WRt Raptor Nestlings ~ Riven Earth

Qwertyfied

Qwertyfied

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ireland

DVDF

E/

Made about 1750 of each item doing this for the weekend, along with 6 Ele swords, and a couple hundred golds. Was fun, but only did it because of the event items, else i wouldnt bother, perhaps wintersday stuff will drop, if so ill be making a return

Stop The Storm

Stop The Storm

Keeping DoA Alive

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Were In [DoA]

A/N

will get nerf'd WAY before christmas.

expect some casters put in the cave pretty soon

eximiis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

a simple twisting jaws to mini raptor would kill the run !!

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

I would think you guys would figure out the trend by now!

Bragging about farming spots and drops

+

Suggesting it will be nerfed or ways to nerf it

=

A-net catching wind of whats going and nerfing the crap out of it.



Seriously, just let this thread die, or better yet delete it all together.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

could you use this with an E/Rit with earth spells replacing strenght ones, glyph of swiftness, and VwK?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Didn't want to read through eight pages, but need confirmation. Is this hardmode or not? Why isn't there just a template posted instead of a skill list? What's sprint for? How well does this work compared to the A/E build?

MBP

MBP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Arizona

Clanless Fraggers

R/Mo

yes HM

sprint/enraging charge is for aggroing them

yes it works as good as the A/E (or E/A if you prefer) but it's a tiny bit slower imo...on the other hand it has more survivability.

I'm assuming there's no template because nobody asked for one to be posted yet.

Also this isn't pvxwiki.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Didn't want to read through eight pages, but need confirmation. Is this hardmode or not? Why isn't there just a template posted instead of a skill list? What's sprint for? How well does this work compared to the A/E build? Lazy! Go read.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Hmm, my drops on this have dropped off somewhat, havent got a gold in about 8-9 runs.

~A Leprechaun~

shadows of hob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rocky (Dragon)Mountains

Mo/Me

I think ANET alrdy nerfed the spot.

Killing 30 raptors(including the boss) with the e/a build and only getting 1 white drop is just plain silly.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Its not nerfed. In about 2 hours time I collected approx 15-20k in gold and merchant fodder turned in to gold. I also got 12 gold drops. 2 of those drops were a req 9 tactic conch and a req 9 greater sage blade with +30 hp. I'm having fun while it lasts.

I was using warrior/rit vwk.

2 running skills is a waste. Its better to kill them in smaller groups, I got more drops that way vs. killing all at once.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

Nerfed for me, definately. They really hate good farming spots.... or good farmers.

KANE

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I dont use 2 running skills, just sprint, but I still aggro all of them, my exact build is:

Vwk - Wary Stance - Bonnetti's Defense - Dolyak Signet - Ancestors rage - Sprint - Defensive Stance (for when they are all following you on your way to the wall) - Signet of Stamina (Probably not needed but I feel safer with it and the run is still very fast)

But yeah, maybe there is still a farm code, going to do a few missions and come back to it.

~A Leprechaun~

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Actually, I take Enraging Charge instead of Sprint because of the adrenaline gain to get Bonettis up faster if I need it. Definately no need for 2 running skills.

monstersparkler

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

ANet has not done anything directly to the drop rates, the area is simply getting over farmed, everyone has been saying it since the start that everyone would soon be doing the farm, at which point the quality of drops will become particularly awful.

Especially after the weekend of special Thanksgiving items, everyone and their mums were farming this spot.

I can't really blame anyone for doing this run so much. In my opinion this is one of the few farming runs that is actually fun, and profitable, in a very long time. It's so easily done and is completed in such a short time that it can make the farm almost fun, like griffon farming was (some would say).

Please don't go blaming ANet or destroying 'your' particular farming spot, any place that becomes over farmed has significantly lower drop rates, and that has been a part of Guild Wars for a very long time.
Also, if you've been using the same character for 2 weeks on this spot, are you honestly surprised that the amount of items are decreasing?

If you don't like it (worse drops), get out there and find your own thing to farm, even post it if you like, if everyone posts a lot of good, fun farming runs, then no singular place would ever become overfarmed, keeping good drop rates! (That is until ANet actually nerfs an area :P )

ANet isn't ruining our fun, the damage was already done a long time ago with their farm codes and all that bollocks, so it's not entirley the fault of people completing the farm.

