Difference between districts

Ren Wuying

Ren Wuying

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Finland

Weapons Of Death [Fin]

R/

Hello

I am from finland and i play mostly in european/english districts. I also like to play in german districts because i know a little german.

I have to say that people are much more laid back in european than in american districts. Every time i go to american district people are very wound up and nervous, and also say something offensive very easily. I end up leaving back home very soon. What's up with you people over there, you have some real troubles.

German players are very organized and fun to play with, though i don't understand all they are saying. In european district you see lots of newbie players and they don't get insulted immediately (like they seem every time in america).

I've tried also French and Italian districts but i can't say nothing about them yet. What kind of experiences you have?

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I am surprised about your experiences in the German district. I thought it is worse than the Euro English districts.


BTW: Half of the thread has already been deleted, and I doubt much else than "Americans are bad", "... are even worse" and "no, ... are great" is going to come.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Aslong as people stay in their own districts it's fine, if someone starts speaking German in an American District they get shot down in a flamewar, with all the right to.

Jaghar Tharn

Jaghar Tharn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

home

dgs - Direcção Geral de Segurança

R/E

yeahh ^^


ghetto mentality ftw -.-

one thing is for sure, American dis lagg toooo dahmm much... what would we expect... they're american

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren Wuying
German players are very organized and fun to play with, though i don't understand all they are saying.
Funny this...
I'm English, but know enough German to get me by in a PuG...
And not once have I failed with a German PuG.

Dfx Gladiator

Dfx Gladiator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Portugal - Porto

W/

I like to hang out in international, you find everything, and there is little lag for those with connection problems.

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

i play in the international districts to become more fluent in spanish...
spanish I ftw... O.o?

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

I played with a few English speaking Germans once, they were pretty organised.

Even though I can speak French reasonably well, I don't go to their districts cause I just plain don't get the French internet slang and contractions.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Fire extinguishers and fire blankets for everyone. Line up to the left, one per person, while supplies last.

Quote:
Aslong as people stay in their own districts it's fine, if someone starts speaking German in an American District they get shot down in a flamewar, with all the right to.
lolz nubs shuld spek teh english

Taki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

N/Me

This thread is full of potential.

I usually played in Int'l but the american district 'experience' ou described is similar to most other online games I've tried. Late at night seems to be the best time as you tend to find an older and slightly more mature playerbase.

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Funny this...
I'm English, but know enough German to get me by in a PuG...
And not once have I failed with a German PuG.
I've also had good experiences with German PuGs. I'd usually end up in one because there weren't enough people in the English district for a mission, but I can say that the success rate was certainly higher than the average English PuG.

Since the latest district changes I haven't done much pugging, nor have I spent much time in American districts. I have seen a few rude/aggressive characters over there, but I think these types of people are everywhere.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

District same as our country...if you don't like it GTFO and save me some tax $$$ to support your arse ...oh and we celebrate Christmas, Thanksgiving, and several other holidays and if you don't like that or don't want to say "under God" in the pledge then you can stay where you are and don't come here too...sry had to rant even though this is off topic but for real, "every time I pet your dog he bites me" guess what STOP PETTING THE DOG!!

Big_Daddy

Big_Daddy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Big Daddy Experience [BigD]

N/Mo

Well, I live in America (the Continent) and I speak spanish, so why should I leave the American Districts for not speaking english in them? (as some people have suggested in those districts). I mean, english is not the only language spoken in America (the Continent).

I think people should be more tolerant and respect other cultures, and if you do not understand what it is being sad on the ALL CHAT, then just let it go.

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

I usually avoid Euro districts because of past experiences in other games (as well as real life). I find that most Europeans (not all) already have preconceived notions of Americans as being stupid, rude, loud, aggressive cowboys, and since they are so confident in their assessment they are quite willing to be rude (how's that for inconsistent), condescending, and dismissive to me once they find out I am a "Yank."

