Mostly its a guild problem imho. Not denying the All-channel insulting between teams I have of course seen, which itself is really quite sad, but that isnt within the guild. You might get upset from time to time, you might argue with another guild member, but you dont go swearing at a guild member on vent. That person should have been kicked. Doesnt matter who they are. Possible then your friend may not have quit had it been handled within the guild (though I cant make assumptions). I likely wouldnt stay with that guild myself had that happened. Having gotten to r10 I am sure as a monk she experienced some grief before. Having a little thicker skin is one thing, but some things go over the line. She likely enjoyed that group and did not wish to start over in another guild, so quit instead. When my old guild disbanded I quit for quite some time, for good I thought, so its really understandable to me, though sorry to hear the story.
This is why I dont PvP. I really dont need that from a game. Real life has enough of that.
This is just lame
Aera Lure
CyberMesh0
People can (and always will) be stuck-up ignorant morons. Especially people who blame the monk for their own inadequacies.
Domino
first off, you play with the PvP kiddies and you're going to run into assholes - that's just all there is to it. No ifs or buts.
Secondly, if your skin isn't thick enough to handle some idiot kids on a Vent channel, you probably shouldn't be on the internet at all... let alone playing a game like this. I hate to say it but it's really true.
I'm really trying to care here... but this whole thing just reeks of OMG*DRAMA*, but whatever.
Secondly, if your skin isn't thick enough to handle some idiot kids on a Vent channel, you probably shouldn't be on the internet at all... let alone playing a game like this. I hate to say it but it's really true.
I'm really trying to care here... but this whole thing just reeks of OMG*DRAMA*, but whatever.
Zeek Aran
*read up until 'very strong words to insulted her'*
Welcome to the internet. We hope you enjoy your stay.
Oh, and I really hope english isn't your first language.
Welcome to the internet. We hope you enjoy your stay.
Oh, and I really hope english isn't your first language.
Kusandaa
I don't like the attitude. PvP players take it way too seriously, and their general attitude towards the PvEers is horrible. The anonymity of the net (even on vent in some cases) can lead to that kinda stuff. Never in my life I'd go nuts at someone like this over vent via a single loss. I've overcome losses in PvE as well and I've never blown up at anyone like this... seen stuff close, but y'know. Never at a point that made me want to quit this game.
Aera Lure
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I agree with you in general though, there's no escaping it completely. You're definitely right.
GourangaPizza
Maybe she quits 'cus the the guy who sweared on vent has an ugly voice and it broke her speakers?
Ok I fail at this joke.
Ok I fail at this joke.
undeadgun
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so what you are saying is that people are on internet have no respect to others? ..............
Malice Black
Bingo! you have won the jackpot!
You're either a wolf or a sheep. Choose your side.
You're either a wolf or a sheep. Choose your side.
Zeek Aran
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Aera Lure
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so what you are saying is that people are on internet have no respect to others? ..............
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Chicken Ftw
Bah. Guild drama and vent rage are the best parts of GW's PvP.
Oukanna
I have witnessed this crappy behaviour -_-
I decided i wanted to get into HA, because i seen the observation videos and it looked challenging and fun! i thought a couple of guildies and I could go check it out and learn....We went there...it took us ages to get a team because we had no ranks already so they called us noobs -_- We had one person with about rank 6 i think, he was like ok do these builds it helps so we followed (to learn an all that) when we got in there we got passed the first round lol then got half wiped in the second....he sorta just said you guys are idiots and left.
I know we arent idiots, but we are new. No patience anymore :-(
I have been there a few times by myself trying to find a team, but alas i dont get anywhere because i dont have a rank. I find it funny how people auto assume that you are a crap players because you dont have a rank yet.
I mean come on think......i cant map into HA then *ping* rank 10. -_-
I decided i wanted to get into HA, because i seen the observation videos and it looked challenging and fun! i thought a couple of guildies and I could go check it out and learn....We went there...it took us ages to get a team because we had no ranks already so they called us noobs -_- We had one person with about rank 6 i think, he was like ok do these builds it helps so we followed (to learn an all that) when we got in there we got passed the first round lol then got half wiped in the second....he sorta just said you guys are idiots and left.
I know we arent idiots, but we are new. No patience anymore :-(
I have been there a few times by myself trying to find a team, but alas i dont get anywhere because i dont have a rank. I find it funny how people auto assume that you are a crap players because you dont have a rank yet.
I mean come on think......i cant map into HA then *ping* rank 10. -_-
Malice Black
GW PvP is killing itself.
Darkobra
If there's one thing these idiots should learn, it's "Never anger the person who holds your life in their hands." Hehehe... The days of my monk and warriors....
chowmein69
many people are mean in this game .
ax mastery
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Avarre
It's not a good team unless there is some bitching going on. It keeps people doing their jobs, especially in a PuG setting like HA.
