Profession based swords...

S Burchette

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Christian Warlords

Me/E

example,
"Mesmer's Edge"
Chaos Damage 11-22 (Domination, Inspiration,or illusion req.)
(Various stats)


Or,

Monk's Saber
Holy Damage 11-22 (Smiting, Protecting, or healing prayers req.)
(Various stats)

get what im saying?

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

maybe if it still functioned as a staff/wand..because no squishy should be in melee range. Its only purpose would be for looks.

S Burchette

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Christian Warlords

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
maybe if it still functioned as a staff/wand..because no squishy should be in melee range. Its only purpose would be for looks.
they would look pretty good though wouldnt they?

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

I want a melee Wand and Staff for my Warrior then. Fair's fair.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

I like this idea. I would also like a scythe that works like a necro staff. Just simply taking the models/skins of other weapons and making them function like wands and staves (since we have very few caster skins as it is).

EDIT:
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy diamond
I want a melee Wand and Staff for my Warrior then. Fair's fair.
Sounds cool, too. A blunt wand-like mace that operates like the jitte, and a hammer-class weapon that looks like a staff for bludgeoning things in style. Nice!

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
(since we have very few caster skins as it is).
There's a ton of them. They're just divided by caster type. Any sword works for any Warrior, but certain Wand/Stave styles are only available to each caster class, and on top of that are dependant on what attribute you've raised.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy diamond
There's a ton of them. They're just divided by caster type. Any sword works for any Warrior, but certain Wand/Stave styles are only available to each caster class, and on top of that are dependant on what attribute you've raised.
And all of those divided by the 5 caster classes. Compared to what all of the other classes have, that is severely limited.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Just recycle weapon models in place of a staff, wand, or focus item, and call it a day.

Scythes would be awesome necro staves. I could see a sword that shoots as well.

What would be really cool would be to also do the same w/ bows, but instead of the regular normal attack animation, have the character actually draw & fire the bow - but instead of an arrow, have the little globe fly out...

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy diamond
There's a ton of them. They're just divided by caster type. Any sword works for any Warrior, but certain Wand/Stave styles are only available to each caster class, and on top of that are dependant on what attribute you've raised.
I think the point is that *only* warriors can effectively use swords, yet look how many skins there are for them. At the same time, while there are a lot of wand/staff/focus item skins, there aren't 5 times as many skins for them.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
I think the point is that *only* warriors can effectively use swords, yet look how many skins there are for them. At the same time, while there are a lot of wand/staff/focus item skins, there aren't 5 times as many skins for them.
Exactly. Besides, more options for customization is never a bad thing, especially if the art is already in the game. This idea only requires a bit of a code tweak, not a rework of the entire system or anything.

Golden Phoenix Blade -> Golden Phoenix Wand: Same skin, different functionality.
Destroyer Staff -> Destroyer Battlestaff
Platinum Longbow -> Platinum Magic Bow (or whatever)

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
And all of those divided by the 5 caster classes. Compared to what all of the other classes have, that is severely limited.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
I think the point is that *only* warriors can effectively use swords, yet look how many skins there are for them. At the same time, while there are a lot of wand/staff/focus item skins, there aren't 5 times as many skins for them.
All you guys did was repeat exactly what I said.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy diamond
All you guys did was repeat exactly what I said.
There are less caster weapons over all 5 classes than there are for just the warrior weapons alone. That is the point. It deserved repeating and clarification.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
It deserved repeating and clarification.
That's what I did.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

i shudder to think how much DPS a monk can add with a healing based sword, while running 14 in healing (which isn't all that rare).

nifty idea, but the impact on game balance is much to severe.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
i shudder to think how much DPS a monk can add with a healing based sword, while running 14 in healing (which isn't all that rare).

nifty idea, but the impact on game balance is much to severe.
If it plays just like any other healing wand it wouldn't affect game balance whatsoever.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

so the sword does not scale it's damage upward based on spec like a normal sword?

hmm, i guess it would be alright then.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
so the sword does not scale it's damage upward based on spec like a normal sword?

hmm, i guess it would be alright then.
not at all, this is a suggestion to make basically sword-skinned wands. I just added to it, but that is the essence of this suggestion (at least I'm pretty sure - OP to clarify?).

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
not at all, this is a suggestion to make basically sword-skinned wands. I just added to it, but that is the essence of this suggestion (at least I'm pretty sure - OP to clarify?).
Umm no that isn't at all what the OP is suggesting... I think. I mean, if he just wants new skins... well, everybody wants new skins. That's like asking "would you like more storage?" Its a loaded question.
However, going on what he is saying, that he actually wants SWORDS, I'm going to /notsign (for balance issues). If that isn't what the OP is suggesting... then its not really much of a suggestion anyway.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Umm no that isn't at all what the OP is suggesting... I think. I mean, if he just wants new skins... well, everybody wants new skins. That's like asking "would you like more storage?" Its a loaded question.
However, going on what he is saying, that he actually wants SWORDS, I'm going to /notsign (for balance issues). If that isn't what the OP is suggesting... then its not really much of a suggestion anyway.
I don't think so based purely on the fact that he put the damage (with requirement) just as it is on wands/staves. And it's not "new skins," it's using old skins that are already in the game (I guess), just making it so they have a caster counterpart - a sword that acts as a wand.