Of course, there are always exceptions and I really don't like generalizations, but in my experience this one holds true 75% of the time.

Since I don't feel the need to relive past experiences, I avoid Euro districts like the plague and stick to comfortable chaos of the American districts.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

My friend from Sweden always told me

Europe is laid back people work on average less and take longer vacations and enjoy life a little more.

America is high strung work too many hours and take too little vacations. The high stress rubs off on everyone

Oh and more importantly !!!!!!!!!!!!!

American make “Canoe” Beer (Because it is so F^&*^*& close to water)

Europeans make great Beer

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

American here. While I don't think I've had enough experience with the other districts to determine the difference, I know that I've never whiped in a non-American FoW PUG when my friends needed their armor. Not to mention I haven't been successful with a single American pug...

These days, though, you'll see me in the Int. dists. I like the solitude, and I'm not the only one.

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Heh speaking of those going from one district to another, anyone remember the influx of korean players for what ever reason in D2 *I think it was that* that decided to join US west district?

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
Oh and more importantly !!!!!!!!!!!!!

American make “Canoe” Beer (Because it is so F^&*^*& close to water)

Europeans make great Beer
You obviously have little experience with beer. Not all American beer is Keystone Light or Budweiser. There are plenty of amazing microbrews out there - you just need to go to a local pub or liquor store to find them.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Daddy
I think people should be more tolerant and respect other cultures, and if you do not understand what it is being sad on the ALL CHAT, then just let it go.
Unless I'm sorely mistaken, the non-American GW population is, on average, considerably older than the American GW population.

It's not terribly surprising that you observe intolerance, lack of respect, language, childishness, etc. given the population that lives in the ADs.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

i'd agree with the OP's germans are organised statement.

i've found myself in german districts for most factions missions (i don't speak german but almost every PuG has an english speaking german in it for stuff i need to hear xD) as the euro PuG's, particuarly in my experience in factions, tend to be useless and its fun to party with people instead of AI every now and then.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnus_1
You obviously have little experience with beer. Not all American beer is Keystone Light or Budweiser. There are plenty of amazing microbrews out there - you just need to go to a local pub or liquor store to find them.
There are few out there but this what my friend from Sweden said to me. This is the same guy that went speechless when we went to a bar with a 5 dollar cover charge for all you can drink. After he promptly paid he turned to me and said if this happened in my country people would die. They would drink themselves to death

P.S. I lost touch with this friend and have tried many times to track him down. If anyone is in Kalix Sweden and is reading this and please pm me I can not read the Swedish Phone Book

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

My only experiences have shown that brits are mean. T_T 50/50 means I get one you get one! Not you get three I get none! o teh dramaz

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

i stay in international distrits.

Karyuu

Karyuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Kahlifownia

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

W/Rt

If you want to be completely alone, it's European - Russian all the way :P

Athena Starblaze

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Ladies of the Knight

Mo/

I'm Australian and I find that the Euro districts have gotten very bare of late and laggy, so I've actually been playing when I do play anymore, (long story that) on the American districts because they seem to have less lag than the Euro districts and that's where you find people to actually play with.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

Personally, I play for enjoyment rather than gain. I steadily get things, but one aspect I love about the game is the constant arguments.

Some people may get annoyed when you die and someone says "YEAH, YOU TAKE IT LIKE YOU DO EVERY NIGHT WITH YOUR DAD!', but personally, I find it to be a laughable moment because on the bright side, you know you're better, and they're just jealous.

That's my two cents.

Monique

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Russian servers are great. Nobody uses them (there's like 10 people in Kamadan Russian 1 AT MAX).

jcrayon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Legion of WolfSong

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Athena Starblaze
I'm Australian and I find that the Euro districts have gotten very bare of late and laggy, so I've actually been playing when I do play anymore, (long story that) on the American districts because they seem to have less lag than the Euro districts and that's where you find people to actually play with.
As another Aussie I agree - the ping to US servers is better than the EURO servers because of the direct connections between Australia and USA West Coast.

