Mission Pack open access for ALL. NO WEAPONS
thedeadlyassassin
/unsigned and you should be taken out of your house and shot in the back of the head for thinking it's all about the weapons and that people should get stuff for free that others spent money on out of their own wallet
Ember010
/signed I think.
Bit bored of all these BMP threads now. Its been discussed to death over the past few hours...
Bit bored of all these BMP threads now. Its been discussed to death over the past few hours...
lyra_song
The BMP weapons are customized, promo items. Just like:
* Canthan Targe
* Bone Idol
* Ithas Bow
* Chimeric Prism
* War Pick
* Censor's Icon
* Dragon Fangs
* Spiritbinder
* Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting
* Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter
* Glacial Blade
* Hourglass Staff
* Darksteel Longbow
I find it unreasonable, that people are demanding what equates to reselling a pre-order item.
Would you also demand that Anet resell pre-order keys?
Pre-order keys were free.
They were available for a limited time.
They gave access to some really cool skins.
Im sure lots of people missed their chance at those. I for one, would LOVE to have all of the Prophecies pre-orders, since I'm a bit of a completist. But i know its not gonna happen.
The missions are a different entity.
It is real content. Its new skills. Its new music. New cinemas. It gives insight into characters in Guild Wars history and lore.
This isnt just a bunch of new weapon skins. The content should be available to all.
* Canthan Targe
* Bone Idol
* Ithas Bow
* Chimeric Prism
* War Pick
* Censor's Icon
* Dragon Fangs
* Spiritbinder
* Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting
* Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter
* Glacial Blade
* Hourglass Staff
* Darksteel Longbow
I find it unreasonable, that people are demanding what equates to reselling a pre-order item.
Would you also demand that Anet resell pre-order keys?
Pre-order keys were free.
They were available for a limited time.
They gave access to some really cool skins.
Im sure lots of people missed their chance at those. I for one, would LOVE to have all of the Prophecies pre-orders, since I'm a bit of a completist. But i know its not gonna happen.
The missions are a different entity.
It is real content. Its new skills. Its new music. New cinemas. It gives insight into characters in Guild Wars history and lore.
This isnt just a bunch of new weapon skins. The content should be available to all.
milan
/notsigned
With one exception. Anyone who can prove that there was a valid reason that they couldn't (not wouldn't) buy from the online store during the very large qualifying period should be allowed to access the missions.
With one exception. Anyone who can prove that there was a valid reason that they couldn't (not wouldn't) buy from the online store during the very large qualifying period should be allowed to access the missions.
MithranArkanere
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The BMP weapons are customized, promo items. Just like:
* Canthan Targe * Bone Idol * Ithas Bow * Chimeric Prism * War Pick * Censor's Icon * Dragon Fangs * Spiritbinder * Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting * Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter * Glacial Blade * Hourglass Staff * Darksteel Longbow I find it unreasonable, that people are demanding what equates to reselling a pre-order item. Would you also demand that Anet resell pre-order keys? Pre-order keys were free. They were available for a limited time. They gave access to some really cool skins. Im sure lots of people missed their chance at those. I for one, would LOVE to have all of the Prophecies pre-orders, since I'm a bit of a completist. But i know its not gonna happen. The missions are a different entity. It is real content. Its new skills. Its new music. New cinemas. It gives insight into characters in Guild Wars history and lore. This isnt just a bunch of new weapon skins. The content should be available to all. |
Those new skills can't be learned, they are Temporary skills part of the missions.
The Day of Tengu was not 'items'. And was part of Guild Wars history.
Sorry, but. No.
They have to choose: All content available, or keep limited content limited. Either one or the other. Not partial.
Onarik Amrak
uhh, /notsigned.
If you didn't get it, tough luck.
If you didn't get it, tough luck.
Croco Clouds
I only care about the weapons, the content I don't care.
BenO_Under
Well, more than half the people who want the bonus pack want the weapons that come with it, so if they just release the bonus pack with no weapons not many more people are going to buy it.
