Tweaking Drunkard

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

As I sloooooooooooooowly progress through the drunkard title I was thinking of a few things that would make it a little less tedious.

1. Increase the level of drunkenness to levels above 5. Maybe to 10 or 15 since there are different drinks that can give you 5 levels of drunkenness. This would make it so that you don't have to click on another ale ever minute or two to keep the title going, but maybe every five minutes drink another five ales. Best case scenario, in my judgment, would be to have no limit, just drink a lot of ale and then wait, and wait, and wait for it to where off before you can go do something else.

2. To complement that, a little box could be displayed in the top left of the screen, like sweet tooth does, with say a mug of ale and a number saying what level of drunkenness you are on. This would make it so that you don't have to stare at your hero panel all the time and hope you don't forget what the last number was to keep you drunk enough to work on the title and not waste money (that this title costs a lot of).

3. I would be reminisce not to mention making it like sweet tooth where it is 10,000 points instead of minutes, but that would be grossly unfair to the people who actually did stare at a swirling screen for 16 days.

The first two would still make you sit at the computer for 16 days drinking ale, but make it so that you don't have to have your attention focused on keeping your drunkenness up. The third, as nice as it would be, would be unfair to people that already did it because of the less money needed and a lot less time, but it never hurts to put it out there.

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

/signed

P.S. YAY im first to post :P

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

signed... who cares for the others, would i've had done it with 1 chara still, I would grant other players this overall improvement, because all my other x characters of my account, wqhich have not the title would also have then a benefit from that change ... so its far more a win win, then anyhow an unfair loss ...

so who cares for people, which still have the titlwe maxed...wow, they had to stare for 16 days at the pc ...had someone forced them to do it ?
Also you doesn#t get forced to drink only in towns and sit around ..you can work on that title also, while you play normally ... and even have a little benefit through it, due to dwarven skills, which are better, when u are drunk

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
signed... who cares for the others,


hrmz, I almost signed this, but who cares for the others.. ey. so no!

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

/signed.


Like that dude said, screw the others. If they waste 1,000 minutes of their life being fakely drunk, then they really need a kick in the groin and to learn how to live a life. I hardly have 1,000 minutes and I've beaten every campaign + EotN, have 4 million exp... the list goes on.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

/signed and give the others something else to make up for it. like the drunk guy you fight in factions as a mini. I love that quest. Lets send 8 people heavily armed and able to cast spells to kick the teeth out of some stupid drunk warrior!

~the rat~

Crowell The Fallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Know Your Enemy [PMS]

Mo/

Ya, sweet tooth title put drunkard to shame. It NEEDS to be changed. It is just stupid otherwise.

TaCktiX

TaCktiX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Order of Chaos Reborn [ToC]

/Signed

And as for the stipulation that #3 would irritate those who are already Incorrigible? No. I got the now-equivalent of Legendary Skill Hunter (Elite Skill Hunter) when there was no maxed title for it, no really big cool reward. I also finished getting Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer after the arenas were inaccessible but before they got removed from the map. Tell me about scraping. I do not begrudge any of the people who've gotten an "easier time" or "a knowledge of reward" before going for those two titles, so I daresay anyone should hate on an edit to the Drunkard title to make sense.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Another make a title easier thread?

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

I vote for an icon at least that shows drunk level so you dont have to sit there like an automoton staring at a watch for days on end. Drunkard is so asanine without an icon, and arguably still asanine with an icon, just marginally less so.

/signed

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
Another make a title easier thread?

