Is there any point to hex removal in PVE?
wolfwing
I mean, it seems to me that any time you would want to remove it, your usually facing 10 enemies that have the skill and it just gets reaplied instantly, AKA ice imps/Boga or anything else that has annoying hexes.
DarkNecrid
There's not a lot of point to a lot of things in PvE.
creelie
You do it strategically. No, you can't keep the whole team free of pink at all times, but you can take Deep Freeze off your melee fighter, and you can take Backfire off your nuker, and so on.
Corwin_Andros
Also if your melee guy is in the midst of a mob, Shatter Hex does some nice AoE damage... around 120 points of armor ignoring damage to anything nearby with my mesmer.
Curse You
[wiki]Cure Hex[/wiki] does some nice healing when you remove a hex. Sometimes you can heal people with just that skill.
Shaz
Yes, as long as you have sufficient prots, heals, and damage, the more hex and condition removals you have the better you'll be. SS, blurred vision, SoF, PoF, and soothing image on melee is no fun, as is vocal on paragon, migraine on casters etc.
Antheus
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Iboga are basically mass degen, imps are only a problem with H/H.
For hex heavy areas there's DH.
In FoW, there's spiteful spirit.
Removing backfire is also crucial (Ascalon areas in HM, and quite a few other places).
Going against things with Feast of Corruption requires heavy hex removal, if 2 or 3 of such enemies appear, they can spike half the party in an instant.
The reason things get applied so massively is only when people are bunched up, it's much less of an issue with groups that are spread out.
Some hexes are never viable for removal. Suffering, for example.
Keep in mind that many (most) issues in PvE are only a problem with H/H.
Stolen Souls
Of course there's a point.
Naturally just removing every hex cast on every party member could be a waste. But removing Deep Freeze or Blurred Vision from your melee, or SS from the ranger, backfire from the casters, etc, is important.
The "annoying" hexes that some mobs cast (suffering via Behemoths, etc) are better off letting run their course, imo.
Naturally just removing every hex cast on every party member could be a waste. But removing Deep Freeze or Blurred Vision from your melee, or SS from the ranger, backfire from the casters, etc, is important.
The "annoying" hexes that some mobs cast (suffering via Behemoths, etc) are better off letting run their course, imo.
Martin Alvito
There's little point to hex rip unless it deals damage. Shatter Hex and Hex Eater Vortex can potentially provide you some nice DPS in some situations. There's the odd situation where getting backliners hexed is unavoidable or getting slow hexes off your warrior after all resistance is down will speed things up. Otherwise, there isn't much of a point.
Regardless of the number of monsters you face, if you're playing properly one guy's holding all aggro anyway (and is capable of surviving 10-20 monsters worth of hate). So even if you're fighting 3 Fire Imps, pulling Mark of Rodgort off that character is rather pointless.
Regardless of the number of monsters you face, if you're playing properly one guy's holding all aggro anyway (and is capable of surviving 10-20 monsters worth of hate). So even if you're fighting 3 Fire Imps, pulling Mark of Rodgort off that character is rather pointless.
Tea Girl
dont worry. things will live in pve. hexed or unhexed
Spazzer
I wouldn't recommend going for Tyrian Guardian without Divert Hexes in the Charr missions. That's usually what people who complain about the 4-man areas in Ascalon are missing.
Inger
its only really pointless for hex removal on heroes, if an entire party becomes hexed with a variety of hexes your heroes will simply spam hex removal. The hexes removed are not necessarily removed from the player that needs it the most or the most dangerous hex is not necessarily removed.
hex removal on a human monk is a different story tho, the hex removal can be saved for when it is actually necessary and removes a crucial hex from a character heavily disabled by it.
hex removal on a human monk is a different story tho, the hex removal can be saved for when it is actually necessary and removes a crucial hex from a character heavily disabled by it.
Yanman.be
Is there any point to PVE? I think that's a better question imo.
Faer
Expel Hexes on a Paragon, Cure Hex on an Lo-- er, sorry, WoH Monk, and Holy Veil on an SoD or RC Monk.
There's a point to removing them (in HM, at least). You just have to know when and how, without going over the top.
There's a point to removing them (in HM, at least). You just have to know when and how, without going over the top.
Spazzer
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Is there any point to PVE? I think that's a better question imo.
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makosi
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
Shatter Hex and Hex Eater Vortex
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Diddy bow
I only bring hex removal vs things with vocal minority in HM. When your the save yourselves para getting vocal minority=dead.
aapo
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
There's not a lot of point to a lot of things in PvE.
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Washi
[skill]hexbreaker aria[/skill]
Skuld
Except dangerous hexes are largely used on weapons classes, making that useless.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Spazzer
I wouldn't recommend going for Tyrian Guardian without Divert Hexes in the Charr missions. That's usually what people who complain about the 4-man areas in Ascalon are missing.
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Blessed Winds
Hexes? Why hexes?
If anything, this should be a thread about conditions.
If anything, this should be a thread about conditions.
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Skuld
Except dangerous hexes are largely used on weapons classes, making that useless.