/not signed
has to be all or nothing in my opinion
/not signed
has to be all or nothing in my opinion
Lord Natural
It would be a better business decision on their part to allow it as an online purchase for $5-$10. Why would they give it away for free? That would be dumb. It's not a huge update, but obviously time and effort was spent in its design. Anet probably saves a fair bit of cost by selling through the online store, so those of us who received the MBP have already paid our dues, in a manner of speaking.
Pompeyfan
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Buying the BMP from the online store comes totally separately after this - and you guys who did use the limited time offer still come on top, since you got EoTN and BMP for one purchase whereas some people would have to pay twice.
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Mark Nevermiss
Well its bad business practice and Anet are not dumb. They certainly realise that if they compromise on the BMP this time, then the next time they make a similar promotion those customers Anet would otherwise count on to support them would be justifiably reluctant to purchase on the online store, and would unlikely fall for the same trick again.
You can't see me
/Not signed
Releasing unpaid content is unfair to Arenanet.
Releasing unpaid content is unfair to Arenanet.
HayesA
I want, and wanted the BMP for the mission to be honets here. I don't care about weapon skins. Sure I think some are nice, but meh.
I want the story, and that's all. So far, I have been loving the GWs story. I love GWEN, even tho i know some of you don't liek her at all. I want to know MORE!! Knowledge is power, after all.
Weapon skins have no value to me as a player. Sure, they make us look nice whilst in combat, or when we're showing off. But in the end, it means nothing.
I dig the story line. I just wish my bank hadn't blocked the Anet Store like they did.
I want the story, and that's all. So far, I have been loving the GWs story. I love GWEN, even tho i know some of you don't liek her at all. I want to know MORE!! Knowledge is power, after all.
Weapon skins have no value to me as a player. Sure, they make us look nice whilst in combat, or when we're showing off. But in the end, it means nothing.
I dig the story line. I just wish my bank hadn't blocked the Anet Store like they did.
pamelf
I have the BMP, but I wouldn't be against them re-opening the promotion. Especially now that there is a little bit more to purchase on the online store. If the promotion is run again, I personally don't see anything wrong with it.
Jongo River
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I find it unreasonable, that people are demanding what equates to reselling a pre-order item.
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Even so, I've always asked for the pre-order packs to be combined into a new GotYE style weapon pack. They're just so useful. I was thinking of buying a second account recently and the main reason I didn't was that I wouldn't have access to all those pre-order weapons. Since heroes were introduced, those weapons are not simply a bonus, they're a must.
Kahlindra
Either offer the whole thing for sale or re-run the promotion. The company's priority is to make money to keep itself running, not to offer you the total gw lore experience.... I don't care if people get it later, and everyone ends up with it. I would care if it just gets given away- I didn't really want to order GWEN through the store but I did just for this. I think splitting it weapons/missions is just a huge headache, and there would be camps on all the possible whining sides about it.
jrk247
/notsigned.
Anet gave everyone plenty of time to meet the requirements to earn the BMP. If you couldn't somehow meet them in the 2-3 months? they gave us then tough luck.
BTW, people spent money in the in game store for the missions, we didn't know we'd be getting weapons with the pack.
Anet gave everyone plenty of time to meet the requirements to earn the BMP. If you couldn't somehow meet them in the 2-3 months? they gave us then tough luck.
BTW, people spent money in the in game store for the missions, we didn't know we'd be getting weapons with the pack.
Dronte
/notsigned
I only need the cool weps :'(, and I'd pay for them
I only need the cool weps :'(, and I'd pay for them
Cebe
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Anet give us the Mission Pack at no cost. No Bonus.
Which means, you can play the missions. But you cannot get the weapons. |
Seriously, the missions last 20 minutes or so, and there really isn't much to them. They are only worth doing over and over because of the weapons. That's not to say that they're not fun. I enjoy doing Saul and Togo's mission, but after a week or so I can see them just being "meh".
I'm very surprised st the sheer volums of people who are now complaining about not taking ArenaNet up on their promotion. It's sad.