Also, at e.g. 8pm East Coast Australia time it is something like 5am in USA so the servers aren't under load. This is great if you are playing with guildies but can make it harder to build a pug because there are a lot fewer people.

-JC

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren Wuying
Every time i go to american district people are very wound up and nervous, and also say something offensive very easily.
Dont get offended by what people say over the internet please. It is the internet. I really hate when people say "omg im offended, that guy just called me a bad name on this game" Seriously, go cry. This thread is full of lose.

on a positive note, americans are mean, but thats only because they are young and their parents are very bad.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Athena Starblaze
I'm Australian and I find that the Euro districts have gotten very bare of late and laggy, so I've actually been playing when I do play anymore, (long story that) on the American districts because they seem to have less lag than the Euro districts and that's where you find people to actually play with.
Australian primetime occurs right as the european kiddies are getting out of school which generally makes it the wrong place to be. I'll take playing with the US nightowls any day (even if they're loud cowboys ).

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I would have to agree with the whole "Germans are organized" statement as well. One time me and a guildie were messing around in TA trying random builds and it was just him and me so we would get two more random people. We ended up getting these two other guildies who were doing the same thing we were. We were actually running a suicide necro build (on purpose, we got VERY bored. it was a long time ago and I'd appreciate it if I didn't get flamed for this) and these other guys (who were german as I found out later) invited us to their TS server and whatnot. We became friend and as I started hanging out with them, I could tell they were very organized and efficient. I even notice in other games, German guilds do pretty well.

And yea, hostile arguements get started quite often in the American districts. But if you find an American guild, you can see that there are cool-headed, mature Americans out there. Just don't let what they ("they" being the people who talk in local chat) say bug you, 9/10 times they are in their early teens and just starting to get hormonal.

Also, I should hang out more often in the European districts and see if I can pick up some German and French, lol.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

One thing that is very common in German districts is that you get invited to a VoIP server, TS or Ventrilo.

Regardless of the difficulty of the task ahead or if you are a complete stranger or not. I do *not* like TS at all, outside of GvG or HA I personally do not deem it necessary to wear a headset, and I do not want to get too personal with my PUG, but I rarely PUG anyways.


I personally always am in the Italian district, few players and little lag. And I speak a little bit Italian, being a German myself, I consider visiting Russian districts only for the purpose of invasion.


The "Germans are organized" thing, is that not a stereotype dating back to pre-WWI??? Have you not met a german partyleader build-Nazi yet??? I am a bit sceptical, I also found many americans to be more laid back somehow. Sometimes I also have the impression as long as my german trade partners think I am a foreigner talking english, they do babble less BS and are more polite.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

French: Gah.. I remember the slow times of the day where people from the French district would come to Eng to find a pug and couldn't even speak a word english. If you would get two they would speak French in team chat only to be followed by "I have no idea what you're on about, but you're going the wrong way".

German: I've used german districts myself in slow times in English districts, before we start I tell them my german isn't very good and if they mind if I reply in English. I've gone through the last few missions in Factions with germans as my guild wasn't there yet and English districts seemed deserted too.

Euro Eng v.s. AM: The avarage age of all chat users seems a lot lower in AM, during Halloween I spend time in both of these two and the American districs was clearly worse. Other then going there during one event and seeing one district I've no experience in the American districts, so can't really judge.

When I'm playing I tend to be in International districts.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

With all-chat off they are all the same.

I usually just stay in int districts and go to us or europe-english to buy/sell stuff.

Surena

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
The "Germans are organized" thing, is that not a stereotype dating back to pre-WWI??? Have you not met a german partyleader build-Nazi yet??? I am a bit sceptical, I also found many americans to be more laid back somehow.
It's no stereotype. We ARE much more organized. Generally you're better off with German PUGs than with those in the English districts. The strict TS/Vent thing isn't exactly my piece of cake either but they want success as much as you want it, probably more than anyone else so it might give you the impression of them being less laid back.

