I'm only posting this because I have never seen it happen before while trapping or likewise anywhere in the game. The story is, I was with a 3 man trapping team, and we killed 2 aatxes that dropped 2 ectos at the same time assigned to the same person. Weird eh? I thought the chances of getting an ecto were around 4%, imagine 2 at the same time for the same person.
Luck of the drop.
TEB Elite
Darksun
The chance could have been .000001% and you could still have that happen. Chance is simply a way of describing the likelihood of something happening, not a guarantee that it will happen every 96 kills.
Neo Nugget
ectos drop all the time, even though they aren't really common. But 2 for the same person is still kinda impressive.
:O
:O
Lets Get to Healing
Its lady luck. She can bless you or spite you.
All depends.
All depends.
Bryant Again
Rocks to be him, sucks to be you.
aapo
Lootscaling.
*runs*
*runs*
unienaule
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Lootscaling.
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chowmein69
lets farm ectoz now
I Phoenix I
Chance of that is 0.04%...which is 1 in 2500.
.04 * .04 for two consecutive drops, and then times .25 for both being for you.
.04 * .04 for two consecutive drops, and then times .25 for both being for you.
Avarre
Yes, this is what happens from chance. I've had triple ecto drops from a group of 3 Aatxes.
Not much to say..
Not much to say..
I Phoenix I
Woops, just noticed you did 3-man, so my calculations are off.
O well, too lazy to fix them.
O well, too lazy to fix them.
Captain Arne Is PRO
How about 5 Shards from the mob of 7 Shadow Beasts that spawn in FoW after you clear the Abyssals and Shadow Warriors from in front of the arena?
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1 up and 2 down
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Its lady luck. She can bless you or spite you.
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If that is how lady luck is then she most certainly spites me!
Drop of Fear
happens... i tried to retain 14 lockpicks in a row in hard mode... aswell as trashing 10+ in a row in normal mode.
just happens
just happens
pumpkin pie
it is not a good sign to get that many drops because, when I did my first UW run with a full team of 8, I got most of the ectos drops 4 to be exact, and I got 3 out of those 4.
never get any drop after that in a full team... yes take me to UW! cos I don't get ecto drops!!!
never get any drop after that in a full team... yes take me to UW! cos I don't get ecto drops!!!
Just.nl
Maybe he's just lucky i was farming an time the scar eater on HM i did it maybe 100 times for once the scar eater and i setted it for fun on normal mode 2 farms 2 drops and did the farm lots of timesmore but no drops.
just think 2 ectos from 2 aatxe's=possible
He can get=You can get!
so the next time you can be the lucky person!
just think 2 ectos from 2 aatxe's=possible
He can get=You can get!
so the next time you can be the lucky person!
mr_groovy
Lol happpens
I remember doing a 4 man trap way thing because I was really bored (With puggies). I got 4 ecto's that run. The others got none. Lucky I guess
I remember doing a 4 man trap way thing because I was really bored (With puggies). I got 4 ecto's that run. The others got none. Lucky I guess
Fril Estelin
The more I read about this "strange phenomenons of luck in GW", the more I think Anet have been quite original with their take on the "random" function. It looks like the random function exhibits various behaviours, from the "normal range" where you get drops close to what you'd expect in terms of %age, to more "lucky" and "unlucky" ranges where you get more and less, but overall it is inline with the statistics (+/- minor variations?). IMHO this is really fun, it makes our experience of the game often varied, it may be fun (what a surprise to get 2 greens in a 6-party!) or not so fun (no drops in 30 kills?), but overall the variation gives a certain "depth" to the game!
strcpy
Random will have ...interesting... outcomes fairly often. Especially true when everyone that gets one of the interesting outcomes comes on a board to talk (complain or boast) about it. It can very well seem to the extraordinary is happening all the time even though it isn't (after all, who is going to make a post about an average run happening once again?). With a decent population even *really* rare occurrences will happen often enough to fill forum posts.
So far, I have had one good piece of luck during the two+ years I have played the game. I once had a string of about 15-20 lockpicks not break in NM. Other than that I once got an "ultra-rare" drop the old way (however, with the advent of HM it was no longer ultra-rare, had I done the same thing a few weeks before I would have been rich) and I once had a gold elemental sword sword drop - except it was one of the unusual ones that had no inscription and, therefore, would never accept one and was worthless (it was even low req - QQ).
*sigh* such is life and I have lived long enough to know to just accept it even if I do not like it. Since I have started I make right around what "average" should be, neither really lucky or unlucky and I know of people who have had both states happen to them over time.
So far, I have had one good piece of luck during the two+ years I have played the game. I once had a string of about 15-20 lockpicks not break in NM. Other than that I once got an "ultra-rare" drop the old way (however, with the advent of HM it was no longer ultra-rare, had I done the same thing a few weeks before I would have been rich) and I once had a gold elemental sword sword drop - except it was one of the unusual ones that had no inscription and, therefore, would never accept one and was worthless (it was even low req - QQ).
