Why are you pumped for GW2?

Mostly, I'm looking forward to starting a game from scratch again. Most of the best times I've had with GW were in the early days of Prophecies when it took a while to do things and every drop was looked upon as a possible upgrade.
Nowadays, between the way the game has been dumbed down, and the amount of "stuff" I have, if I start a new character (or campaign/expansion), it only takes about 2 days to get to lvl20 with full max weapons and armor.
Guild Wars 2 is a likely candidate to start "fresh", but I'm already on the lookout for something new to play. (and no, I don't want to play World of Cartooncraft.)

but remember, we only got henchies at release after beta players complained about lack of party options and the difficulty of making a full party anytime...

so yeah, solo'ing isn't an issue more than a symptom of lack of players

No, soloing's generally a player choice, but that doesn't really have anything to do with my concerns. I'd rather H/H than PUG, but just playing through the game with my character sounds rather boring. I like party management. Just playing through the game by myself also implies that with any other class I play the experience is going to be similar, since every class must be capable of filling all the roles necessary to be able to solo through the game.

But honestly, that's not even my big issue. The big one is that they're taking this game from the realm of action RPG's with persistent lobbies to full scale persistent MMO's. Instancing brought me to the game to begin with, persistence is very likely to drive me away.

I agree with you on pretty much all of that...

Anyway, this time next year we'll have betas in full swing (baring no slip ups from ANet/NCSoft), so we'll see then

Im looking forward to it, not super pumped for it or anything. Im just hoping my crappy comp can handle it.

It's too early to judge, I agree. I just wish what we were hearing out of the devs was more encouraging is all. I'd like to be excited about GW2, after all.

Oh, I'm also looking forward to tearin' shit up as a Charr.

I find it pretty encouraging myself. However, I totally understand your concern. The instancing was what made a lot of the quests in GW1 (although most were relatively pointless) to be enjoyingly immersive. When you're in a persistant world, yes it's cool to run into people and all, but it really narrows down your creativity in terms of quests.

Not pumped at all. There will be better games for sure, maybe WoW's cost will get lower. I think I'm more pumped about Ragnarok Online 2 and I stopped thinking about it half year ago. So... Figure out by yourself how not pumped I am.

Well, I've been told we're going to get more info soon... (that soon wasn't a date or time, just a "soon")

Yeah, it basically makes it a fundamentally different kind of game, and that's not a kind of game I generally play. So while, from my perspective, GW1 was a good game in some part because of instancing, GW2 is going to have to be a good game in spite of persistence.

Oh goodie! Who told you? Source!

Gotta agree with the above though. GW2 will very likely turn out to be a good game. But it will most likely be a good game for entirely different reasons than what made GW1 a good game.

Internal press info

and theres more press stuff coming, I'll post what i can when i can, but inde will probably get what I get and have it posted up on the front page anyway

From skimming this topic I saw two things: Level cap removed, and the entire game is supposed to be solo-able.

Why are they trying to make GW2 a bad hybrid of WoW and Maple Story?!

This is the reason why :

"There will be changes to instancing system used. Persistent areas, similar to those traditionally used in other online multiplayer games, will be introduced to Guild Wars which may allow players to meet and interact while exploring. "

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/GW2#Persistence

id love to be traveling somewhere and need help killing a boss and find someone with the exact same problem. we kill the boss...N *add to friends*

If I had a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of ONE CENT for everytime I read, seen, heard this phrase then I'd still be the richest man in the world 100 times over.

On that note, I can't wait for GW2 (I wish it was out tomorrow), hopefully Anet doesn't come out with a superstar game and slowly screw it up.

The flip side of course being the times you'll end up competing for the kill. And woe unto you if your quest mob happens to possess a rare drop, as he will most certainly be camped day and night.

We had split into two. One was actually 50 and the other 70 or so.

The method of having new content via chapters as being optional was actually sound. The problem was that they made them too separate. Although you could move characters around continents there didn't seem to be any interaction. It was like having lots of pieces of something rather than one overall whole. I think they realised they couldn't integrate the chapters properly to make it interesting enough not long after Nightfall came out.

There's also the fact that the game itself didn't allow them to do various things that GW2 should hopefully cover.

ANet need to learn from their mistakes and try to create a story that keeps on going. The problem so far with Guild Wars was that once you'd finished the storyline as shaped by quests or missions that "was it". Sure you could do other quests & elite missions, do everything in Hard Mode, etc, but the story stopped dead.

They need to change this to make sure that the story is on-going. Some of the aspects about GW2 sound exciting - the idea of worlds fighting each other to secure supply lines, take castles, etc is great provided they don't have the same scenario repeated over-and-over again! There needs to be actual victories, rather than just some groups "winning" on a map but then finding overall that map was lost. How is it credible for one team to take a castle and then found out it was kept?!

Obviously the PvE needs to be carefully structured too. Not just silly little repeatable quests about protecting people building bridges, serious stuff that takes time. If we need to pay for expansions that keep this ticking over, no problem. But keep the story and experience going rather than produce a single block of material and hope that people will be kept busy until something else comes out. No more "the End" in terms of the story - well as far as is possible anyway.

I agree with you there. I won't pre-order automatically - there'll have to be a good reason for that. Otherwise I'll wait until reviews from Gamespot and the rest come out.

Guess which one will happen more often.

Ultimately, I've never understood how it's to anyone's advantage to have their experience in a game dictated by strangers, and that's what persistence really results in.

Possibly, but from experience with that 'other game' the only truly decent rare items drop in the instances, so not really that different from Guild Wars in that respect. As Arenanet have already said that GW2 will be a mixture of persistent and instanced play there's no real reason to worry about camping for rare items, in my opinion. Quest objective camping would be more of an issue I'd think.

I'm not exactly pumped for GW2, but I am looking forward to it. Personally I like the mix of persistent & instanced play. I enjoy coming across people who are perhaps struggling with something and just giving them a hand if they need it, even if it's just a heal. If they've already hit their foe the drop will be theirs until it becomes unassigned or disappears, so kill stealing shouldn't be an issue (hopefully).

Sounds a lot like that "other game" a lot of people are drawing comparisons to.

Primeval Armor ready for kicking some charr bootay!

when people say world pvp, does this means you make a pvp char and then theres like a whole place you can run about and attack who ever you want or what?

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Considering that they stated that there won't be PvE and PvP specific characters I'm assuming this will be either free-for-all, or designated to specific areas/servers.

pvp of any sort will ONLY happen in the mists... no RP'ing in the real world

i'm not excited...
doubt that ill be playing still

Let's face it -- there's only so much fun you can sqeeze out of one game, and I've been in this since open beta.

I am enjoying doing some PVE with my seven year old grandson, and he's starting to get pretty good at it.

No not really.

It'll only be a week or so before all the carebears cry for equipment that scale with their levels,and Guild Wars 2 will become another generic MMO.

hi

i have to run but will try for the references later.

mists is basically free for all run what you brung type pvp.

formal PVP is separate from the mists and whatever character you are using is maxed for the duration of your pvp returning to its PVE normal state when you return to PVE

PVE persistant non agro cooperative area which is persistant with hourly/daily/weekly events/things happening and instanced missions/quests/dungeons/etc

not quite buddy, the mists is the new battle isle, especially as the battle isle is now under water according to the PC GAmer history lesson