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Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

15 Nov 2007 at 19:33 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anet

The PvP Access Kit also includes 60 free unlocks (20 elite skills, 20 normal skills and 20 items) to help you power up your game instantly. Mix and match with Skill and Item Unlock Packs to further enhance your PvP characters.

The "mix and match" part suggests the unlocks can be chosen by the player. (Gaile, confirm?)

As for unlocking the skills for a Chapter: if you buy that chapter's PVP unlcoks, they will immediately be available for use, no need for Balthazar faction.

(I can't help but add, the hype on this being good for PvE players is ridiculous. The better our Heros have it in PvE, the more I wish I had the same options for my Main...)

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

15 Nov 2007 at 21:05 - 42

50% off is great and all, excpet that I can't find what the regular asking price is. Anyone know? Also, why is this still not in the store practically at the end of the day on Nov. 15?

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

15 Nov 2007 at 21:39 - 43

They're late. There's nothing new in the store yet and it should have been up 1 1/2 hours ago according to the announcement.

jurrit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Amsterdam

Bubblegum Dragons [GUM]

15 Nov 2007 at 21:43 - 44

https://secure.plaync.com/cgi-bin/St...tem&item_id=62

Plaync store has the "Guild Wars® PvP Access Kit" for euro 17,99.

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

15 Nov 2007 at 22:21 - 45

Yeah, I just checked there and its $19.95 USD for the pvp access pack, but still no mention of the skill unlock packs. I'm guessing they'll be the same.

Hookecho

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Red States

The Runners Academy

W/Mo

15 Nov 2007 at 22:21 - 46

well that figures..... all they have up so far is the PvP access pack and only in the NCsoft store which I am not if it automatically attaches to your account or not....

this has not been Anets or NCsofts best week ever

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

15 Nov 2007 at 23:08 - 47

....thats because you're being dumb. It hasn't launched in the store yet cause theres still UHHHH 8 hours left of the day over there. Most likely the PvP packs will launch when the end of the day comes, along with the usual Thursday update, and the Bonus Mission Pack...

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

15 Nov 2007 at 23:11 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

....thats because you're being dumb. It hasn't launched in the store yet cause theres still UHHHH 8 hours left of the day over there. Most likely the PvP packs will launch when the end of the day comes, along with the usual Thursday update, and the Bonus Mission Pack...

Over where? Its a couple hours before quitting time in Seattle now. You mean 8 hours left in the actual day? So if you're local depatment store advertises a sale beginning on Nov. 15, wouldn't you expect to be able to make your buy before midnight?

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

15 Nov 2007 at 23:13 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

Over where? Its a couple hours before quitting time in Seattle now.

I said end of day, not quitting time. Anet releases stuff midnight their time they've done it before. There's still like 8 hours to go til Midnight over there.

Hookecho

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Red States

The Runners Academy

W/Mo

15 Nov 2007 at 23:50 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

....thats because you're being dumb. It hasn't launched in the store yet cause theres still UHHHH 8 hours left of the day over there. Most likely the PvP packs will launch when the end of the day comes, along with the usual Thursday update, and the Bonus Mission Pack...

So i guess when they say...........

Quote:

For a limited time, enjoy special, introductory pricing of 50% off when you purchase any of the new Skill or Item Unlock Packs listed below through the Guild Wars In-Game Store or PlayNC.com. Offer good from Noon Pacific time (-8 GMT) November 15, 2007 to Noon Pacific time (-8 GMT) December 31, 2007.

I got somehow confused when they actually put the time in GMT for release?

Whos being dumb? me for actually taking their statement at face value or you for not actually reading it?

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

15 Nov 2007 at 23:53 - 51

"Whos being dumb? me for actually taking their statement at face value or you for not actually reading it?"

You.

Just because they say thats when the offers good from time wise, doesn't mean it will be up then. Nowhere does it say the product in question will be offered then.

Sorry, its just the way it works!

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

15 Nov 2007 at 23:58 - 52

My unlock pack is called "Priest of Balthazaar" Only missing a few non-elite Assassin skills, non-elite Ritualist skills, a few elite and non-elite Dervish skills, and lastly alot of Paragon skills. But considering faction is easy enough to come by I could have them all unlocked in a week or two if I wasn't lazy about it.

