Fix Legendary Defender of Ascalon!

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

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First off I'd like to say that I know this title isn't supposed to be easy, nor does it take a few hours. It could take even months. And because of the level of monsters, that's to be expected. What I'm asking here isn't to change the level of time, but more like the level of difficulty.

For instance, the max party size is Pre-Searing is 2. Two people against at least 4 level 8+ Charr at one time is hardly fair, not to mention the fact that our armor in Pre-Searing sucks (even the collector armor). And of course no one has a max/good weapon unless they have the bonus ones. My proposition? Make the max party size 4 and make one more set of Pre-Searing armor that's got more defense. Death leveling would still be necessary to get the title because eventually you will be stronger than the Charr. But until then, it's hard to struggle through low level monsters for maybe 20 experience per kill, that gets lower for each level, to get to a decent level to stand a chance against the Charr.

I just made a new mesmer in the hopes of getting this title. I had a ranger wanting it too, and got her to about level 11 before finally giving up and moving her forward into the game. The only reason I'd even make a Tyrian character now (I hate Tyria but that's another story) is for this title. And it's dumb how long it takes and how difficult it is. What does everyone else think?

Reason

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Well, you said it yourself...this title is not meant to me easy, it requires some patients, you will HAVE to team up with an ally up to lvl 12 or so and even then it can be though to solo.

Bottom line is that your not just asking them to change a title, you want them to change the entire mechanics of a game just to allow a title to be easier.

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Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

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It's fine as it is, hard, and time consuming, but surely doable.

And since a guildy solod the 3 charr bosses with a lvl 7 mesmer today I think the difficulty level is just about right

Tender Wolf

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
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It's fine as it his, hard, and time consuming, but surely doable.

And since a guildy solod the 3 charr bosses with a lvl 7 mesmer today I think the difficulty level is just about right
He did? I may have to beg him for help then. lol I'm level 9 and still get my butt pwned.

Squishy ftw

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
He did? I may have to beg him for help then. lol I'm level 9 and still get my butt pwned.
It took him like 50+ min, but yes.

and as a mesmer you can make optimal use of the environment, hide behind walls/gates/whatever as much as you can.

Tender Wolf

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
It took him like 50+ min, but yes.

and as a mesmer you can make optimal use of the environment, hide behind walls/gates/whatever as much as you can.
But there's so many of them. They just come at me from nowhere. It hurts. lol I wonder if he'd be willing to help me if I paid.

Sword

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Dont complain about a title just because you cant spend the time to earn the title.

Other people, incuding myself, have earned this title as is, and its unfair if the time we spent putting into this title is diminshed because you want an easier title.

anet will never consider changing this title, so if u want this title expect to take alot of time to earn it and quit crying

Solas

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how is this title hard? maybe a small bit early on but from14-19 isn't it mostly death leveling?

don't you duel till ye get high enough level to solo?

i'm not sayign it doesn't take time or dedication but it just takes so long, i'd be for any change for LDoA even 1xp per monster,

Squishy ftw

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
But there's so many of them. They just come at me from nowhere. It hurts. lol I wonder if he'd be willing to help me if I paid.
Learn how they patrol then
And no idea, I'll link him to this thread when he gets online, up to him then

Tender Wolf

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Originally Posted by Sword
Dont complain about a title just because you cant spend the time to earn the title.

Other people, incuding myself, have earned this title as is
It's not that I can't spend the time doing it, it's that no matter what I do those stupid Charr kill me. I've gone out with several different people and get the same result each time. And sometimes the experience doesn't even pop up when a Charr does die. How did you get it?

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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
how is this title hard? maybe a small bit early on but from14-19 isn't it mostly death leveling?

don't you duel till ye get high enough level to solo?
Well I heard from 16-19 is death leveling. I've been going out with multiple people to hunt those Charr and no matter what, they ALWAYS kill me. I don't know how people do it. Any tips? Anyone care to help? I'd be very appreciative and I'd be willing to pay.

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
Learn how they patrol then
And no idea, I'll link him to this thread when he gets online, up to him then
Cool, thanks! hehe

Tyla

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This title isnt hard - its time consuming and mainly an AFK title.
i myself havent got it,but i prefere to play than afk

Tender Wolf

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
This title isnt hard - its time consuming and mainly an AFK title.
i myself havent got it,but i prefere to play than afk
AFK title? How's that? lol And I'm not worried about the time, it just takes so much longer because no matter what I do the Charr kill me. Every single time.