Nope, another "I don't wanna waste 1,000 minutes looking at my screen thread"


Big difference.

x-stunt-x

x-stunt-x

Banned

Join Date: May 2007

USA

death strikers

W/Mo

just do quest and missions drunk thats how i pass the time with this title

Kraken The Mad

Kraken The Mad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Walking Dudes

A/

/signed^infinity

I find it odd that to get this title, anet makes you stay in one place doing absolutly nothing but clicking 2 times a minute for 16 days. make it like sweet tooth, 1 point/drink. but have you become drunk to allow for the dwarf skills. Also make it that if you drink less than 3 at a time you get no points. (firewaters, and spiked egnogs give more points)

Eragon of Aleria

Eragon of Aleria

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

None other than OHIO

The Pig Pen

N/

Very excellent ideas here, I too wish to speeeeeeeed this proccess up, soooo looong..... I agree with wetsparks about the increased "potency" of drinks so as to speed up the proccess. But wouldn't this just be a show of how rich someone is by buying titles; thats the only problem I foresee. Excellent topic!

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Would be nice...at least we wouldn't have to waste 16 hours and 40 minutes watching the screen...

/signed

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

I would sign but...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10108169

So yea, I'm gonna have to say; I really don't care.

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Yes, that little gimmick does make drunkard go faster, but it also makes it cost a hell of a lot more money.
Quote:
Originally Posted by From Binge Drinking Page
Q: How much alcohol do I need to reach Drunkard/IAH?
A: If you're using Spiked Eggnog, you need 334 for Drunkard and 3,334 for IAH. If you're using regular ale, you need 1,667 for Drunkard and 16,667 for IAH.

Q: That's a [explitive deleted] huge amount of alcohol! Isn't that going to cost a fortune? How much did it cost you?
A: Yes, unfortunately acquiring all the alcohol needed for this title can cost a great deal. If you don't have the cash, your best bet is to do what I did: Wait until Wintersday and farm your fanny off. You can lessen the farming you'll need to do by spending the time between now and then looking for cheap alcohol being sold by other players.
That is a 66.7% increase in the amount of alcohol needed. Before the loot scaling nerf, that would suck, but doable. With loot scaling, less money from farming, value of lots of items gone down, makes it a lot harder to get the money for that much extra ale.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

I would be happy with an icon. that way you could turn of the wavey screen and do it during quests and such this would save time. What do u think wetsparks?

~the rat~

Kiasyd117

Kiasyd117

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Chantilly, VA

Summit Soldiers [SS]

N/Rt

pfffft, I'm sorry but I can't believe that usable thread space is being wasted on discussions about pointless money sink titles.

/notsigned

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiasyd117
pfffft, I'm sorry but I can't believe that usable thread space is being wasted on discussions about pointless money sink titles.

/notsigned
Its a title, people work for it, its part of the game. If you have nothing actually useful to say why bother posting. All title and I mean ALL titles are pointless over all. All the games can be completed with out any of them but people still work on them. Because they enjoy it.

~the rat~

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by legion_rat
I would be happy with an icon. that way you could turn of the wavey screen and do it during quests and such this would save time. What do u think wetsparks?

~the rat~
That would be a good reason to have the icon in the corner of the screen. I tried questing while drunk one time and I couldn't ever remember to keep drinking. I got preoccupied with things like killing the enemies before they kill me.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

/signed

minutes -> points (and doesnt make to title cheaper )

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by x-stunt-x
just do quest and missions drunk thats how i pass the time with this title
Same here. You'd be surprised how quickly you get the level 1 title, especially in GW:EN where many of the PvE only skills are linked to being drunk.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
minutes -> points (and doesnt make to title cheaper )
QFT, I'm an avid title hunter but right now even if I had millions of gold to spend I wouldn't get IAH. It takes too long and the "window of opportunity" trick seems pretty complicated. If it were just buy then click ~10,000 times I could deal with it. As long as the same amount of alcohol is needed then what's the problem?

/signed.

Cain El Noir

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Norway

Soul Of Destruction [SoD]

Mo/

I say lets not change anything; amount of alcohol needed, minutes to points etc. Can agree that is a rather stupid money sink and time-consuming title of course - but this is what the drunkard title is! Those who get it, shows a enormous dedication to the game, both in money and time spent. Sweet Tooth is a easier title > which means "less" dedication.

