PC Gamer Gives GW:EN a 68%
Big_Iron
I'm kind of surprised this hasn't been posted yet (yes, I searched). To sum up, without breaking any copyright laws:
Pros: Lots of new content.
Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player
Bottom Line: GW:EN doesn't live up to its expectations
No. 168
Dec. 2007
Volume 14
Number 12
Remember, a 68% is "above average" on the PCG scale. It's not bad, but it ain't great either.
It's not on line yet, so no need to look there...unless you really want to.
Pros: Lots of new content.
Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player
Bottom Line: GW:EN doesn't live up to its expectations
No. 168
Dec. 2007
Volume 14
Number 12
Remember, a 68% is "above average" on the PCG scale. It's not bad, but it ain't great either.
It's not on line yet, so no need to look there...unless you really want to.
Havre Fras
More than i'd have given it. By a whole 3%, that is.
Speaking of PCG did they ever rate Big Rigs?
Speaking of PCG did they ever rate Big Rigs?
Bryant Again
PC Gamer? The same people who created the Ultimate Guild Wars Guide and the GW2 issue?
Ouch.
Ouch.
Jumping Is Uselss
I've checked other game reviewer sites and they all gave Eye of the north above average ratings. IGN gave it 7.9/10 and Gamespot gave it 8.0/10. I guess its above average rating fits it. GW:EN didn't really excite me much, and HoM was a disappointment.
Zeek Aran
1: Pros: Lots of new content.
2: Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player
1: Wrong
2: Wrong
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2: Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player
1: Wrong
2: Wrong
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Vinraith
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too difficult for the casual player |
What problems there were with GWEN have, IMO, largely been resolved by the updates to title rank rewards. At this point it's a hell of a lot of fun. I've spent more time playing it with my primary than I ever did playing Factions and unlike Factions there's a lot left to be done in GWEN.
Dante the Warlord
Well i hardly anyone in this forum can argue the casual gamer point since the fact we have a guildwarsguru account marks us an above average gamer. GWEN was a dissapointment im not going to lie. I was really excited when they announced that they would have new bonueses or something for lvl 20 players. The only thing that happened was we had to be lvl 20 to play GWEN, i was dissapointed. However, the best thing of this game was the preorder. Having EVERYTHING transfered and keeping the goods was awesome.
Mohnzh
Wasn't GW:EN advertised as being pseudo-elite? It was promoted as being more challenging than any of the other three campaigns. If so, why would "too difficult for the casual player" be listed as a con? It's also a bad idea to use such an abstract measuring stick as casual player. I do not find GWEN challenging. I do not consider myself as casual, but neither hardcore. 5 hours a week tops (if I get to play at all)? What do you think? But I used to play a lot more. Who is to say what a casual player can do? If someone only plays a few hours maybe two or three times a month, then most likely that person cannot access GWEN anyway. Unless you had yourself run through all the hard missions, GWEN should not be too bad. Or is casual determined by how long you can play at any given time? 15 minutes at a time cannot do anything in any campaign. An hour? maybe a couple of quests or a mission. There are a few places in GWEN that require a few hours of time, but aren't they usually optional dungeons? I would say GWEN was promoted as a game for people who were really into GW. The fact that they made it that way is a pro, not a con.
Alexandra-Sweet
lets hope Arena Net will learn from their mistakes.
If Guild Wars 2 has the same bugs and issues like the current Guild Wars I would really be dissappointed.
If Guild Wars 2 has the same bugs and issues like the current Guild Wars I would really be dissappointed.
Sniper22
Wow, are you serious? I actually thought that GW:EN was the best expansion ever. Yes it's kinda short, but I don't feel like I have to rush through it and some of the quests are actually kind of cool. There is a bunch of dungeons, I beat mhenlo in a 55 duel, got rank spammed by charr, saw Lina get run over by a boulder.... IMO this stuff is pretty cool. Seems like people are complaining about getting r5 titles for armor and stuff, but it doesn't seem that hard cause 3/4 titles (not dwarf) are already 3+ just by doing the main quests and a few side quests, so scraping up a few more points to get 5 won't be that hard. My only complaint about GW:EN is that the main story line is a little short, but then again i paid $10 less.
Symeon
PC Gamer PROTIP:
Healing Breeze is good for keeping you alive!
Healing Breeze is good for keeping you alive!
lutz
1. Too little new content.
2. Difficulty is just right. Difficult for new players, and moderate for Hero-Henching without imba N/Rt builds.
2. Difficulty is just right. Difficult for new players, and moderate for Hero-Henching without imba N/Rt builds.
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by King Symeon
PC Gamer PROTIP:
Healing Breeze is good for keeping you alive! |
That's true. It's not like they stated it's the best skill for that purpose.