Solas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
AFK title? How's that? lol And I'm not worried about the time, it just takes so much longer because no matter what I do the Charr kill me. Every single time.
afk as in death leveling, i tihnk you afk for an hour or 2(may be more) until you level char,then kill charr, for like 10xp each, then repeat. i think thats roughly it, i would like tohave ago at this but no free slots waiting for sms in online shop.

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
/notsigned

It's fine as it is, hard, and time consuming, but surely doable.

And since a guildy solod the 3 charr bosses with a lvl 7 mesmer today I think the difficulty level is just about right
I did that with my ranger ^^

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??? L??wLi????????? ???

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meh I say leave it alone..I like it as it is
*thank god i allready have this title*

Div

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Was able to solo beyond the gate with my level 9ish ranger. Was painful and long, but doable.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
He did? I may have to beg him for help then. lol I'm level 9 and still get my butt pwned.
domination and inspiration are the key, leave illusion alone.

as for your OP I am sorry but /unsigned its been done for almost 3 years now I think you can do it if you really want to.

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Onarik Amrak

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Fixing implies that something is broken.

It's not broken.

MithranArkanere

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It is. It was mean to price those who staid in pre-Searing. So those who leave presearing MUST lose the title.

A haracter that was there and gained level 20 before the update won't get the title. A newly created character can now get the title and leave.

To be fair. It MUST vanish once the character leave.

Tender Wolf

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
It is. It was mean to price those who staid in pre-Searing. So those who leave presearing MUST lose the title.

A haracter that was there and gained level 20 before the update won't get the title. A newly created character can now get the title and leave.

To be fair. It MUST vanish once the character leave.
But then you can't display it in your Hall of Monuments, or use it to get Kind of a Big Deal with other maxed titles. So what would be the point?

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If you only want it for KoaBD title then just go for Legendary Survivor, its far easier. But i agree after leaving pre it should vanish its a pre searing title. And the point is, you earned the title and you can show it off, in pre
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its cus little cry babies like u they WERE gonna change the legendary survivor title, and its cus of dedicated players who dont want theses changes that saved it....the whole idea of a title is suppose to be hard work(yes even the protector titles), but just cus u wanna bigger party size we all have to suffer YET ANOTHER nerf....nah man deal with what it already is....and as for a new armor WTF that'd beat the purpose of Post Searings Ascalon armor, my words are Deal With what you got now, or just dont deal in that area!!!

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For the original poster, no, it can't be changed now. Not after so long time and so many people investing so much playing time into that title.

In a way it's the most ridiculous title ever. You're called a "Legendary Defender of Ascalon" by getting your ass kicked one million times by stupid furrballs ten levels below you.

Meat Axe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
afk as in death leveling, i tihnk you afk for an hour or 2(may be more) until you level char,then kill charr, for like 10xp each, then repeat. i think thats roughly it, i would like tohave ago at this but no free slots waiting for sms in online shop.
Well, you've got the basic theory right, but if anyone did what you just said, they'd be wasting their time. You should be leveling the Charr until they're the same or one level higher than your character. It takes a lot longer than 2 hours (I think it's something more like 12, from what I can remember), but you do get a lot more XP.

Anyway, Tender Wolf, perhaps you should read this guide:
http://presearing.com/index.php?opti...55&topic=557.0
It's a very good, detailed guide for a mesmer to hunt Charr solo. The only thing it doesn't have is state a recommended level that a character should start trying to solo. But, generally, that's around level 12.

I highly suggest you become a member of the forums at http://www.presearing.com/
It's a large community of pre searing players. Almost all of them are very friendly people, and would be willing to help you out if you just ask. I would offer you help myself, since I have a mesmer and necro currently in pre, but they're very low level, so it won't really help. Anyway, good luck with it.

Tender Wolf

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
Anyway, Tender Wolf, perhaps you should read this guide:
http://presearing.com/index.php?opti...55&topic=557.0
It's a very good, detailed guide for a mesmer to hunt Charr solo. The only thing it doesn't have is state a recommended level that a character should start trying to solo. But, generally, that's around level 12.

I highly suggest you become a member of the forums at http://www.presearing.com/
It's a large community of pre searing players. Almost all of them are very friendly people, and would be willing to help you out if you just ask. I would offer you help myself, since I have a mesmer and necro currently in pre, but they're very low level, so it won't really help. Anyway, good luck with it.
Thanks very much for your kind and helpful response. I will certainly look into both of these.

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i am currently going for the LDoa title with my ele and find the dificulty level just fine. any charcter can level over the wall. lower levels have bout 20 lvl 5 oakheats and 12 lvl 3 grawl to kill. there is even some lvl 2 animals for the very low guys.