Get used to it. If you're playing your role well, you won't get complaints. If you still do, then most likely it's the one complaining who is horrible and is trying to scapegoat, at which point you need to suck it up, tell them to piss off and stop being bad, and/or rage.
If you take anything said on the Internet seriously then you don't have much place calling other people 'immature'. There are limits, of course, and when they're crossed you leave the group and make a mental note that whatever person you ran into isn't worth grouping with again.
Get used to it. If you're playing your role well, you won't get complaints. If you still do, then most likely it's the one complaining who is horrible and is trying to scapegoat, at which point you need to suck it up, tell them to piss off and stop being bad, and/or rage.
If you take anything said on the Internet seriously then you don't have much place calling other people 'immature'. There are limits, of course, and when they're crossed you leave the group and make a mental note that whatever person you ran into isn't worth grouping with again.
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If I call you names and curse to your face, you can then proceed to punch my nose - and rightly so. Across the Internet any little geek can be a big tough-guy and say what he wants whilst enjoying the safety and security of wires and pixels.
Kusandaa
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It's not a good team unless there is some bitching going on. It keeps people doing their jobs.
Get used to it. If you're playing your role well, you won't get complaints. If you still do, then most likely it's the one complaining who is horrible and is trying to scapegoat, at which point you need to suck it up, tell them to piss off and stop being bad, and/or rage. If you take anything said on the Internet seriously then you don't have much place calling other people 'immature'. |
As I've witnessed beforehand (guildie raging at everyone) people have their bad day, but still, you're in a group. Act like you should and there won't be any problems; can be said on both sides. Sometimes you gotta let stuff roll on your back and stop taking stuff too seriously, sometimes it's YOU who have to watch your own acts.
Alias_X
I can quit whenever I want.
No really, I can.
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No really, I can.
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leprekan
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Sounds like he/she had a better than usual pvp experience if he/she just now ran into them. Rage quit and ignorance is one of the first skills most in pvp learn. Even if you only went with friends the entire time .. there is always one ass on the other team.
warcrap
you should of reported the guy who said that to you or keep urging your friend to come back and put that jerk on ignore.
Shadowfox1125
I just got my first fame after 30 months of play. We only went to HA because we couldn't get matched with a team for GvG.
HA and PvP in general has always been this way. It shouldn't take a PvE(mainly) player like me to tell you that.
She'll be back, I promise you. She'll just refuse to play with that person. Support her, talk to her, whatever.
HA and PvP in general has always been this way. It shouldn't take a PvE(mainly) player like me to tell you that.
She'll be back, I promise you. She'll just refuse to play with that person. Support her, talk to her, whatever.
undeadgun
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I just got my first fame after 30 months of play. We only went to HA because we couldn't get matched with a team for GvG.
HA and PvP in general has always been this way. It shouldn't take a PvE(mainly) player like me to tell you that. She'll be back, I promise you. She'll just refuse to play with that person. Support her, talk to her, whatever. |
leprekan
To those saying grow thicker skin .. sorry but this is one of the worst pvp games I have played. If you acted the way many do in gw in a real pvp gaming league you would get a hardware ban .. where you could then act all leet by yourself since you couldn't play in league again. Before you go there .. I hit rank 10 long ago. Saw more than my fair share of retards in that time.
I used to think CAL/CPL and TWL etc were harsh on their policy till I played gw and saw the wild west version of pvp. Anet should make some kind of effort to clean up the mess they call pvp. Yes the /report was a start but they need to be a tad more proactive. Basic good sportsmanship should not only be expected .. but enforced when needed.
I used to think CAL/CPL and TWL etc were harsh on their policy till I played gw and saw the wild west version of pvp. Anet should make some kind of effort to clean up the mess they call pvp. Yes the /report was a start but they need to be a tad more proactive. Basic good sportsmanship should not only be expected .. but enforced when needed.
Domino
part of it is also taking criticism... I don't know the circumstances in this particular incident, but if she was doing something stupid and someone called her on it, well then that's just business... don't hate people for looking out for their interests.
Crom The Pale
I rarely play PvP, but just the other day I did a little RA just for fun.
After we won our first match on guy told our monk he had a crappy build and mapped out.
I can only imagine what would have been said had we lost..........
PvP players seam way to uptight, very little fun at all to play with.
After we won our first match on guy told our monk he had a crappy build and mapped out.
I can only imagine what would have been said had we lost..........
PvP players seam way to uptight, very little fun at all to play with.
