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eightyfour-onesevenfive

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

16 Nov 2007 at 07:51 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

I am empowered by "There's nothing to Fear!"
I am using a Weapon of Remedy!
I am listening to an Aggressive Refrain!

Etcetera. Nifty stuff, I guess.

Ah finally, thank you so much for this! reading stuff like "I have Deep Wound on me!" made me cringe every single time.

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

16 Nov 2007 at 08:35 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

Ah finally, thank you so much for this! reading stuff like "I have Deep Wound on me!" made me cringe every single time.

And yet skills like Mend Ailment still have silly explanations of the skill.

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 08:56 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

told Izzy in-game he needs to nerf Fire ele's, said he's looking forward to. ^^

Am I the only one that is slightly disturbed by the above statement??? Personally, as an Ele, I'm hearily sick of the buff/nerf cycle they go through every time someone can't cope with their skillset.

Here's a thought - don't nerf fire eles, buff some of the other attribute lines so they are more effective and get more play.

NiukNiuk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

France

P/

16 Nov 2007 at 09:25 - 44

Quote:

* Fixed a bug on the second level of the Bloodstone Caves dungeon that caused a large group of bats to spawn on top of a resurrection shrine.

Nice ! thanks.

eightyfour-onesevenfive

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

16 Nov 2007 at 09:41 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHunterX

And yet skills like Mend Ailment still have silly explanations of the skill.

One step at a time. They'll come to that, eventually.

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

16 Nov 2007 at 09:43 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

Here's a thought - don't nerf fire eles, buff some of the other attribute lines so they are more effective and get more play.

Tweak lightning magic spells, they are too costly.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

16 Nov 2007 at 09:49 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

Here's a thought - don't nerf fire eles, buff some of the other attribute lines so they are more effective and get more play.

The problem with that is if you buff an attribute so that it is on par or superior to the currently dominating attribute, you'll only be hurting the overall balance of the game, not helping it.

Say for example Fire Magic was incredibly overpowered (which it isn't really, but there are some nifty spells and builds that are pretty lolwutawesome). Now, we buff Water Magic to make people consider taking it. That doesn't fix the problem of Fire Magic raping everything in sight, and it adds the problem of Water Magic also raping everything in sight.

For PvE, that's not a problem, but for PvP, it opens up a whole new can of imbalanced Junundu.

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

16 Nov 2007 at 09:52 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surena

Tweak lightning magic spells, they are too costly.

You mean, re-do Air so it does something useful other than blind?

Also, if you were to say, bring earth's damage up to the level of fire, that would be a terrible idea since you could blow things up AND use stoneflesh/stone striker and take just about zero damage from everything.

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

16 Nov 2007 at 09:54 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kha

Yet they won't fix the numerous graphic errors on player armors. Makes me sad that that creepy fat man is getting more loving than us

That's too true. It's ridiculous that some armor costs up to one million, and you still find black squares sticking out of your character's arse.

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

16 Nov 2007 at 09:57 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by X89

So I only got 25 tourny points when I know I was supposed to get 75, anyone else having issues with that?

A lot of people (including me) didn't even get any points. And I know I got at least 25 :P

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

16 Nov 2007 at 09:58 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by unienaule

You mean, re-do Air so it does something useful other than blind?

Also, if you were to say, bring earth's damage up to the level of fire, that would be a terrible idea since you could blow things up AND use stoneflesh/stone striker and take just about zero damage from everything.

Yep, air should do more than just blind by offering a "spammability" like the fire magic line (thus cheaper spells), it'll still lack the Fire AoE in the end. The only real problem could arise if everything would become spikish.

Earth should stay defensive.

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 10:05 - 52

*Hidden Update*

Pets Leave a Corpse Again.

- Ganni

PS saw a minion come out it 5mins ago in tombs.

EDIT: Ok I'm sure i'm not going crazy but I saw a bone fiend coming out a wolf thats for sure >.>

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

16 Nov 2007 at 10:17 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

I'm not getting any reward points from the Xunlai guy, where I should be getting 75. And this time I actually have a use for those Balthazar flames.

Huh... tried again just now and this time I got them.

foo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

N/

16 Nov 2007 at 10:37 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGanni

*Hidden Update*

Pets Leave a Corpse Again.

- Ganni

PS saw a minion come out it 5mins ago in tombs.

EDIT: Ok I'm sure i'm not going crazy but I saw a bone fiend coming out a wolf thats for sure >.>

I've tried it and it wasn't consumables.