Not a bad trait imo unless you like to fail.

Quote:
Sometimes I also have the impression as long as my german trade partners think I am a foreigner talking english, they do babble less BS and are more polite.
We love exploiting zhe Auslaenders. Other than that we have to bear with Nazi comments all the time. It's of course the only thing people can throw at us because they are failures.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I am German myself... and found the opposite to be true. But maybe it has gotten better over the years. Or maybe just the Germans that are willing to work with non-native speakers are better qualified to succeed in PUGs. Germans being called organized people and stuff like that makes me wonder how unorganized others must be to make such a statement!

For trade I usually go to the English districts.
It might sound mean, but especially Americans like to pay 100+x ectos for every kind of crap, paying less seems to diminish the value of the item for them.

People do not recognize me as German and do not bother me with Nazi comparisons and jokes only Germans really care about. And even if they know my nationality, it just does not happen to me.


I think the Italian, Russian, Polish and Spanish Districts can also be recommend. They allow for lag-free grouping and shopping. OK - this was quite nasty. :>

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Hmm, I play and trade in all Districts (American International and Europen). What I do notice is that some Americans really do end up flaming and cursing like mad at the slightest provocation. Although to say I have never had a bad trading partner anywhere becaus eI am polite and dont insult people. If someone would do that to me, then I would refuse trade (Buy OR sell) anyways.

I know from personal experience (been to the US a few times and am in a mostly US/Canadian guild) that most Americans are frinedly and no different than any other people... but there are enough idiots who think that because they interpret part of the American constitution in a specific way that it is their "god" born right to insult and abuse others. Those are more often the loudest and most prominent ones who drag the rest down.
The other thing which puts the US down is the current political leadership. People representign their country either put a good light or a bad light on their country as a whole for many people depending on how things are managed.

Well, thats enough bad/good things about the US. If anyone is insulted by the things I typed, then im sorry. It wasnt meant to be insulting. Just explaining the general Europen view of current US from a neutral standpoint (ie I personally dont care for some of the views)... And now for something completely different (quote for all you Python fans out there ).

International districts are too empty for me most of the time to be of any use (except for Vizunah square or Unwalking Waters missions).

European districts seem to be less laggy for some reasons (for me obviously, but also for my guildys from America from what they say) to the extent that the complete guidl was Euro server based back when you couldnt move freely between the districts. There are noticably less flaimbait and insults flying over the local chat lines, and if someone does start crap I have often seen half a district type gtfo or stfu to the starters. lol

As to missions, I havent failed more than once with a German PUG. If we do fail, then most of the players stay in the group and work on addapting to the sittuation before retrying and succeding, insted of shouting insults and ragequitting like I have experienced in enough US/English PUGs. They just seem to be more laid back and relaxed to me.

Metalmaster

Metalmaster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guardians of the Stars

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karyuu
If you want to be completely alone, it's European - Russian all the way :P
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monique
The Russian servers are great. Nobody uses them (there's like 10 people in Kamadan Russian 1 AT MAX).
We don't want u, go away, please. hm, maybe i should start to use russian districts instead of english?

Yarghetaus

Yarghetaus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Clan Acciaio [AcO]

Italian district are kind of - well, dead land. It' very difficult to find a decent PUG. I tend to stay in English ones the 90% of time, and I agree with the curent opinion about German districts.

I found out that most German players are prepared and skilled enough for the task they're for. Always gave me an idea of "professionalism" :P

Too bad I don't understand a word in German -.-

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yarghetaus
Too bad I don't understand a word in German -.-
Dont worry about that. English is a compulsory language class here. Every german (at least the ones old/young enough to play GW) understand English. A few arent confident enough to answer back, but most will be happy to chat in english to you (probably german between each other, but thats another thing and probably wont have an effect on the mission).