MrSlayer
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Today, one of my best friend, a really nice girl has quitted GWs. Why? Because some people that she known before have changed. She is a PvP fan, HA everyday with guildes and friends, however, today, 1 of her friend in group used some very strong words to insulted her, and blaming her that she have caused the game lost(she was playing monk). 1st of all, not only she is a very good HAer(r10), but also she is a very nice person to play with.(i ve never heard any bad words from her EVER since we met almost a year and half ago). 2nd of all, she is that kind person that will never rage a group or blaming people for losing a match. Sadly, today she got stunded by her own friend, blaming, f words, all over the vent... she then decited to quit this game, she asked me just one question: why undead? why people in HA changed? why they have to be so mean to me? i dont know what should i answear her....
This was the story, very sad, but it is true. and from my personal experince, i have noticed this /rage, blaming, very inmature languages around HA lately as well. i mean, why do some people have to be a total jerk in this game? it is just a freaken game.... you dont have to yell at people in vent to release your angry, find a wall and knock your head on it already. i miss old days really, no blame no rage, people play togather happily, if lost, sure, lets go again. where have those days go? HA has been illness for awhile now, low rank or no rank people never get a group, if they ever do get a group, either running zergway or sway crap like that. how do they improve their game play skills by playing those lame builds over and over? sigh..... nothing i can really do, i rant too much today, i am sorry if this post hurt some of you, but i really do want to tell some truth of the current stats in HA |
heavyduty
I notice certain things with veteran pvp'ers that I know. They can't accept the fact that there are new players that are better than them. All I hear from those with rank6+ are how it used to be so nice back in the day where most of the good pvp'ers knew each other, whos who and nub this, nub that.
To sum it up, with so many new players in pvp (anet made it more enticing than before) they pretty much cant steamroll through everything and a lot of them grew bitter and are more rage prone.
Secondly, I equally dislike those that casually play the game and assume people that worked on their goals for so long (a lot of people have 2+ years time spent on their account) should feel the same, that its only a game and it should all be candyland and cakes.
Anyone that worked hard on something will feel threatened and angry if trivial or underestimated factors contributes to their loss. This is frequently casual players that join the group, refuse to be competitive and play in a nonchalant way.
Face it, pvp, mmo and physical sports are pretty much alike. If you refuse to be a team player and endure rigorous practice to be competitive, don't burden a group of people that want to win hard because your stubborn and selfish ideals tell you that its only a game and you should have fun even at the expense of others.
To sum it up, with so many new players in pvp (anet made it more enticing than before) they pretty much cant steamroll through everything and a lot of them grew bitter and are more rage prone.
Secondly, I equally dislike those that casually play the game and assume people that worked on their goals for so long (a lot of people have 2+ years time spent on their account) should feel the same, that its only a game and it should all be candyland and cakes.
Anyone that worked hard on something will feel threatened and angry if trivial or underestimated factors contributes to their loss. This is frequently casual players that join the group, refuse to be competitive and play in a nonchalant way.
Face it, pvp, mmo and physical sports are pretty much alike. If you refuse to be a team player and endure rigorous practice to be competitive, don't burden a group of people that want to win hard because your stubborn and selfish ideals tell you that its only a game and you should have fun even at the expense of others.
Aera Lure
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i really hope so too, i talked to her on MSN last night afterwards, i dont think she plan on coming back soon
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I should become a psychologist.
Servant of Kali
If she's REALLY your friend, I'm sure you can improve quality time and talk to her on MSN or something. Much better than repetitively grinding fame in HA, which you were doing till now.
{IceFire}
This person got to r10 without seeing that HA and most of gw pvp in general is full of assholes? Right
HawkofStorms
So... she meet a jerk and is quiting the game. How is that the game's fault?
aapo
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What's with the font by the way?
reverse_oreo
I will say this again, and again, and again. THIS IS THE INTERNET. If you cant deal with people yelling at you, or insulting you, please get off and stop using my bandwidth
ensoriki
How can you quit GW forever??
You payed 50 dollars (x3/4)
No subscription so you can come back whenever.
I "quit" for 3 months...came back...went okay.... quit 2 months later came back.
As long as I payed for the damn thing, Ill come back whenever I feel like it.
Tell her to join a new guild thingy then...and run off with her...and have kids!
You payed 50 dollars (x3/4)
No subscription so you can come back whenever.
I "quit" for 3 months...came back...went okay.... quit 2 months later came back.
As long as I payed for the damn thing, Ill come back whenever I feel like it.
Tell her to join a new guild thingy then...and run off with her...and have kids!
Chris Blackstar
you have to roll with the punches or find a new game, like me.. I have had enough of GW, time to start playing something new like everyone else, including IZZY and the rest of the Anet staff.
The Meth
Not meaning to bash your friend, but how do you make it to r10 and not learn how to deal with these people? The fact is, there are a great many people in guild wars with a shitty attitude and 1 thread isn't going to make them any more bearable. If you can't ignore people who make it their mission to be complete assholes then the internet is not for you. I am honestly sorry that your friend was so affected by this but that's the way the world is, both online and in life.