More contests are good! And fun!
Don't whine and complain, if you don't like it, just pass on it, there will be something else you like in the future
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Shakkara
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BenjZee

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Big_Iron
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					Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
					
				 
				 Stick figures are more than fine.  
			
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Smile Like Umean It
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					Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
					
				 
				And guys, while a nicely drawn graphic is appreciated, the real point is to get your ideas across so that the artists can take it from there. Stick figures are more than fine.  | 
	
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lakatz
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					Originally Posted by SmithyBen
					
				 
				Perhaps a [edited out]? 
			
		....................................lol no offence to [edited out] but wouldnt that be creepy, still a great idea. Will have a whole town of [edited out] running around. A [edited out] hat would also rule. OMG I CANT ENTER but someone has got to send in an entrance for [edited out]!! [edited out]  !!!C'MON PEOPLE [edited out] FTW!!!! enter the idea please. i dont care if i dont get recognition. this idea has got to happen  | 
	
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Darksun
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					Originally Posted by A11Eur0
					
				 
				artists should boycott these "contests" to make the developers pay real illustrators who make a living at this what they're worth, instead of seeking out freebies from hobbyists. 
			
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Kha
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					Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
					
				 
				but if you really think that they are doing this to save any money, then dont enter and save them even more money by not haveing to judge your pic  
			
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BenjZee
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					Originally Posted by lakatz
					
				 
				You're coming up with some good ideas. Not that I'm keen on encouraging the competition, but you should really pull out your stick figure drawing kit and get these ideas down and send them in yourself. 
			
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 which i think are great. im crap at drawing but they look funny. especially with bad colouring. BTW i deleted my ideas from earlier in the post because its good if people came uip with there own ideas and not copy mine. 
 I hope you like my submission ive just sent. The look on your faces will be priceless when you see it. I also made loads of other things. Shame its one entry per person. Ill just have to upload the rest on the forum of where people usually post after a contest has finished
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drago34
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					Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
					
				 
				One of the artists predicted someone would say this. 
			
		This is not an evil ploy to exploit the masses to get "free art." This contest is taking a LOT of machinations on our part to fit it into the artists schedule. In truth, we already have a Grenth hat designed and ready to go. But in order to offer this opportunity, because we thought it would be cool and inclusive (and because several players had suggested it) the art team is willing to look over probably hundreds of entries and use one entered by a player, rather than the already-completed, already "paid for" art. It is far, far more time-consuming, difficult, and expensive--in time and in actual dollars--for us to offer this contest than to simply do it ourselves. Your post is truly unfair.  | 
	
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Nian
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					Originally Posted by A11Eur0
					
				 
				Mmmmhmmm...anyone else want to kiss Anet's tailside? 
			
		Sorry, I just don't agree with it. I've seen way too many companies skip good talent(not my own, I have no talent in this field) just to save a dime and go with some undercharging twit just doing it for fun, and end up getting garbage material way too late for them to fix their goof. Sure, I don't have to do it. I won't do it. I wouldn't do it if I had the talent. If someone else wants to do it for free, that's fine...but I feel that anyone with any talent shouldn't spend one minute on free work for any profitable business, whether it'll be directly used to generate profit or not. To do so would be to disenfranchise those who do this kind of work for a living. Just because they pay an art staff, doesn't mean anything. Putting ideas down on paper out of thin air is different from taking that original idea and putting it into tangible code for a game. I'll stand by my belief though that this miniscule payment of bits and bytes on a computer server that will likely be gone forever in a few years for original work is just a bit too hard to swallow. Jaded, maybe. Ignorant...nah. That title is reserved for the blind fanbois I see on this site bending over to kiss the feet of Gaile Gray every chance they get...sorry guys, but Gaile is merely being paid to keep you guys happy with the "personal attention" you're getting from Anet staff. It's called PR. They get paid to pour honey into your ear while the company is removing cash from your pocket. I'll pose a question to you guys: How often does Anet do something for their playerbase like this without expecting anything in return? Sure they're a business, businesses make money. But saying this then saying that they don't mean to swindle artists out of their intellectual property is hypocrisy. Ok, maybe that was a little unfair and unbalanced...but either they're a business and are in it merely to make money, or they give free stuff away to the player base. Which is it? Surely not the latter. the asura, destroyer, ceratadon(don't tell me that free online magazine didn't pay Anet for the ability to give away a mini in-game, which in turn netted them thousands and thousands of new potential readers in under a week), all the other mini giveaways all required something of yours to obtain in return. I don't expect free stuff, but don't expect me to give something worth much more than a mini asura in an online fantasy game for free that can directly be used to create a feature in said profitable game. They're just playing the kiddies who really don't see the idea of intellectual property as a tangible thing that can be potentially profitable. They offer up something that people go ga-ga for in the game, and merely require a submission of VALUABLE original idea and intellectual property, of course signing over full rights to said material. If they truly were an evil company, they could use that specific style (assuming it's not stick-art) to claim right to any other "derivative work" that artist does that resembles the work done for this company and now owned by this company unequivocably in full according to the contract one agrees to when a submission is made. I feel that response about even stick-art being acceptable is merely a knee-jerk response from the PR crew to discredit my opinion. Not specifically MY opinion...I'm not paranoid...but the opinion of any naysayer who may have the brains to point out something like this. She even said they thought this concern would be brought up...why would they expect this concern if it wasn't a valid one? If it's a concern the art department was able to think of, then it's a valid concern. "What if someone says this?" "Well just tell them this and all the loyal thoughtless sheeple player kiddies out there will instantly agree with us, the Generous art department of a profitable company giving them a free Mini Asura(or a possible Mini Oni, big e-buckeroos there kids)."  | 
	
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Kha
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					Originally Posted by A11Eur0
					
				 
				Jaded, maybe. 
			