Lil Ferk

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Texas

[GORD]

P/

15 Nov 2007 at 23:59 - 53

Oh my gosh! does this mean what i think it means! Hard Core rez in Pre?!

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

16 Nov 2007 at 00:04 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Ferk

Oh my gosh! does this mean what i think it means! Hard Core rez in Pre?!

Pretty sure there would have to be a skill trainer for you to purchase it from. Unlocking skills doesn't give them to your characters, just makes them available to purchase from the skill trainers.

Lil Ferk

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Texas

[GORD]

P/

16 Nov 2007 at 00:06 - 55

My bad nvm didnt read all the way through when it said these Non elite skills are unlocked for PVE i jumped and didnt really read the rest it said to but at a skill trainer so srry

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

16 Nov 2007 at 00:09 - 56

50% off? That's nice. .....50% off of what exactly?

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

16 Nov 2007 at 00:14 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Savio is laughing at the obvious shoddy cut and paste job: all the GWEN skills are already available from GWEN skill trainers, thus you aren't getting anything "extra" from a PvE perspective...

I think it's more of the fact that, except for PvE only ones, which are not included in the pack, there are no other GW:EN elites.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

16 Nov 2007 at 00:38 - 58

A surprising move for ArenaNet. Normally, one milks a franchise for all its worth when it is dying (i.e. Star Wars, Pokemon)

The fact that Guild Wars is doing it now, with GW2 two years away, isn't comforting.

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

16 Nov 2007 at 00:58 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

A surprising move for ArenaNet. Normally, one milks a franchise for all its worth when it is dying

Not true ... World of Warcraft is selling off now and they are miles away from dying ... so is GW ...

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

16 Nov 2007 at 01:26 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

....thats because you're being dumb. It hasn't launched in the store yet cause theres still UHHHH 8 hours left of the day over there. Most likely the PvP packs will launch when the end of the day comes, along with the usual Thursday update, and the Bonus Mission Pack...

Actually, when you made this post, it was already a new day in Washington State. Still nothing in the In-Game Store at this time, and its past noon here.
Are these $19.99 each honestly?

Artkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

RARE

W/Mo

16 Nov 2007 at 03:56 - 61

LMAO waste of time

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

16 Nov 2007 at 05:08 - 62

I think it's cool

i might get one.

Shinjinbukai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Palo Alto, California

Zealots of Shiverpeak[ZoS]

Mo/

16 Nov 2007 at 05:12 - 63

I am getting this Error: Item Distrebution (sp) Error Code:blah blah blah

anyone else getting the same?

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

16 Nov 2007 at 05:13 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reptile

Anyone else thinking it's not a great thing if people who throw money at the game can learn the skills at any skill trainer, but if you were dedicated enough to unlock them on your account the good ol'slug-away way, you can't?

Maybe I'm reading it wrong... hope so. Or let us all learn unlocked skills at any trainer... Uggg.. Mystic Regen on ever Derv from word go....

Bit disappointed if this hasn't been though out.

These skills (except elite skills) also become available for your PvE characters to learn from any Skill Trainer.
^---- Nope.. I don't think I'm reading it wrong :-(

Some of us don't have the time to go through each game and cap all of the elites. Nor the farming power or powertrading power to get enough money for it.

So I'm going to be spending twenty bucks tomorrow. ^^

ThisSuddenInjury

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

PM ME Top 100 xp

Rt/D

16 Nov 2007 at 05:18 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjinbukai

I am getting this Error: Item Distrebution (sp) Error Code:blah blah blah

anyone else getting the same?

yea same thing bro.

Shoujo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

16 Nov 2007 at 05:19 - 66

Eh... I was kinda looking forward to the GWEN unlock, but it looks like I'll have to blow $19.95 for the PvP access kit *then* get the $4.95 (this is with the 50% off) GWEN PvP unlock. Guess I might as well wait for GWEN's price to come down instead.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

16 Nov 2007 at 05:27 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by «Ripskin

Some of us don't have the time to go through each game and cap all of the elites. Nor the farming power or powertrading power to get enough money for it.

So I'm going to be spending twenty bucks tomorrow. ^^

Isn't that the same excuse used by people who buy gold on eBay?