EDIT:
oh yeah! first it appeared grey, and I couldn't cast animate, but a couple of minutes later it turned colorful again, and I could!

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 10:43 - 55

What Pet Was it by the way? I Only saw it on Wolf (forgot if was from gwen or common one and white moa)

EDIT: in tombs right now with a group trying to prove this. Ganni

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

16 Nov 2007 at 10:45 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by foo

I've tried it and it wasn't consumables.

EDIT:
oh yeah! first it appeared grey, and I couldn't cast animate, but a couple of minutes later it turned colorful again, and I could!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Update:

*Player Pets: Eventually dead pets rot enough to become used as an exploitable corpse.

lolamirite?RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

16 Nov 2007 at 11:06 - 57

I have mending on me!

*gets kicked from party*

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I was joking!

Regarding Fire Eles, their capability as damage dealers is already questionable in PvE, even more so in PvP. Buff Air to have some more use than being a blindbot, it sucks the most of the many elemental lines at the moment. Water has utility, which is rarely needed in PvE. I always think of Moddok Crevice and freezing two runners, but that was it...

foo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

N/

16 Nov 2007 at 11:12 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGanni

What Pet Was it by the way? I Only saw it on Wolf (forgot if was from gwen or common one and white moa)

EDIT: in tombs right now with a group trying to prove this. Ganni

pkm phoenix.

but I don't see how that matters.

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

16 Nov 2007 at 11:20 - 59

Did Confessor Dorian get an Atkins diet or what?

Rehnahvah Gahro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Underground

Rt/R

16 Nov 2007 at 11:26 - 60

Did anyone notice the quite large -image?

I guess the Bonus Mission Pack is on it's way...

What do you think?

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

16 Nov 2007 at 11:31 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

Am I the only one that is slightly disturbed by the above statement??? Personally, as an Ele, I'm hearily sick of the buff/nerf cycle they go through every time someone can't cope with their skillset.

This also disturbed me, because fire eles are really shitty and don't deserve a nerf.

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 12:12 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

That doesn't fix the problem of Fire Magic raping everything in sight

Lol - a tad of overexaggeration here methinks

I play fire ele a lot. Ihmo, I'm powerful, but not overpowerful. Above all, in full on fire setup, I'm squishy as hell. In other setups, I can add damage mitigation etc at the cost of single or multiple enemy damage.

Atm, I think Anet has just about got the fire line right. I still think there is room to buff the other skill lines though....

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

16 Nov 2007 at 12:14 - 63

(Most of) Water Magic skills have too high of a recharge to warrant anything outside of using it as simply snares instead of damage dealing. (Most of) Air magic has too high of a cost for single-target spells to warrant anything outside of spiking and blinding. Earth Magic is fine. Fire Magic is fine.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

16 Nov 2007 at 13:22 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

a tad of overexaggeration

Yes, naturally. I was just using Fire and Water Magic as examples. I could have used Axe and Sword Mastery, or Illusion and Domination Magic, Democrats and Republicans, Minivans and Corvettes... You get the idea.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

16 Nov 2007 at 13:27 - 65

I like how they continually change things that are wrong in Prophecies, but have been wrong for 29+ months. Well, probably 4+ years if you think about it. Why change them now....

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

16 Nov 2007 at 13:36 - 66

Why change the fat white mantle's model when the could fix armor?

Farrell-Zander

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Switzerland

16 Nov 2007 at 14:09 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

* Updated Confessor Dorian’s model to correct some graphical errors.

Boy, I'm sure glad they fixed his armor instead of all the other character armors which have glitches...

jezz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

R/

16 Nov 2007 at 14:23 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

Just some pointless stuff, no Soul Reaping or Pet revert. :'-(

correct me if i am wrong ...
but i think pets have reverted...undocumented change.

must of been glitch or my imagination but after update pets were exploitable in tombs..but today no sadly..back to Non-exploitable..

not going to lose to much sleep over it..

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 14:56 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

Just some pointless stuff, no Soul Reaping or Pet revert. :'-( Told Izzy in-game he needs to nerf Fire ele's, said he's looking forward to. ^^

Why would you do such a thing? Us eles are easily dealt with, and you don't need to keep nerfing our fire spikes. Stop thinking the only way to beat us is to nerf our poor, innocent, defenseless spells.

Anyhoo, i'm rather bored by this update. Kinda happy they fixed asuran scan. I was rather unsure if my damage was being pumped or not.