Red Sonya
They rated it about what I would have rated it had I been a rater. But, GW has been goin downhill since Prophecies so it's no wonder really or a surprise that the scores went down. GW is a hasbeen and now GW2 is all the excitement.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
PC Gamer? The same people who were paid an inordinate sum by NCSoft to relentlessly praise GW through the Ultimate Guild Wars Guide and the GW2 issue?
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Sir Green Aluminum
It was an overhyped piece of small content. The only goodies were the ability to reserve names and your stuff to Guild Wars 2 and the short story. If it got above average, what more could you want?
Jecht Scye
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Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Edited for truthery.
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WinterSnowblind
I'm glad they at least acknowledged the amount of content in the game. Do you guys actually think there is too little content in the game, or are you just going with what everyone else says?
But "too difficult for casual players"? It does seem a lot of newer players have been complaining about the difficulty, but I always thought that's what Guild Wars was about. Skill. It doesn't hold your hand through out the entire game. And compared to the previous GW chapter, GW:EN was very tame.
But "too difficult for casual players"? It does seem a lot of newer players have been complaining about the difficulty, but I always thought that's what Guild Wars was about. Skill. It doesn't hold your hand through out the entire game. And compared to the previous GW chapter, GW:EN was very tame.
Longasc
GW:EN had so much potential.
It will always be remembered as "what Chapter IV could have been". If they had not decided only to release what was leftover, call it expansion and go on with GW2.
Seriously, GW:EN fails in many aspects, but the greater Tyria map and some areas (more the overland, surprisingly better than the repetitive dungeons) are really showing what could have been done.
Sigh. And now we have so much empty space around the Verdant Cascades.
It will always be remembered as "what Chapter IV could have been". If they had not decided only to release what was leftover, call it expansion and go on with GW2.
Seriously, GW:EN fails in many aspects, but the greater Tyria map and some areas (more the overland, surprisingly better than the repetitive dungeons) are really showing what could have been done.
Sigh. And now we have so much empty space around the Verdant Cascades.
Diddy bow
Seems appropriate, liked it more than nf, but it seems so rushed . Looks really nice graphicly, but there are so manay bugs . I mean the great destroyers "super skill" deosnt even work .
EPO Bot
I do think the average encounter in GW:EN is harder then most fights in the three main chapters.
On thewhole, i have nothing to specifically complain about since this expansion was everything i expected from it. Nothing more, nothing less.
On thewhole, i have nothing to specifically complain about since this expansion was everything i expected from it. Nothing more, nothing less.
TheLichMonky
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Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet
I'm kind of surprised this hasn't been posted yet (yes, I searched). To sum up, without breaking any copyright laws:
Pros: Lots of new content. Cons: Poor rewards and too difficult for the casual player Bottom Line: GW:EN doesn't live up to its expectations No. 168 Dec. 2007 Volume 14 Number 12 Remember, a 68% is "above average" on the PCG scale. It's not bad, but it ain't great either. It's not on line yet, so no need to look there...unless you really want to. |
Inde
My Games for Windows mag gave GW:EN a 6 out of 10. This mag rarely gives out below an 8. I'll sum it up:
Nov. 2007
Issue 12
Lots of grind, seems like a hasty ad for GW2, unmistakeable plea for players to forget about old game and focus on the future.
Verdict
+ New hero NPCs; interesting deviation from the usual Guild Wars structure.
- Disarmingly insubstantial; lots of recycled art; Hall of Monuments is a sick joke.
6/10 Average
Nov. 2007
Issue 12
Lots of grind, seems like a hasty ad for GW2, unmistakeable plea for players to forget about old game and focus on the future.
Verdict
+ New hero NPCs; interesting deviation from the usual Guild Wars structure.
- Disarmingly insubstantial; lots of recycled art; Hall of Monuments is a sick joke.
6/10 Average
Cataclysm
I enjoyed GW:EN! I liked the humor in it and the side quests. I liked getting to know the Norn, liked killing Charr, and finding out what happens to Gwen. I admit the storyline is very cliche. ANet should have come up with a better plot than "The world's in danger, go save it, hero!"
IMO, It wasnt as good as Proph or NF, but was better than Factions.
IMO, It wasnt as good as Proph or NF, but was better than Factions.
VitisVinifera
wow......considering how much $ NC Soft has paid in advertising, that's a bitch slap
also shows some integrity
(I see similar conspiracy threads in wine rating magazines......do the biggest advertisers get the highest ratings?)
also shows some integrity
(I see similar conspiracy threads in wine rating magazines......do the biggest advertisers get the highest ratings?)