BUT! Having to remember the level of drunkness - constantly watching your title increase; is just way beyond beliveable.

For changes to the title itself /unsigned!
For the add of a icon telling the level of drunkness definiatly /SIGNED!

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

most the people i talk to who got the title did one of two things:
exploited the zone bug( which has now been half fixed, makign it unreliable)
or Drunkard Bot
i know very few people who actually did it legit to get IAH.
Say go to point system liek sweet tooth.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

With thanksgiving near, it would give a good reason for us to give 'thanks' while gulping the stuff we got during the event.

Most important: Effect icon.
Secondary: Make it into point system, or increase the time 'buffer' of drinks you got. So you can drink 50 beers and spend 47 minutes drunk.

Currently staying drunk while using skills that benefit from drunk is annoying and sometimes a matter of luck, so you don't lose the drunkenness before using the skills.

Yellow_lid

Yellow_lid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Portland Or, USA

Swint Clan

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by wetsparks
2. To complement that, a little box could be displayed in the top left of the screen, like sweet tooth does, with say a mug of ale and a number saying what level of drunkenness you are on. This would make it so that you don't have to stare at your hero panel all the time and hope you don't forget what the last number was to keep you drunk enough to work on the title and not waste money (that this title costs a lot of).
As I'm Sitting here staring at my character slowly ticking off my drunkard points I thought to myself how nice it would be if there was a little number box in the status area that would tell me JUST how drunk I actually was, that-a-way I would not be wasting my booze. I figure it can't be a completely original idea. So I look it up on the forums and sure enough here it is... along with some other nice little tweaks.
I REALLY like this idea, but I don't think it or any of the others in the forum are likely to be implemented, mainly because GW2 is right around the corner. Anyways.
Kudo's to you for a great idea!

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

I have yet to figure out why your character can apparently consume hundreds of cookies, bottles of soda, candy apples and the equivalent of 16 pies, but god forbid they have more than three or four drinks at a time. That's pretty much the only reason I'm /signing this. :P

It's tedious as hell, but I tend to keep the title track window open (but GOD I'd love a status icon) and drink as I farm rep points in EOTN. I'd so much prefer just chugging this obscene amount of booze I've been holding and adding to for over a year now. :P

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I currently have to go drinking while playing, and it's almost impossible to get to know how much and when I've drank.

Most of the time, the alcohol gets wasted, so it ends up like five times harder than sweet tooth, instead more or less the same.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

way too much titles of GW are imo concepted for way to long effort ..as if Anet would say:

"When you want to reach this title..then you have to play our game for x years and to mutate into a hardcore powergamer...you have to play. to farm.to grind for at least 8 hours per day to be worth the title >.>"

where we are at title change of sweet tooth and drunkard ..

i also think..these 2 titles could resally need more RANKS ..come on..both titles have only 2 ranks oO
how silly is that, when you see. that most all other titles have like 10 ranks...


why can't anet just put more ranks between 1000 and 10000 points (minutes)

something like this for example:

1000
2000
3000
4000
5000
6000
...
10000

and bang those titles would also have 10 ranks...and the players would receive over tiem a better feeling of a raising progess ..

when you have to grind/farm from 1000 to 10000 ..the time needed/spent times feels so endless..but with mork ranks bettween..you have at least the fealing of getting quicker further..when you see. how you rise from rank to rank..ever 1 step nearer to your goal


however. i can sign only again.. that drunkard title needs to be changed from minutes to points.. to take out the stupid time point about this title..so that the player just needs to drink only the alk...but hasn#t t wait for the minutes to be counted


Example:

1000 I love Alcohol
2000 Where's my Whisky?
3000 A Treasure for Rum ..Yoho
4000 Wotka for Life
5000 Gimme Ouzo!!
6000 Beer oh lovely Beer HURRAH
7000 One Jägermeister for me please
8000 Wow crazy these Cocktails
9000 Nothing is better, than an ancient Wine
10000 I sold my Soul for Alcohol

and something similar funny for Sweettooth then ....

