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Cebe
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
Meh, why only fill in partial Handbooks?
As I already said, doing 6 or so quests in Hard Mode can be done really quickly. Some, such as Destruction's Depths or Warband of Brothers take a fair while sometimes (not to mention there are 2 distinct points in Destruction's Depths where GW crashes for me)... Filling in part of the handbook and handing it in is pretty quick and nets a reasonable amount of reputation for the time invested.
Guildmaster Cain
Well a big energy pool (50-60) is often enough, especially if you have a Zealous weapon too.
Ive just scrapped a min or 2 from the Nornbear quest, apparently you do not need to visit the Volfen Shrine to make him spawn. Ive run to all 3 spawn spots without going to the Shrine first and he appeared. You just need to remember where he is. Maybe you can even rush to the last spawn alone and kill him there, im dont know yet.
GaladrielMoloch
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Ive just scrapped a min or 2 from the Nornbear quest, apparently you do not need to visit the Volfen Shrine to make him spawn. Ive run to all 3 spawn spots without going to the Shrine first and he appeared. You just need to remember where he is. Maybe you can even rush to the last spawn alone and kill him there, im dont know yet.
No you cannot, have to do them in order (unless this has been changed from a few weeks ago or so). | Also to those people who are saying it is more worthwhile to do the whole book, it is possible to do 5-6 or so of the missions in HM in an hour, which maybe all the time that you have or don't want to put in the extra effort of doing ones such as DD, etc., though if you have Vanquished all areas + all dungeons in HM you should be near max titles on all 4 anyways. odly
Book question : If you are just below level 8 when you turn in your NM books does it cap your points at level 8 or does it still give you the full reward and thus put you on your way to level 9.
Guildmaster Cain
No, ive explained this above. 79.999 rep points + full Dungeon book = 119.999 points = R9
Yang Whirlwind
Thanks for that confirmation Guildmaster Cain! Thats going to be so nice - have one of each book ready for when I try to max the other 3 GWEN titles (almost have the Dwarf - snowmen ftw
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Sprites
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
Ok some more tips for people:
-You can enter any of the Hero Handbook quests from THE SCRYING POOL in HoM. Saves you some time travelling to certain places, tho it is not that far. But EotN could be THE outpost to start repeatable HHB quests in. This makes Blood washes Blood very easy. So only DD cant be done in less then 20 mins... hmm , you still need to cap the altar doing so , needs long and careful pulling of the vaettirs ...
Guildmaster Cain
Hmm maybe it is because I did it in NM, but I do not have any problems with the Vaettirs. For capping the alter, you only need to be close to the altar and ignore the Vaettirs that are out of you aggro bubble. You can hug the Left side when you enter the Vaettir area and you prob have to fight 1 or 2 Vaettirs and that is all. Continue to the Res shrine near the exit and then towards the Altar. If any Vaettirs come into your bubble, smite them with ranged attacks.
After you have summoned the bear spirit, you can continue into the next area. Take the Southern most gate (you can skip the part of getting Ursan Blessing if you already have it) and rampage your way into the camp. Make sure you kill of ALL groups in the inner part of the camp (with the monk boss). In NM I can do this in 4 mins time, have a screenshot of it.
Sheriff
In NM that area is a breeze indeed, but in HM the amount of Vaettirs is massive and they're not a piece of cake.
Hobbs
How exactly do you enter quests from the HoM? I can collect them if that's what you mean but I can't figure out how to enter the instance and that's how I interpreted your post. If you can enter the instance from HoM can you explain how please?
boxterduke
I don't think you can enter from HoM, thats what I thought when I read his post but I tried every possible option from that menu at the pool and there is no option that takes you to the mission directly. If there is a way then please enlighten me Guildmaster.
As for Blood Washes blood, in my experience its a waste of time and way too hard in HM for h/h, doable but just a waste of time. Destruction's Depth is even easier and faster than Blood Washes Blood. I do all missions except BwB and DD and get 18k in about 2 hours. The more you do it the faster it gets. 3 more books for me and I'm done and there is no way I'm doing this for my other characters, one is enough lol. Malsvir
Blood washes blood is very easy to H/H in HM when you know how to do it. Skip all the massive charr-killing by taking UB in your skillbar, then avoid fighting by entering boss area by the southern doors... Pull groups one by one, no hurry, and well... that's done, and that's fast.
I did it as UB warrior, along with heroes from Sab's build, plus Mhenlo, Lina, Zho and Cynn. Where I encountered some trouble last times I tried this is at vaettirs before entering mission... but if you pull carefully, with heroes flagged at the limit of your aggro circle, it's pretty easy to clear the area  .It's good to change the repeated quests sometimes... I'm getting bored at 120.000+ norn points aawwwww...! bifter
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Originally Posted by lungshen
Mission itself is easy but fighting through explorables to get to mission shrine just not worth of your time. You can run through and avoid most of the mobs in Jaga Moraine.
