Necro over this period of time. Capping Minions to 10 and the horrible nerf to SR. Then the attack on hexes. Poor necro does anyone use them much in GvG or HA anymore? I remember they had some popularity with IWAY before it got nerfed to oblivion and then some of the Necro Blood Spike teams and then they nerfed OOB to oblivion as well and that was the end of that. Seems like everything that was FUN has been nerfed to Oblivion. Because of some whiney balance whiners who only want to see the stupid holy trinity wars and every GvG match goto VoD. Boring Very Boring.

Aren't you supposed to be hanging out in the Ascalon Arena right about now?