Again, this needs clarification from the OP, but what I'm posting is what I'm /signing to. If it were any different, I definitely wouldn't /sign that for, as you say, balance issues.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

ill put 10 healing on my warrior and use a healing sword to pound holy damage on you in pvp
\notsigned

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M
ill put 10 healing on my warrior and use a healing sword to pound holy damage on you in pvp
\notsigned
They are still wands you know(swords that fire projectiles) so you couldn't sever,gash,final thrust anyone with holy damage.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

How about Holy/Dark/Chaos damage Sword hilts etc.....of course they should be available for all other martial weapons. Thoughts?

I'm wielding a Holy Crystalline Sword Of fortitude! Already got the picture

- Ganni

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

/Signed as long as i can get a FC/insp req Rapier which should have been added in prophecies a long tiem ago

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I agre with something like a club, a quarterstaff, a knuckle or a gauntlet, But not Swords. Swords are Warrior stuff.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

The problem with wands now is that they have a stupidly low crit rate. If they functioned like normal weapons and scaled slightly with more healing prayers/fire magic/illusion/etc etc, it might be worth shooting those little orbs around.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Wands that look like scythes and hammers? Swords that resemble staves?

Hell yes. I'm all about the variety and customization.

/signed.

Cosmic Error

Cosmic Error

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

In front of the computer

Shadow of the Betrayed [Nyth]

N/Rt

I like this idea, but it might be confusing if you're a warrior and try to use a Ritualist Katana, or whatever, only to find that it's a wand...

Oh, well.

/signed

Blu

Blu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Michigan

Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

R/

I believe this is for caster weapons but I don't really see a point in making these. Next you'd have to make weapons like ranger melee/spear, etc. since they are also commonly used...

It would be nice if they were like a diff. weapon exactly then already existing martial weapons.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

what comes next..profession based shields ?, profession based bows ? profession based focus items ?

>.> silly idea imo...

when you want to have a character that fights with swords..make you a warrior..so simple is that...

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

ya the holy damage/chaos dmg etc. wouldbe pretty overpowered when put onto a melee character.

A warrior running around with a damage type not many have defence against = pwnage

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M
ill put 10 healing on my warrior and use a healing sword to pound holy damage on you in pvp
\notsigned
/agreed with quoted poster

/notsigned to OP

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There should be 5 caster equipables:
- Wand (ranged, one handed)
- Staff (ranged, two handed)
- Quarterstaff (melee, two handed)
- Scepter (melee, one handed)
- Focus (off-hand)

We have 3 of those.

Remember the Hammers faking quarterstaves the Bandits and Renegades had?
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image:Renegade.jpg
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bandit_Raider

I say we could make those real 'Quarterstaves':
* Maximum damage range: 6 - 27.
* Damage type: Depending on req (caster attributes).
* Attack rate: 1.75 seconds.
* Modifiers: Inscription slot, Quarterstaff Caps (name prefix) and Quarterstaff Wrapping (suffix).

Scepter
* Maximum damage range: 7 - 21.
* Damage type: Depending on req (caster attributes).
* Attack rate: 1.33 seconds.
* Modifiers: Inscription slot, Scepter Pommel (name prefix) and Scepter wrapping (suffix).

The Mesmer rapier would be a 'scepter' looking like a sword and with slashing damage.
A chaos edge could be similar, but with chaos damage.

SpeedyKQ

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

IMO the confusion would outweigh the coolness.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

I think this is a good idea.

after all, casters are already using spears/sword/axe + shield in pvp, so why not make then their own.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Why not just use the ones already in place? It's not like you are using them to fight in melee range...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Don't you think so. When I use Point Black spells with my ele, I use a melee weapon to always be in adjacent range to the enemy. Otherwise I may be casting without being in range:
- Move to enemy, cast, move to enemy, cast.

tork

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ
IMO the confusion would outweigh the coolness.
agreed
i can so see people spamming
why cant i use sever with my sword shaped wand?!
over and over and over...*shudder*

if u just want to reskin ur weps use texmod or something......doesnt make sense to confuse the entire population of wammos out there....

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

So, a sword skinned wand? Me likey.

/signed as long as it still functions as a wand/staff.

NamelessBeauty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M
ill put 10 healing on my warrior and use a healing sword to pound holy damage on you in pvp
\notsigned
Holy dmg isn't armor ignore you know? It's just not either Elemental nor physical. That mean Warrior and Eles won't have advantage. Which most Warrior know well that they should use an Air Sword vs Warrior and Sundering/Vampric Sword vs Ele.

To OP: I don't see the point really. To be honest the wand is better because of range. There won't be any improvement in either PvE/PvP.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

wow this is an epic fail.

/notsigned