You can run through Bjora Marches from Longeye Ledge without fighting a thing. Agree though that the Vaettirs are annoying (you probably have to fight one group of 4), and the rest of the mission is a stone cold drag. Pro-kiting hard ressers, uberhealing monk boss and 5 groups in a very small fortress... ugh. Do-able with hench in HM for sure, but what a pain. Hadn't thought of trying with Ursan already on the bar though - might make it a bit more palatable.
bifter
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
The Armored Saurus only needs Barrier and Bond in Hard Mode, the rest seems like overkill. He gets the door down with plenty of time before the rangers kill him. In normal mode I found a paragon with Angelic Bond is usually enough.
I didn't bond it at all. O_o Just set both destroyers to bomb the inner gates, camped on the left side charr axe teleporter with my whole team, and b-surge / epidemic'd the left hand rangers closest to me, while the rest of my henchies spawn-camped the melee to death repeatedly. Charr allies took care of melee spawns on the other side just fine. Saurus got through first time with no fuss and most of its health intact.
Sheriff
I might fill another book again so, out of curiosity, what does everyone believe to be the best mix to kill balanced Charr parties in HM?
I hated Warband of Brothers HM due to a couple of groups on lvl 2 composed of a rezbot (Dominator), 2 healers (Prophets) and a few damage dealers (Flameshielders & Seekers). I am thinking Winter probably won't be enough here.
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Sheriff
I might fill another book again so, out of curiosity, what does everyone believe to be the best mix to kill balanced Charr parties in HM?
I hated Warband of Brothers HM due to a couple of groups on lvl 2 composed of a rezbot (Dominator), 2 healers (Prophets) and a few damage dealers (Flameshielders & Seekers). I am thinking Winter probably won't be enough here. The party I'm using for every HM mission consists of the three Necro's from Sab's (thanks again mate) Hero Build, me as a BHA Ranger with Throw Dirt, Epidemic, Pain Inverter and Ebon Battle Standard of Courage, and the Henchies Herta, Eve, Cynn and Lina. No need to bring Frozen Soil (I guess you meant this skill instead of Winter, to prevent rezzing). Once the Minion Master has collected some corpses it'll be easy enough. Pain Inverter on the Flameshielders and living through their Firestorm will instakill them. Shutting down their monks with BHA and blinding their Warriors, spreading it with Epidemic makes it doable. Just be sure never to engage two mobs at the same time, and never fight when there is another patrol nearby, otherwise their monks will just join the fight... I've never used any melee fighters in my party, the minions make excellent cannon fodder anyways, so I can focus on dealing damage from afar. And for some reason the Dominators didn't use their rezz skill that often, but maybe I'm lucky
Sheriff
Yes I did mean Frozen Soil
I wanted to do this with a W, so maybe I'll go Cripslash/Epidemic myself and bring Zho as the BHA interrupter Sab's hero builds would be a standard of course  Although I am thinking in this zone an A/P Helmos spear spiker would probably be more useful than the SS hero.
Longasc
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Originally Posted by Sheriff
I might fill another book again so, out of curiosity, what does everyone believe to be the best mix to kill balanced Charr parties in HM?
I hated Warband of Brothers HM due to a couple of groups on lvl 2 composed of a rezbot (Dominator), 2 healers (Prophets) and a few damage dealers (Flameshielders & Seekers). I am thinking Winter probably won't be enough here. Damn hard, the Warband of Brothers in HM. And long. But the solution is a SS Necro. SS+Enfeebling Blood + Mark of Pain. They do not have hex removal! So park your party behind the pillars and walls, tank them at a choke point and let SS+maybe MoP make short work of them, blind and enfeeble the targets. Key is shutting down the Warriors and eliminating the Rezzmer Dominators quickly. The Fire elementalists are dangerous, but use the WARD VS CHARR (aka Vanguard Ward of Courage) or have a SY spammer and they are not that dangerous to have target priority. Basically, have a Curse Necro, a MM Necro, ideally a Paragon and... 1.) Shutdown the Warriors 2.) Kill the Rezzmers 3.) Exploit Terrain for SS orgies on Charr Hunters e.g..
greywolf31
Regarding Sab's Heroes...
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Quote: Sabs heros modified for that area.
I could not find anything dealing with modifications to Sab's heroes specifically for EotN.
I did find this... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...hlight=Sab%27s Is there another thread on this? Maybe a more concise one. LMK and THX I suppose you can go both ways with the "Farming", books or hunting, it breaks it up so it does not get tedious. Not to mention you'll get more drops hunting than if you do the book-way. =) Anduin
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Originally Posted by Washi
Snowmen in hard mode is about 2000-2500 in 15 minutes but thats only for dwarf.
I've gotten 1000 a couple times, so you might want to lower your numbers.
I've had Frostie's death not count, robbing me of the points. Plus, it is all dependant on random bonuses. Jagged
Someone also posted that it can be buggy if you kill them to fast (mass AOE) you don't get all the points.