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Biostem
A good team can defeat a group of enemies fast enough that the hex removal skills you bring along will keep you hex-free, for the most part. I can certainly understand how it can be frustrating, but that's usually the case until you find a team that can counter them successfully.
HawkofStorms
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Hexes? Why hexes?
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Crom The Pale
Conditions and Hexes are dependant upon your overall party build.
Bleeding, Poison, Diseise...
Blurred Vission, Clumbsy, conjure phantasm, price of failure, frozen burst, ect...
Degen can account for a lot of damage if left unchecked, and if your party is weakened your vulnerable to a spike. Aslo if you leave some hexes long enough they can really hurt your entire party big time, Rising Bile as one example.
Over all if you have defensive party build with lots of healing then no, hexes and conditions are not a big deal.
If you have a party that is focused on damage and self healing then yes they will be a problem.
Bleeding, Poison, Diseise...
Blurred Vission, Clumbsy, conjure phantasm, price of failure, frozen burst, ect...
Degen can account for a lot of damage if left unchecked, and if your party is weakened your vulnerable to a spike. Aslo if you leave some hexes long enough they can really hurt your entire party big time, Rising Bile as one example.
Over all if you have defensive party build with lots of healing then no, hexes and conditions are not a big deal.
If you have a party that is focused on damage and self healing then yes they will be a problem.
Avarre
Hexes and hex removal are very dependent on area. You'll always want to only be pulling key hexes because hex removal cannot expect to ever be on the same level as hex application.
Having a Shatter Hex is always nice, but in heavy-hex areas where it matters an Expel is usually enough additional support.
Having a Shatter Hex is always nice, but in heavy-hex areas where it matters an Expel is usually enough additional support.
You can't see me
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Hexes and hex removal are very dependent on area. You'll always want to only be pulling key hexes because hex removal cannot expect to ever be on the same level as hex application.
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That's all that needs to be said to this OP.
DarkGanni
Personally I like to take [skill]remove hex[/skill] Has low energy cost and shortest recharge in the hex removing range of spells.
Spazzer
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Eh... most of the people who complain about the 4-man areas in Ascalon aren't even complaining about areas with Charr. There are only 5 charr in all of Old Ascalon explorable (and they are rangers). Its those dang Udylites using heal area and running away from your melee characters (they kite all the time with their run speed boast, warriors can't do anything against them).
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Effendi Westland
I run around most the eye of the north areas with 2 x expel hexes on my heroes and still end up manually ordering one to take blurred vision/visions of regret/vocal minority of me.
Lord Sojar
Eh, just bring a Healer's Boon monk with Cure hex and dwayna's kiss. I welcome hexes for extra +50s everwhere. 
Kha
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Eh, just bring a Healer's Boon monk with Cure hex and dwayna's kiss. I welcome hexes for extra +50s everwhere.
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ensoriki
Varesh Ossa, meet my friend Topic Creator.
Whats that Varesh? You think he wants to see some of your hex's?
*varesh whispers in my ear*
Varesh you dirty girl.... you don't wipe his team then ask him out >.>
No seriously, Bring hex removal for certain maps, 1 hero with remove hex is seriously good enough, but your going to find situations where you go
"Wheres the hex removal"
pug monk: "Why would I bring that!?"
"BEcause were dying!"
does that make sense? Tried to keep it umm interesting.
Whats that Varesh? You think he wants to see some of your hex's?
*varesh whispers in my ear*
Varesh you dirty girl.... you don't wipe his team then ask him out >.>
No seriously, Bring hex removal for certain maps, 1 hero with remove hex is seriously good enough, but your going to find situations where you go
"Wheres the hex removal"
pug monk: "Why would I bring that!?"
"BEcause were dying!"
does that make sense? Tried to keep it umm interesting.
garethporlest18
Makes things more interesting in PvE when everyone is dying and there are hexes everywhere.
carbajac
Is there a point? Yes, I'd say so, at least for myself. I don't like pink downward arrows on my precious party bar. In pve, at least, I am fine running a blight build just so I can keep that bar solid red.
blue.rellik
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Lord Natural
The only point to hex removal in pve is if your removal is proactive (cure hex, shatter hex, hex eater vortex, etc.). Skills such as remove hex and veil offer no additional benefit, and more often than not the hex is reapplied almost instantly. 5 energy wasted.
Free Wind
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Originally Posted by Lord Natural
The only point to hex removal in pve is if your removal is proactive (cure hex, shatter hex, hex eater vortex, etc.). Skills such as remove hex and veil offer no additional benefit, and more often than not the hex is reapplied almost instantly. 5 energy wasted.
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How can you remove [skill]Shame[/skill] from yourself?
How can you remove [skill]Mark of Subversion[/skill] from yourself?
Only Veil can do that
ensoriki
Or another ally.
Seriously...VARESH OSSA >.>
Domain of Anguish.
Hard mode.
It doesn't hurt to weaken the pressure on you.
Seriously...VARESH OSSA >.>
Domain of Anguish.
Hard mode.
It doesn't hurt to weaken the pressure on you.