DFrost
Huh, I have to say I disagree with both pros and cons. Aside from dungeons there isn't that much new content, the rewards are way better than the 1000xp + 100g + a token in the two previous chapters, and GWEN is certainly a lot easier than, say, the missions in Realm of Torment.
Sparda
This is so nice people complaining about GW:EN.
I love it they have the right tho.
GW:EN is in my eyes just a little fill up for the rest of the years to come till GW2.
GW:EN
* 1 not much content
* 2 HoM A joke
* 3 re used art
* 4 Grind (people seem to dig that kind of stuff) i hate it.
But i have a good thing i may be the only one but it is one ^^
* 1 The uber nice environment realy good
I love it they have the right tho.
GW:EN is in my eyes just a little fill up for the rest of the years to come till GW2.
GW:EN
* 1 not much content
* 2 HoM A joke
* 3 re used art
* 4 Grind (people seem to dig that kind of stuff) i hate it.
But i have a good thing i may be the only one but it is one ^^
* 1 The uber nice environment realy good
Big_Iron
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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
wow......considering how much $ NC Soft has paid in advertising, that's a bitch slap
also shows some integrity |
Inde
I've personally noticed that most mags like to gloss over, give high reviews to all games. Probably something about advertising, not really knowing the games, etc. It's hard to find honest reviews and that 2 mags now have blasted GW:EN does really speak something.
Hott Bill
The major letdown (about GWEN) was the lack of the Charr. Players wanted to Charr the be destroyed and Ascalon to return to it's regal status.
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by Sparda
This is so nice people complaining about GW:EN.
I love it they have the right tho. GW:EN is in my eyes just a little fill up for the rest of the years to come till GW2. GW:EN * 1 not much content * 2 HoM A joke * 3 re used art * 4 Grind (people seem to dig that kind of stuff) i hate it. But i have a good thing i may be the only one but it is one ^^ * 1 The uber nice environment realy good |
Reused art was kind of disappointing.
Grinding for everything. How does spending 12+ hours grinding the same place over and over prove that you deserve armor, or are even skilled at the game? It doesn't, it proves nothing, so why add it as a requirement for armor. This was fixed though, with the increased hero book reward.
Was a decent amount of content, no complaints from me on that.
Love dungeons, and the scenery is amazing compared to the other games. Some armor is great, the rest sort of /fail.
I'd rate it so-so. Not great, but not horrible either. Probably a 60%. Would be higher if I wasn't sooooo bored of the repetitive gameplay. Even playing different professions is the same. Same machine, just a different cog.
Kula
Also from Games for Windows:
"The problem : It's over before you know it.
I'd (liberally) estimate the total campaign content at about 25% of the typical GW game. Suddenly, that $40 price tag (just $10 cheaper than usual) doesn't look like such a bargain, does it?"
and
"...if you dig repitition, GWEN's extracurricular activities are perfect for you."
"The problem : It's over before you know it.
I'd (liberally) estimate the total campaign content at about 25% of the typical GW game. Suddenly, that $40 price tag (just $10 cheaper than usual) doesn't look like such a bargain, does it?"
and
"...if you dig repitition, GWEN's extracurricular activities are perfect for you."
ac0okiemonst3r
i really appreciate you guys talkin about the Pros and Cons. i haven gotten it yet because i didnt know of any player feed-back^^ so should i get it? not in it for armor, just in it for mini games, dungeons, etc.
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by Kula
"...if you dig repitition, GWEN's extracurricular activities are perfect for you."
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Whiskeyjack
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Originally Posted by ac0okiemonst3r
i really appreciate you guys talkin about the Pros and Cons. i haven gotten it yet because i didnt know of any player feed-back^^ so should i get it? not in it for armor, just in it for mini games, dungeons, etc.
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Jetdoc
Honestly, I think many of us bought GW:EN for the completionists in us...seeing the end of the story, making sure your skill sets were complete, etc.
I didn't have the expectation that GW:EN would be as good as any of the original three chapters, so I'm actually enjoying it so far.
I didn't have the expectation that GW:EN would be as good as any of the original three chapters, so I'm actually enjoying it so far.
Count to Potato
pc gamer can't play the game like most people do, they skim, i saw it on G4tv when they went over factions, all their review was on Shing Jea, not even getting by the early lvls
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by Count to Potato
pc gamer can't play the game like most people do, they skim, i saw it on G4tv when they went over factions, all their review was on Shing Jea, not even getting by the early lvls
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Diddy bow
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Originally Posted by Inde
I've personally noticed that most mags like to gloss over, give high reviews to all games. Probably something about advertising, not really knowing the games, etc. It's hard to find honest reviews and that 2 mags now have blasted GW:EN does really speak something.
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