Zapper901
I'm a little confused. I took a 3 month break from GW and only came back a few weeks ago. How do you get Ursan/Volfen blessing on your bar without going to the shrine? Also what does h/h stand for?
arsie
You gotta do the Hogni Truthseeker quests to get the blessings permenantly.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hogni_Truthseeker h/h = heros and henchmen stanza
To save time can you take multiple books and repeat mission then change build/team and move on to another mission and repeat etc then hand in all books at once?
ekamdu
NORN: VARAJER FALLS in HM ursanway...
can get up to 10k in 40 minutes... i maxed it within a week with my guild ^_^
Esan
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Originally Posted by stanza
To save time can you take multiple books and repeat mission then change build/team and move on to another mission and repeat etc then hand in all books at once?
Yes, but (a) remember to have the book without the entry FIRST in the inventory (left to right, top to bottom), and (b) keep a straitjacket team on call because the sheer monotony of doing a quest over and over again will drive you a bit batty.
miprat
How do you enter these quests from scrying pool?
Avatar Exico
6000pts an hour eh it good for some rep profession. In the Norn Farm you get 6k-15k rep points a run. This 3000pts is good for Vanguard. He has a Point, It adds up so it good and fast.
Jagged
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Originally Posted by miprat
How do you enter these quests from scrying pool?
You can't. You pick them up there. Just saves the trip to the towns/questgivers.
distilledwill
Ive always found A Gate Too Far stupidly easy in hard mode, so id probably do that one over GOLEM or Against the charr. Then again, Id probably just do all of them for a little bit more whack. its like an extra 2000ish points for one more quest, right? why not?
Avatar Exico
Ok after figuring out this. My Calculations is this - HM Book 3k Rep Points, doing the main Rep Faction(like Norn, Asuran, Vanguard, Dwarf) then do A Time For Heros(Runnerable). If you have done beat the game, get the main Quests. 4Main+3Main rep you want Faction for Then A Time for Heros = 8 Done. But do the method rofly 27 times that 80k Rep Points and total of 54runs = 160k. Though 27 times you will make 16.2k X2 = 32.4k money made. Using the Method make 129.6k for maxing out all Rep Factions. Wondering if this would help.
greywolf31
Think of the Scrying Pool as your own personal "Quest Giver".
That way when you highlight the quest in the log your compass will show the way to go. =) X Black Chaos X
where do you get the skills for specifc title tracks at? such as norn/vanguard/etc...
mcsumo
They all come from different quests, so basically play through the story and look out for people with quest markers to pick up side quests.
A lot of the Asura skills come from that facet/cipher quest chain from Kerssh in Tarnished Haven. The rest? come from Polymock, so frustrating times there for you. Vanguard skill quests can mostly be found in EotN itself or outside Longeye's I believe. Norn all over the place, start with tournament in Gunnar's, then you have some quests from Sif and Olaf (or daughter) then Hogni Truthseeker. Dwarven skill quests are again all over the place......hold on...... http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...vE-only_skills here's a link to wiki where you can click the skills you want to check out. Sunyavadin
Right now I've been working on timing missions and working out average rep/minute for NM handbooks, with HM ones still underway. So far for NM I have the following average results, based on completion of the fastest missions:
Originally Posted by Impoc
Pages Time Rep/minute 8 22:00 91 (5460/hour) 9 33:30 89 (5340/hour) 10 46:30 86 (5160/hour) 11 1:00:30 99 (5940/hour) 12 1:17:00 104 (6240/hour) 13 1:38:00 102 (6120/hour) 14 2:01:00 99 (5940/hour) 15 2:24:00 104 (6240/hour) 16 2:50:00 118 (7080/hour) HM results should follow once I get good averages from a few guildies, but should yield similar trends in results. (Anyway, this was mainly in response to the claim that you could get 4000/hour hunting monsters and would therefore earn more points that way) Quote: you could probably get 6000 in an hour and a half, making it about 9000 every 2 hours
JoeKnowMo
Doing all 16 missions in HM is the fastest way to max rep except for Norn. You also get more money by doing so.
Get a hold of 2 HM books. Do mission, then swap books and repeat the mission with the same build or tweak it if it didn't work as well as you'd have liked. Gets boring but makes things go faster. Sunyavadin
Absolutely correct, though if you're going for the mastery of the north title, you'll want to stick one HM Dungeon Guide in there as well. A full one of those is a LOT of rep.
High Moral
Edit: okey.. i change my question..
I have for example completed alot of the quests WITHOUT having the book, because I didnt know about it.. If I get the book now will the pages be empty? And I have to do all the missions again? I have done most of them but without the book.. =( /HM
mcsumo
No. If you take your book to one of the rep guys, they will fill in the missing pages for you at a cost of 100g per page.
They will also suggest you should keep your books with you when you do EotN stuff in future............ good advice gerg-nad
Sorry I have to vent a little, but I really dispise all this reputation point farming. My number one complaint is its for ONE TOON. I play 8 toons regulary and like diversity which keeps the game fresh. This grinding (doing the same thing over and over) on the same character is so demotivating. In addition most, but not all, are doing these with henches and heros, so in addition to the grind it is solitary confinement.
Is there a way I can just buy the points? I would pay a healthy price just to buy my toons up in Reputation points and not spend my time grinding on one toon. |