Shinjinbukai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Palo Alto, California

Zealots of Shiverpeak[ZoS]

Mo/

16 Nov 2007 at 05:31 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThisSuddenInjury

yea same thing bro.

does anyone know what the code means?

fleshharvest

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

A/W

16 Nov 2007 at 05:34 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjinbukai

does anyone know what the code means?

There's something wrong with the coding in the store. Probably want to alert support. Btw, I'm getting the same error code. Which sucks, cause I was gonna buy it and get my girlfriend to HA as a surprise for her birthday

ThisSuddenInjury

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

PM ME Top 100 xp

Rt/D

16 Nov 2007 at 05:35 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by fleshharvest

There's something wrong with the coding in the store. Probably want to alert support. Btw, I'm getting the same error code. Which sucks, cause I was gonna buy it and get my girlfriend to HA as a surprise for her birthday

yeah i sent a ticket in, but who knows.

Shinjinbukai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Palo Alto, California

Zealots of Shiverpeak[ZoS]

Mo/

16 Nov 2007 at 05:36 - 71

Well I am glad it isnt just me for the obvious reasons of which are that I don't have to deal with it! =) I am sad though because now we ALL have to wait =(

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

16 Nov 2007 at 08:14 - 72

Must say the price is more tempting than I expected. Shame they didn't throw in a few PvE freebies, though. Say 10 regular skills and 3 elites per toon (not in pre, obviously). That would've really got my attention.

As it stands, I think my heroes can survive with what I've already unlocked for them.

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

17 Nov 2007 at 10:38 - 73

So let me make sure I'm not missing anything here.

'Guild Wars is about individual skill, not time accumulated.'

So if those skills that one needs to obtain to become skilled at their individual skilliness are simply 4.95USD away, what chance is there that a freshly unlocked player is going to know how to use all of them? Or any of them?

Even a fresh PvP character is given a few free skills to start with, and from there you can participate in Alliance Battles, GvG, TA, RA, HA and such. Those reward Balth faction, as well as faction for your respective side in AB. You can then use your reward to learn new skills or unlock new components and insignias for your weapons and armor. As you earn you learn how each class plays, and what skills complement each other. Thus, you become more adept at PVP than a fully unlocked greenhorn.

I dunno, maybe it's just a tired old woman talking when I say that this seems like a greed move on Anet's part. I don't like saying that because GW has consistently free to play, but still. This seems like a step backward, not forward.

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

17 Nov 2007 at 11:27 - 74

I would be very ashamed If I were one of you unlock buyers. Those who buy them deserve a [LAME] sign above their heads to let everyone know that this person sucks at pvp and accepting him to a party brings a high risk of failure.

Getting all the unlocks by just playing the game is extremelly easy at the current rates and wise spending of faction can assure you never miss a skill or weapon mod for a build. Buying unlocks doesn't make anyone better, a noob that buys them will still suck just as much. But there are always terrible players who want to buy their ingame success and 'advantages' (like ebay gold buyers) and Anet found a way to make money on them.

Does it make the game better? Definately not, it's not any improvement at all, it doesn't help those players to be better. It's just a way for milking those suckers instead of teaching them how to play and that earning those unlocks is really very easy.

The "PvP Access Pack" is exactly opposite - it's godawesome, it came 1 year too late, it was really needed to make PvP easily accessible for everyone without the need of spending 150$++ on all campagins/expansion. All unlocks are not needed immediately, new players need to learn to play, learn to use all those skills and stuff.

Shoujo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

17 Nov 2007 at 22:05 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Getting all the unlocks by just playing the game is extremelly easy at the current rates and wise spending of faction can assure you never miss a skill or weapon mod for a build. Buying unlocks doesn't make anyone better, a noob that buys them will still suck just as much. But there are always terrible players who want to buy their ingame success and 'advantages' (like ebay gold buyers) and Anet found a way to make money on them.

I honestly don't see a difference between folks who faction farm for their skills and those who just fork out real money. Like you said, earning unlocks is easy and takes no skill, so the person who grinds it out to get all the skills really isn't learning much, even less so if the skills were bought in PvE. Also like said, a new player who buys a skill pack will still be new and have to learn how to play the game. The advantage that you imply is there simply doesn't exist and there's nothing preventing either player from learning how to play the game

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

17 Nov 2007 at 22:18 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jongo River

Shame they didn't throw in a few PvE freebies, though.