*sigh* such is life and I have lived long enough to know to just accept it even if I do not like it. Since I have started I make right around what "average" should be, neither really lucky or unlucky and I know of people who have had both states happen to them over time.
manitoba1073
Its part of the ToD(Timing of Deaths) bug(or as some call it the AoE bug).
Loot drop is determined by character slot first then assigns what that loot is. When you kill multiple things at once(Timing of deaths) the loot drop assignment hangs assigning multipe drops to the same person. Your friend just got lucky that both drops turned out to be ectos.
Loot drop is determined by character slot first then assigns what that loot is. When you kill multiple things at once(Timing of deaths) the loot drop assignment hangs assigning multipe drops to the same person. Your friend just got lucky that both drops turned out to be ectos.
Severlator
HAX!!!
nahh just kidding, theres always a small chance of something like that happening but luck can go the other way and you could clear that area 20 times and not get one.
nahh just kidding, theres always a small chance of something like that happening but luck can go the other way and you could clear that area 20 times and not get one.
Steboy93
That seems extremely lucky for that guy, reminds me of the time i got 6 golds doing nolani academy in hard mode
Cobalt
Doing repeated runs in the same areas I have noticed a distinct drop pattern in the game;
I have been doing a lot of 8-man HM runs in the Cathedral dungeon lately and it always seems there will be two out of the eight that will get the majority of the good drops.
I have also been doing a lot of 8-man SS/LB rep wurm runs and that same pattern exists, two out of the eight get the majority of the good drops.
So following this apparent pattern if you are in a 4-man then logically one out of the four will indeed get the majority of the good drops i.e both ectos.
I have been doing a lot of 8-man HM runs in the Cathedral dungeon lately and it always seems there will be two out of the eight that will get the majority of the good drops.
I have also been doing a lot of 8-man SS/LB rep wurm runs and that same pattern exists, two out of the eight get the majority of the good drops.
So following this apparent pattern if you are in a 4-man then logically one out of the four will indeed get the majority of the good drops i.e both ectos.
fowlero
Phaern Majes
I say chance is 50% either it happens or it doesn't
Tommy McTom
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How about 5 Shards from the mob of 7 Shadow Beasts that spawn in FoW after you clear the Abyssals and Shadow Warriors from in front of the arena?
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Wildi
another reason why the ToD or AoE bug should be fixed
Fril Estelin
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I say chance is 50% either it happens or it doesn't
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Can someone elaborate on what the "the ToD or AoE bug" is (previous explanations weren't clear to me)?
MithranArkanere
I've seen that very thing with black dyes.
Anything is possible.
Anything is possible.
ValaOfTheFens
Its just luck. Once I did a run in FoW and out of the 8 shards dropped one person got 6. It was the monk so no one was mad about it. Payment for a thankless task and all.
Divinus Stella
Well a while ago i saw someone in FoW get a 2 gold shadow shields at exactly the same time, both the same req and both turned out to be +30/-2s with the same gold value i think, more likely a bug than luck.
Farrell-Zander
lol, I read this thread a few minutes ago and really wanted to farm in the underworld again. So I dug up my old solo build and gave it a go. On the 2nd run I killed a group of smites and they dropped 2 ectos Reading this thread makes you lucky!
Reading this thread makes you lucky!
Blessed Winds
Strangely, I have this happen all the time.
I did two trapping runs in a row with the same group and one guy got all four ectos and the rest got phantom residue D:
I did two trapping runs in a row with the same group and one guy got all four ectos and the rest got phantom residue D:
manitoba1073
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Can someone elaborate on what the "the ToD or AoE bug" is (previous explanations weren't clear to me)? |
A11Eur0
I've had that happen a couple times..first time was at the first group of aatxes when I was 2-manning with my necro, both dropped for me, and the second time was at the very last group of smites, 3 ectos dropped with two for the monk. Different runs.
Fril Estelin
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All it is is that when you kill multiple things at the exact same time the loot system hangs at the first step in its algorythim.
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garethporlest18
I had that happen to me once too, except it 3 ecto from 3/4 Aatxe, back before Factions was released when me and my guildie were farming UW. Major luck there.
Phaern Majes
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50% is not "chance", it's probability: do it 100 times and it'll happen close to 50 times. I doubt this is the case in general in GW!
Can someone elaborate on what the "the ToD or AoE bug" is (previous explanations weren't clear to me)? |
I understand probability just fine, but thanks for the lesson professor.
TEB Elite
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manitoba1073
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(sorry to hijack this thread) How do you know it's a bug and not a feature? Has any dev made comment about that? (it'd be very strange for a bug)
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http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...#post3727 228
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...467969&page=30
Those are just a few threads with the discussion it even though you'll have to look through them some.