ThienThan

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiasyd117
pfffft, I'm sorry but I can't believe that usable thread space is being wasted on discussions about pointless money sink titles.

/notsigned
LMAO! You dont have money to go for this title does not mean its useless HA Ha ha....!!!

Yes I agree that drunkard title should be changed

/sign

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

defintly signed, because for like the sweet tooth title you get money and u already got ur title just keep clicking but drunkard...u get a headache after watching ur freaking screen going through that warp thing

Lydz

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

Amen that warp thing literally hurts my head.

/signed

Qwertyfied

Qwertyfied

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ireland

DVDF

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lydz
Amen that warp thing literally hurts my head.

/signed
Turn of post processing effects, it then dosn't show the drunken effect. As for the suggestions, i guess they would be good, but im on 7'000 from just drinking while playing, which includes vanquishing, and dungeons. So its a not-signed from me.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Yup... let's have a briefing:

- Either increase by item consumption just like sweet tooth or have a higher buffer, so you can use more beberages at the same time without having to check it every single minute. In real life, you drink some time and get drunk for a whole while.
- Effect icon. So people that can't paly with Post-processing can know if hey are drunk or not. Specially if the effect icon has a 'timer' bar.
- More ranks, without increasing the max. It could be, at least:
* 1,000.
* 3,000.
* 6,000.
*10,000

I want to add one more:
- Make a change like the gladiator, doubling the points for those that already have some, so the title works just like the sweet tooth:
* 1,000.
* 2,000.
* 5,000.
* 9,000.
* 14,000.
* 20,000.

That should make the title... eh... how do you say that... 'consistent'.

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Breathalizer ftw! Tihark mission would be off the charts drunkness...

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

I am currently doing the drunkard title the good old hard way and i am not signing this because like already mentioned you can getting it by just playing the game, doing quests missions, vanquishing areas. and come on 167 hours isnt that long for a title.

/notsinged

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

167 HOURS isn't that long for a title?!?! What one title (not including pvp) takes that long? Including the part where it is 167 hours of doing it and farming the money for it.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
I am currently doing the drunkard title the good old hard way and i am not signing this because like already mentioned you can getting it by just playing the game, doing quests missions, vanquishing areas. and come on 167 hours isnt that long for a title.

/notsinged
when you have to permanently double click an item every x minutes over these 167 hours..than those 167 hours feel like 167000 hours ...

thats a thing..which can easily changed by making out of minutes just points and this change would make the whole title also alot lesser annoying .... and time consuming at all


the only thign what would be left..what is really enough is the "cost factor" of this gold sink title ... what other is this title not ...

this title requires no skill ... it requires atm only lots of senseless time and huge amounts of gold..as long you receive all your alcohol over time not by other ways that cost you no money at all. like zaishen keys ..

would require still 3334 zaishen keys. which have to drop for you firewaters to reach the 10000 Minutes after 10k minutes oO


but get first so much zaishen keys ..3334*5000 Balth Points = 16670000 Balthazar faction points...so 16,67 Million Balthazar Points ...

wtf should ever reach so much ????

Hmm...let us think of someone..who plays at xunlai bids and gets every month 50 points --that are 10 Zaishen-K ...

that would be 333,4 Months of taking part on the xunlai bids..or 27,78 YEARS !!!

so this is sure no way.. so you have to farm for gold to buy you so much alcohol as you can. u have to use every way ingame to gather as much as ascohol together..as you can..just to reduce the time effort as much as possible and then you want still..that the player has to waste f.ucking time..for minutes..until the drunk alscohol will count for the title finally ?

thats ridiculous ...


sweettooth title lets us also not wait for minutes..until the character has chewed the sweets x thousands of times..before it will finally swallow the stuff down >.<

god damn it ...

is it really wished too muhc to change this stupid title from minutes into points ? just to make it lesser annoying and more fun at all ?