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Gaile Gray
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					Originally Posted by CHunterX
					
				 
				Why isn't this on the Announcements Screen at the Login? 
			
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CHunterX
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					Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
					
				 
				Well, the reason it's not on that screen is that it's not an in-game opportunity. Generally we reserve the log-in announcements for game-related things. However, we have a new element going into the game that will allow us to communicate some of these things within the game and I did write up a bit about the Wintersday contest for that. Watch for the new announcer-thingie in a few days.  
			
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					Originally Posted by cosyfiep
					
				 
				-snip- ...................I entered my suggestion here for the hat for wintersday, if anyone wants to use it go ahead.....I dont have the time to get a picture up and running before the deadline (nor do I have photoshop to do it on, so I would need to mail it in as well.....and the usps is well known for its inability to get things to where they need to be when its supposed to get there). So under the constraints of this contest I am not going to spend my few free hours working on it. (my mom's 80'th bday is much more important to me right now....and its on thanksgiving so I need to get my butt in gear for that!) 
			
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  she helped me when I did not receive my prize by snail-mail .... she sent it to me again. KamikazeChicken
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Gaile Gray
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					Originally Posted by WillyWonky
					
				 
				I want to back up my previous post with some positive just to show where I'm coming from. I think these contests are great. They provide interactivity with us the customers and gives us the chance to win prizes, recognition and they're just plain fun. These contests are just plain awesome. 
			
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					Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
					
				 
				I can't draw to save my life, but I'm still going to send something in. It's really not my fault I can't put the idea into picture-perfect form, but the idea itself counts for something. 
			
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Gaile Gray
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					Originally Posted by WillyWonky
					
				 
				And that's exactly what I'm saying. Making a costume that's exactly the same as the ingame armor is no different than just someone copying someone else's art. The only thing is that it was Halloween and people dress up in Halloween. How is that original? 
			
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wu is me
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					Originally Posted by WillyWonky
					
				 
				My issue was that neither of those use any creativity at all. It's just simply copying a design. I even stated that the winning entries did not follow the creative melding of GW and Halloween.  
			
		Now please read again. COPYING IS NOT CREATIVE NO MATTER THE MEDIUM. That's my point.  | 
	
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Nian
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					Originally Posted by WillyWonky
					
				 
				And that's exactly what I'm saying. Making a costume that's exactly the same as the ingame armor is no different than just someone copying someone else's art. The only thing is that it was Halloween and people dress up in Halloween. How is that original? 
			
		Absolutely no creativity for someone to just make a costume and dress up. Sure it takes time and skill to make a costume but so does most things in this world. Where is the creative "melding of Guild Wars and Halloween"? I'd much rather have someone who can only draw stick figures but came up with a creative concept or idea, but the idea winner should be one who has both good concept and good execution. Yes, I'm an art snob. But it's your contest. I just wanted to state my opinions but I still think you're doing a great thing here having these contests.  | 
	
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Perynne
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					Originally Posted by WillyWonky
					
				 
				But if you're simply just copying a design for the clothing then there is no creative process. It's just building something. This applies to ANY medium not just costuming. Now I hope you actually took the time to read all this carefully before you get all defensive about me supposedly ripping on your precious fashion design. 
			
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pumpkin pie
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					Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
					
				 
				Ok, I'm really sorry, but I'm not going to just let this go unanswered, because there's been no response to my question. I'll rephrase it: 
			
		Artist 1 takes a screenshot of a Necromancer armor and submits a wallpaper. Artist 2 sees the Necromancer armour and, using our art, creates a costume.  | 
	
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lakatz
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					Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
					
				 
				hey there Gaile, sorry to barge in your conversation like this but you forgot Artist number 3 who made an entire 3D sculpture that looks perfect. no offence to the Grand Prize winner, the holiday spirit are all there in every piece submitted, everyone is enjoying the contest, but when an entry stands out like the one in the link and did not get the grand prize.... people will question. 
			
		solutions: make them go under category next time, sculpture, costume, wallpaper (screenshot), drawing, painting.. songs, poem, story....  | 
	
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Gaile Gray
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					Originally Posted by TwinRaven
					
				 
				I'm thinking about entering, but I'm still kinda bumming about not seeing my Design-a-Weapon entry in game yet....6 months!  I'm not sure I'll see it at all...I get a little miffed thinking they can get a hat in game in weeks, yet 1/2 a year later and only what...three weapons in game?  I keep hoping they will put them in in some update (Sorrow's Furnace style) but I'm getting discouraged.  The T-shirt, character slot and pins were cool and all...but the REAL prize is seeing your work in game.  If a hat makes it in game from a contest before those weapons do...I'm wondering why...<end fussiness> 
			
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Gaile Gray
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					Originally Posted by TwinRaven
					
				 
				^^Thanks, Gaile...I had a hard time finding any specifics. This is the only quote I could find: "The Design-A-Weapon winners are not yet in the game. It's really that simple, and it's exactly as we said in the contest information. The weapons will be added, and we have some fun ideas for that, so look for that in the future." -G.G. 
			
		...I'm mid-migraine, so forgive the whiny tone..."After Winters Day"....good enough answer for me (was feeling sad and forgotten)...As for mentioned repeatedly....sorry I didn't see where. *frantically searches for info on how to remove both feet from mouth* (didn't realize others were fussy before me)....You know I still love you right? In a platonic, never-met-you, but appreciate what you do kind of way...*I needed a hug*...agree completely with the "not heaping them all in at once" btw...what good is a buffet if you only get one visit?  |