I think that's all of my mithering and pestering out of the way. Do what you like.

Stop The Storm

Stop The Storm

Keeping DoA Alive

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Were In [DoA]

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
I would think you guys would figure out the trend by now!

Bragging about farming spots and drops

+

Suggesting it will be nerfed or ways to nerf it

=

A-net catching wind of whats going and nerfing the crap out of it.



Seriously, just let this thread die, or better yet delete it all together. anet knew before we knew that it would be a heavily farmed spot eventually.

40+ raptors in a little cave next to an outpost? lol

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stop The Storm
anet knew before we knew that it would be a heavily farmed spot eventually.

40+ raptors in a little cave next to an outpost? lol exactly 33+boss.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stop The Storm
anet knew before we knew that it would be a heavily farmed spot eventually.

40+ raptors in a little cave next to an outpost? lol lol, ya your right! Anet loves to set up sweet farming spots, then enjoys taking them away. Its to easy, they had to put this farming spot there on purpose just to see what would happen and how long it would take for players to figure it out.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

I tried this out last night. It's not nerfed, it's just the regular anti farm that exists everywhere. I started out getting lots of golds, and they trickled off to a slow stream of a few whites and saurian bones. Sounds like people new to farming claiming it's been 'nerfed'.

Anyways, I'm taking Air of Superiority and Radiation Field, pulling 22 at once, and basically blowing them up so fast that this is seriously contributing to the low drop rate.

It's pretty lame when you have to intentionally not be efficient to get good drops (ie, not pulling all at once, not blowing them up fast)

anyways last night's catch was 2 black dyes, 2 r9 tactics shell shield thingies, 1 r9 greater sage blade, 1 +30 hp shield handle, 12 sin tomes

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

A lot of superstitious farmers.

This is all about speed until it is nerfed. There is no anti-farm, who cares about loot scaling, I don't. You get some runs in a row with nothing worth picking up, then you get a couple multi rare per run trips that make up for your no drop runs.

It all evens out. I'm still getting 20-30 rares per hour with the E/A, and stacks upon stacks of the saurian bones. I sure hope they add a wintersday collector for them ( hint to the anet people that are reading this.)

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Meh, all I know is I'm not getting drops anymore, before it was about 1 gold a run, now nothing, I even went away and did 3 missions and farmed a few other areas before I came back to it. I will keep trying and see if I start getting something other than crappy white drops again.

~A Leprechaun~

Malaguard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Dark

A/

Thanks for this thread guys.

I started this farm last night with my Assassin. I ran the recommended A/E fire build (earlier post).

I saw the potential right away, but was having problems running in as a fast fire djinn and then popping off all the skills in time. I did find that if I collected a large group and then stood in between the wall of the cave and a rib-cage that sticks out of the ground, the raptors usually couldn't run away. I also added intensity to the build that was at PVXWIKI. Firestorm, sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Bed of Coals, Intensity. = Most dead. Finish last few with another fire djinn.

The first few runs were OK. Usually because I didn't collect them all. Once I got better at the run, and was collecting 25+ raptors (not the boss group), they'd all die, and ONE ITEM (saurian bone or other crap) would drop. That sucked.

I loaded up the old ele-sword farmer build (sliver armor bouncing sin). SF, shadow of haste or something (at work, can't think of exact skill), death's charge in, run around a little to collect, and then Ele Glyph, Sliver Armor, Intensity, Radiation Field, and a PBAoE blast (snowstorm might also work). Bounce out using deadly paradox (cancel - stance). Wait a sec, bounce back in.

Immediately noticed a HUGE increase in the drops. Then I started working on optimizing the run.

For me, this a slight build tweak:
SF, Death's Charge, Dark Escape (a "long" speed boost), Glyph of Ele Power, Sliver, Intensity, Radiation, "Freebie Blast Skill or Air of Superior".

Zone in, dark escape run to shrine attendant. Run down to the cave. Move into the cave as close as I can without setting aggro. By now Dark Escape is recharged. Start aggro, pop Shadow Form, Pop Speed Boost, run a small curve in the cave to pick up as MANY nestlings as possible (in a few seconds), then death's charge to Broodmother. Glyph, Sliver, Intensity, and keep moving close to the broodmother. Also, staff her once so she wont' run if she gets targetted. You NEED her to die. Her death resets the Shadowform. If you die, the run isn't quite as good, but still decent, just repeat the above steps.