They're PvP unlock packs, what were you expecting?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

'Guild Wars is about individual skill, not time accumulated.'

So if those skills that one needs to obtain to become skilled at their individual skilliness are simply 4.95USD away, what chance is there that a freshly unlocked player is going to know how to use all of them? Or any of them?

Skill != skills. Regardless of how a person unlocks skills, they'll still have the same level of understanding of the skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

I would be very ashamed If I were one of you unlock buyers. Those who buy them deserve a [LAME] sign above their heads to let everyone know that this person sucks at pvp and accepting him to a party brings a high risk of failure.

Because grinding out unlocks makes you skilled, mirite?

Talinna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lions Arch Dis 4 (International)

Servants of Fortuna [SoF

Mo/N

18 Nov 2007 at 00:18 - 77

I'm getting so screwed by this. I had a second account from before the intro of Factions (and the intro of additional character slots). About a month ago I decied I'd invest in the PvP editions one at a time and turn that second account into a PvP only account. So I got the Nightfall edition, I go back to weeks later to buy Factions, the store no longer offers them, I write PlayNC, they tell me they are updating the choices, and it will not effect people already owning PvP editons.. Bull$$$$ .... so now I've got a basic Prophecies account with the PvP nightfall stuff unlocked, I want to buy the Factions one (at $5) but guess what, I'd also have to buy their nice little "PvP kit" first.. which is screwing me into having to pay for stuff I already have! Tell me how this is fair? I wrote PlayNC, they said they are not crediting back money to anybody who paid the near $40 for the first PvP editons, and now they want to screw me out of extra moeny to finish it out!

Everytime I turn around it looks like they're inventing a new way to try and sucker some more money out of people.
Give them another six months and they will find a way to charge a monthly fee for being in a guild.

forever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

18 Nov 2007 at 02:04 - 78

Understand your frustration. But considering that you only have to pay $24.90 for PvP access and Faction's skill unlock, it's still a bargain than paying $39.99 for Faction PvP Edition which you tried to buy before. So clearly the new options are way better than the old PvP editions for new pvp players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talinna

I'm getting so screwed by this. I had a second account from before the intro of Factions (and the intro of additional character slots). About a month ago I decied I'd invest in the PvP editions one at a time and turn that second account into a PvP only account. So I got the Nightfall edition, I go back to weeks later to buy Factions, the store no longer offers them, I write PlayNC, they tell me they are updating the choices, and it will not effect people already owning PvP editons.. Bull$$$$ .... so now I've got a basic Prophecies account with the PvP nightfall stuff unlocked, I want to buy the Factions one (at $5) but guess what, I'd also have to buy their nice little "PvP kit" first.. which is screwing me into having to pay for stuff I already have! Tell me how this is fair? I wrote PlayNC, they said they are not crediting back money to anybody who paid the near $40 for the first PvP editons, and now they want to screw me out of extra moeny to finish it out!

Everytime I turn around it looks like they're inventing a new way to try and sucker some more money out of people.
Give them another six months and they will find a way to charge a monthly fee for being in a guild.

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

18 Nov 2007 at 08:12 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

They're PvP unlock packs, what were you expecting?

Oh, I wasn't expecting anything, but since the packs are now cheap enough to consider for heroes (if I hadn't already unlocked most of the elites they need), I thought it was a shame there wasn't something extra, to make them a bit more tempting to the PvE'er - as I'd happily buy a couple if there was.

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

18 Nov 2007 at 12:06 - 80

Ok, I've got to admit that I don't totally understand this unlock pack thing... I understand from a PvP point of view, but I'm a PvE'er... When it says unlocks for heroes, does that mean it has now totally negated the hero skills guys, and gives the automatically all the skills from whatever pack you buy? Or do all these hero skill trainers simply have all the skills available and you buy it from them?

I might get it to completely deck out my heroes, since I tend to only buy the skills I need on all but the characters I play most, Namely a monk, an ele, and a necro. I have very few skills of other professions, none at all but the ones that come with the heroes of Paragon, Sin and Dervish...