Whisper Evenstar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

NYC

Governors Of Destruction [GOD]

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 15:17 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

* Reduced the healing attributes of Forgotten Priests in the Thirsty River to compensate for the increased effectiveness of their Word of Healing skill.

Haha - I did this mission in HM the day before this update - all you needed was a good Domination build to roll right over those priests... I'm surprised they nerfed them as they weren't much of an issue at all....

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

16 Nov 2007 at 15:20 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diddy bow

Why change the fat white mantle's model when the could fix armor?

Guess his armour cost more and took longer to grind, besides who really gives a toss about graphical glitches on NPC's, it's those glitched bits hanging off me im more concerned with, than some fat dude who appears very briefly compared to my character who appears all the time.

They need to get their priorities right, as I don't recall seeing many "fix Dorian" threads compared to the amount of ones relating to Player's Armour Glitches.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

16 Nov 2007 at 15:54 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Guess his armour cost more and took longer to grind, besides who really gives a toss about graphical glitches on NPC's, it's those glitched bits hanging off me im more concerned with, than some fat dude who appears very briefly compared to my character who appears all the time.

They need to get their priorities right, as I don't recall seeing many "fix Dorian" threads compared to the amount of ones relating to Player's Armour Glitches.

QFT

Someone should make a "Plz revert Dorian" thread.

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

16 Nov 2007 at 16:00 - 73

Yeah, ANet fixed something! they shouldn't do that unless it's the thing I'm annoyed by.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

16 Nov 2007 at 16:45 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Yeah, ANet fixed something! they shouldn't do that unless it's the thing I'm annoyed by.

So there was actually one single person annoyed by a slight graphical error of an NPC that you see only in a mission or two?

Nobody said they shouldn't fix it, your clever sarcasm there really fails pretty bad.

Fixing graphical errors is more important than fixing graphical errors on a rarely seen NPC, unless you actually believe that thousands of people care about the Dorian graphic bug.

Just because something should have a higher priority doesn't mean that the lower priority things shouldn't be done.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

16 Nov 2007 at 17:07 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omniclasm

So there was actually one single person annoyed by a slight graphical error of an NPC that you see only in a mission or two?

Nobody said they shouldn't fix it, your clever sarcasm there really fails pretty bad.

Fixing graphical errors is more important than fixing graphical errors on a rarely seen NPC, unless you actually believe that thousands of people care about the Dorian graphic bug.

Just because something should have a higher priority doesn't mean that the lower priority things shouldn't be done.

Yet people are bitching about armor again because they fixed this minor bug. Had they not done the minor thing, people wouldn't be complaining about the major thing. Ergo, you might as well tell them that they shouldn't fix the minor stuff.

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

16 Nov 2007 at 17:48 - 76

Most of the graphical errors on player chars would require a massive reconstruction of the models and the mechanics of how they are manipulated, changing one npc is a far smaller task.

Chances are changes to Dorian were actually not made on purpose but rather new models were made for the bonus pack and simply replaced the old models giving it the apperance of an update.

Whisper Evenstar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

NYC

Governors Of Destruction [GOD]

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 18:07 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Chances are changes to Dorian were actually not made on purpose but rather new models were made for the bonus pack and simply replaced the old models giving it the apperance of an update.

Good catch man... gives some weight to the argument that BMP content was part of the update

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

16 Nov 2007 at 18:11 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Yet people are bitching about armor again because they fixed this minor bug. Had they not done the minor thing, people wouldn't be complaining about the major thing. Ergo, you might as well tell them that they shouldn't fix the minor stuff.

Well glitches in Armour have been a MAJOR bug for years, yet they seem more concerned with fixing minor stuff no one gives a rats ass about, especially seeing as someone without Prophecies and/or the BMP (which someone mentioned it was probably to do with) will never even see.

Glitched player Armour however is something they will see and should be higher up on the "things to be fixed scale"

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

16 Nov 2007 at 19:00 - 79

Okay, did a search and couldn't find anything... but has anyone else noticed how Herta and Cynn are grunting like there's no tomorrow since the update? I feel like I've got two paragons instead of two eles in the hench lineup.

I even redid the Snowman dungeon three times cutting out the female hench one by one to find out who it was.... >.<

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

16 Nov 2007 at 19:25 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whisper Evenstar

Haha - I did this mission in HM the day before this update - all you needed was a good Domination build to roll right over those priests... I'm surprised they nerfed them as they weren't much of an issue at all....

a ranger with Broad Head Arrow and any physical character shuts them down harder. Any caster for that fact