Once SF resets from broodmother death, cast immediately, and also cast a radiation field. Recast radiation field again before your SF wears off. Also recast glyph, sliver, and intensity when they are nearing their end.

Final note - I think bouncing is NOT the most efficient in this case. Shrine is so close, just die. use the bouncing skill slots for more useful farming skills. SF has a long recharge no matter what you do (death or bounce). So just die, and while you run down, your SF will be recharged in time for use at the cave entrance.

Results of doing this for about 3 hours:
Typical run was 20+ nestlings + Broodmother dead.
q10 ele sword, q12 ele sword, 10 sin tomes, +30 shield handle, +45 stand handle, 3 q9 greater sage blades, 2 q9 split chakrams (1 was perfect), 2 salvaged 15^50 insc, +10 vs earth, cold, blunt inscriptions, +1/20% master of my domain, 3 lock picks, 2 q9 Great Conchs, 1 q9 savage daggers. 4 Claws of Broodmother. Multiple other merch food items (some of the stuff I listed SHOULD have been merch food, just giving you an idea, in the future i won't salvage some of the +10 armor mods, probably just merch them on the original item). 100k in 3 hours time was decent use of my time.

I'm not the biggest power-farmer, but this was just plain fun (at first anyhow). It was a nice break from 600/smite cathedral runs.

TY TY to the initial poster for this. Very nice, very efficient run. Like others have said before me - try to NOT kill them all at once. This is why I use sliver armor. It strings out the kills 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 dead in about 5 seconds. It's lovely. Good farming to you all.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

I've ran this for 6 hours over the past 2 days and still no ele sword.

However, I got at least 20-30 gold drops (about 5 req 9s) and other merchant junk. I also lucked out and got a req9 Saurian Scythe from a chest in the area (not in the cave). 8 assasin tomes, 5 blue dyes, 4 silver dyes, Tons of Bones and about 5 lock picks yesterday.


ps: its a shame that the Greater Sage Blades dont sell for more. The skin is pretty nice if ya ask me. I have 2 req 9s. I think ill keep one and sell the other, but probably wont get much for it.

tekDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Geez... I wonder why it's hard to sell q9 sage blades?

royal mercenary

royal mercenary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Me/Rt

cause there ugly
still wanting such drop for myself XD

Malaguard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Dark

A/

My opinion:

This farm has single-handedly killed the value of ele swords (of course). It sure was a rush seeing my ele swords drop though (been waiting for months to see that). So nice.

Anyone who buys a q12+ ele sword "clean" for more than 5k is only kidding themselves.
I sold my q12 for 40k, and my q10 for 40k. First was luck, second was kind of luck also. The only reason people pay this much is because they don't know about the real market yet. They "THINK" they are getting a 40k sword. I always act very nice, I want the purchaser to enjoy their item and not feel cheated later. I always say stuff like - "Nice doing business with you. That's a great sword you've purchased, really beautiful skin. Enjoy." Hopefully that will help them feel ok about it later. If this area isn't nerfed, I give ele swords about... 1 more month of value. Then, the market will be saturated and supply > demand, and the price will bottom out. It'll never be merch food (it's a nice looking skin), but the price will be hurt badly. And then this farm will die. It can't hold up to the standard ecto farm over the longterm. (There is no "sink" for ele swords).

This farm will also single-handedly kill the mod prices. It drops a TON of perfect mods. +30 shields, +10 armor, 15^50 inscriptions, +5e inscriptions, 20% longer ench, Zealous, etc. No sink for these items either. Especially now that there are perfect salvage kits.


Broodmother daggers sell quickly at starter island for Factions. (Merch Tip). Couldn't sell them anywhere else in fact. I usually merch for 1k, if the person looks new I may give for free. WAY to many of these in game to have any value. (And they have sucky mod - poison).

On a different note, I usually sell Q9 or Q12 for more than I sell Q10 and Q11 :-).

there's something psychological about the requirement breakpoints. People think in their mind - I want a q9 or a Q12/13. Nobody really cares about the middle ground. I buy a LOT of super cheap q10 and q11 for personal use.