I do disagree with the concept of afk titles. LDoA, drunkard and to a certain extent lucky/unlucky. i just see very little point to an part of the game that physically prevents you from playing the game. i like GW and want to play it. but going for this title i keep thinking "oh cant play today again going for that bloody title".

would it upset folk if they were to just add a lvl 14 boss to the game? or even make skullreaver lvl14. he's out of the way. it would still take a long time to repeat kill him. the title would still be hard. and he obviously wouldnt even have charr kits or charr bags. so people would only ever use him for xp.

Dev121

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Idea: ADD HM TO PRE when a char reaches LVL 12, no stupidly pathetic death leveling which was unintentional but happened and meant anet didnt have to do to it.

TaCktiX

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...forcing the worst imbalance ever created. LDoA only exists in honor of the people who love Pre so much they won't leave it. Don't make it "easier," or you'd piss more people off than you could think.

Tonis

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaCktiX
...forcing the worst imbalance ever created. LDoA only exists in honor of the people who love Pre so much they won't leave it. Don't make it "easier," or you'd piss more people off than you could think.
Qft
/notsigned for above reasons + the fact that all you seem to want is an easier title.

IslandHermet

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Kinda funny, This title is "very easy to get" just like survivor nothing new and nothin Anet will do to change it

Tender Wolf

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Very easy to get? Wow, that's news to me. Charr coming at you from all directions, no energy, no heals, no help, struggling to get to a decent level at level 8 or so because the highest level besides the Charr are lvl 5's worth maybe 20 exp per kill, so you try to kill the Charr for your exp and then once you get high enough you have to death level. Yeah, very easy title...

And Legendary Survivor isn't easy to get unless you leech off someone else. I don't want this title for Kind of a Big Deal. I want it because it's the only reason I'd make a Tyrian character, as it's my least fave campaign. It would be cool to have a title like that. It would look good in the Hall of Monuments. Legendary Survivor would too but that one...I don't know how so many people get it.

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not signed... imange if u get LDoA then they make it easier...id be sooo pissed...besides its an awesome title because its hard to get...otherwise having it would be less cool.

Sir Pandra Pierva

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It's really the title showing you have way to much damn time on your hands/

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
It's really the title showing you have way to much damn time on your hands/
actually it's showing that you can leave your pc on when you are at work/school/... and you're willing to pay for electricity



To the OP, watch how they patrouille and then lure them so you can stand higher or behind obsticales. Then it can be done with a lvl 7 mesmer

IslandHermet

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Very easy to get? Wow, that's news to me. Charr coming at you from all directions, no energy, no heals, no help, struggling to get to a decent level at level 8 or so because the highest level besides the Charr are lvl 5's worth maybe 20 exp per kill, so you try to kill the Charr for your exp and then once you get high enough you have to death level. Yeah, very easy title...

And Legendary Survivor isn't easy to get unless you leech off someone else. I don't want this title for Kind of a Big Deal. I want it because it's the only reason I'd make a Tyrian character, as it's my least fave campaign. It would be cool to have a title like that. It would look good in the Hall of Monuments. Legendary Survivor would too but that one...I don't know how so many people get it.
It is very easy to get but it would seem you dont know how. Just like the LS title 1 day is all you need, from the way your posting you have no clue how easy these are to get and refuse to spend a little time to find out how they are so easy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daf
actually it's showing that you can leave your pc on when you are at work/school/... and you're willing to pay for electricity



To the OP, watch how they patrouille and then lure them so you can stand higher or behind obsticales. Then it can be done with a lvl 7 mesmer
The only change I want to LDoA is to remove the 10 minute time limit for reconnecting to the game server (this should only apply to presearing) when you lag out and this is only for the purpose of fighting global warming.This way players could switch off their modems and shut down their computers thus reducing their carbon footprints. Players would still be unable to play Guild Wars while death leveling thus it would only be slightly easier to earn the title. Otherwise aNet should rename the title "Friend of the Electric company" and possibly add a command that lets Legendary Defenders of Ascalon create a hardhat, the kind worn by linemen.

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I tried for a few weeks, got the lvl 16 and blah... The one thing that peeves me is that yea, Armor should be better, and you shouldn't have to death level. All Titles should be unlockable for one character. I don't neccessarily agree with everything you say. But they could through in a few lvl 16's or 18's as bosses. It would still take forever, through them in the corner of the farthest reaches of the map, but at least that way you could get survivor and legendary. BETTER ARMOR! HIGHER LEVEL BOSSES! Not changing too much of the game, they've added bosses places before..

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QQ about the amount of time spent. That's all this will ever be.

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Koda Kumi

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LDoA always reminded me of those Super Metroid hacks where you had to be familiar with the game's mechanics and quirks to be able to complete the game.

I hated them :P