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

I was doing some tests to try and break away from the whole VwK builds and went back to the root of Warrior farming and made this:

Dwarven Stability, Gladiator's Defence, Vial Boon, Mystic Regeneration, Dolyak Signet, Bonnetti's Defense, Sprint, Enraging Charge.

HAve to admit it didn't work out as planned, and only got a few successful runs out of it (they run away far too much)

Metalmaster

Metalmaster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guardians of the Stars

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
ps: its a shame that the Greater Sage Blades dont sell for more. The skin is pretty nice if ya ask me. I have 2 req 9s. I think ill keep one and sell the other, but probably wont get much for it.
Mate, i've started this farm maybe 10 days before it was posted on guru. Dunno how many gold greater sage blades i got since then, but probably about 100. Forget about selling them, 1-2k for req 9 if you are lucky.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malaguard
My opinion:
This farm has single-handedly killed the value of ele swords (of course)...... QFT this whole post ^^

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

The W/Rt build works really fast, maybe that the problem, maybe we need to come up with a build that kills one foe at a time, fast. On a warrior this might be hard.
Anyway, I might try to come up with some other builds, just for fun mostly.

~A Leprechaun~

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalmaster
Forget about selling them, 1-2k for req 9 if you are lucky. I sold 3 gold req 9's for 4k each last night. I didnt have to wait that long, ya just need to know where to find the right buyers.

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

i agree, this has killed ele swords

niek2004

niek2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Afk in Gh.

Old N Dirty[ym] Good Tactics[Good]

P/Rt

do ele swords drop in NM too?

or just HM?

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by niek2004
do ele swords drop in NM too?

or just HM? Yes they drop in normal mode as well. Max damage from the nearby chest, or non-max from the nestlings.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

4 out of 5 chests that I opened in the surrounding area last night were purple drops. The one gold I got was a Cesta death wand. I lost 2 lock picks in the process. I was not a happy farmer.

niek2004

niek2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Afk in Gh.

Old N Dirty[ym] Good Tactics[Good]

P/Rt

i did 14 runs got 1 purp 0 golds. i did it in NM tho..shame i dont have HM gwen yet. how long does completing gwen take?

Ambuu

Ambuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by niek2004
i did 14 runs got 1 purp 0 golds. i did it in NM tho..shame i dont have HM gwen yet. how long does completing gwen take? Less than a day if you work really hard.

broncomania

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

u don't need to finish GW:EN to go HM in GW:EN... U just need a lvl20 character =)

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by broncomania
u don't need to finish GW:EN to go HM in GW:EN... U just need a lvl20 character =) errrrr, I thought it was a lvl 20 characters thats beat at least one of the campaigns. If you haven't beat any of the campaigns with any of your characters, I dont think you can access hard mode in GWEN yet. Come to think of it, I deleted all my characters about a year ago and started over, so none of my new characters beat prophecies, and I only bothered to get my warrior to fire island to cap an elite. I noticed that none of my characters could access hard mode in GWEN until I beat prophecies with at least one character, which I did last week with my warrior, which just happens to be the only tyrian born character I have.

Back on topic. I forgot to mention, but I did get a black dye last night I'm running the surrounding area trying to find other farming spots like this. Im wondering if this is the only spot that has nestlings. Maybe there are other spots with baby dinosaurs that aren't raptors?

monstersparkler

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler
I was doing some tests to try and break away from the whole VwK builds and went back to the root of Warrior farming and made this:

Dwarven Stability, Gladiator's Defence, Vial Boon, Mystic Regeneration, Dolyak Signet, Bonnetti's Defense, Sprint, Enraging Charge.

HAve to admit it didn't work out as planned, and only got a few successful runs out of it (they run away far too much) Tried near enough the same build before using VwK instead, except as W/Mo so you can imagine what it was like, you can take on 1 group at a time alright, pretty slow.

MBP

MBP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Arizona

Clanless Fraggers

R/Mo

A/E or E/A are definately faster.

I kill all 3 groups under 1 minute ideally. I get 8-12 golds per half hour...my IDing character will have level 3 wisdom in no time.