Phoenix Tears
just another thread, that shows, how selfish mankind can be >.>
Fril Estelin
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and that people should get stuff for free that others spent money on out of their own wallet
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Come on people, stop for a minute or two looking at your own gain, you HAVE the BMP now, you enjoy it, you have these great looking weapons. We are reliving great GW moments. Do you want to prevent other people to get access to this? Seriously, stop talking and think about it for a moment, start thinking that may be the people you're talking about (lazy, greedy, blablabla) are not the majority of people. What about the casual player who didn't see the advertisement? And the one who had to stop playing for a little while due to personal circumstance? And the one who tried to get a credit card but couldn't? And the one who... and the one who...?
Once more, I'll ask again: are you ok with preventing other people from getting access to these stories (not the weapons)?
If it's about money for you, then they'll have to pay more. If it's about exclusivity, then they'll only have it (a lot) later. If it's about weapons, they won't have them (or only a very limited number?) If it's about pride, we can't do anything for you!
jrk247
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just another thread, that shows, how selfish mankind can be >.>
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Meat Axe
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Once more, I'll ask again: are you ok with preventing other people from getting access to these stories (not the weapons)?
If it's about money for you, then they'll have to pay more. If it's about exclusivity, then they'll only have it (a lot) later. If it's about weapons, they won't have them (or only a very limited number?) If it's about pride, we can't do anything for you! |
A lot of us made sacrifices to get these missions. Some of us gave up the boxed content and the printed artwork and manuals for the missions. Some people paid for a few character slots they didn't need to get the BMP so that they could still get the boxed content. Some people paid a lot more for EotN than they would have to get the mission pack. I myself sacrificed the boxed content, and I paid $10 more for EotN so that I qualified for the mission pack. Over here in Australia, the RRP was $49.95. Since I live in Australia, the online store charges me in pounds, which meant I paid 24.99 GBP (which is almost $60 AUD).
Now, I don't really care if they offer the BMP at some point in the future from the online store, or offer another promotion. I understand that some people had circumstances that resulted in them not being able to fulfill the previous promotion requirements. I do care if everyone gets access to this content for free, after so many people made sacrifices to qualify. After all, it did state on the press release that this would be exclusive content to that promotion. At least, I take this statement to mean that it is exclusive (or, at least, suggesting enough that I'll want to fulfill the promotion requirements, in case I miss out):
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The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.
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Mineria
http://vnboards.ign.com/Message.aspx...rt=10513 8518
Please read Gaile's reply's in that post.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0226454&page=9
You ask to get it for free while you seem to know the cost of making the missions?
Please read Gaile's reply's in that post.
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This is a thread as the title suggests.
Anet give us the Mission Pack at no cost. No Bonus. Which means, you can play the missions. But you cannot get the weapons. Weapons remain exclusive to those who qualified for the promo. Just like with Pre-order weapons, which are also promos. |
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Because thats the manufacturer's suggested retail price.
And by that, retailers can price it higher or lower. The actual cost to the retailer is much lower, and they mark it up to make a profit. Anet is selling at the full retail in the online store to maximize their profits. |
Marcson
The BMP should be given out (completely, including weapons) for free like they did with the Sorrows Furnace update a while back. It's a good way to overcome the period between GW and GW2.
Personally I like to collect videogames and have a physical box with all the stuff that comes with it. I bought Profecies, Factions CE, Nightfall CE, and GWEN all in a box. Collectors don't need all that digital stuff. At least not me. Thats why I also didn't bought GWEN online with the BMP included. Even if it had the coolest of the coolest features included in the digital download, I just couldn't care less!
I also think that the people who played GW deserve the right to know what happened to Gwen and all the other characters in the GW saga. Now I feel a little like a horse thats was running after a carot and after a while I needed to pay for the carrot...
No thanks, I'd rather stick with my boxed GWEN and have no BMP at all.
Personally I like to collect videogames and have a physical box with all the stuff that comes with it. I bought Profecies, Factions CE, Nightfall CE, and GWEN all in a box. Collectors don't need all that digital stuff. At least not me. Thats why I also didn't bought GWEN online with the BMP included. Even if it had the coolest of the coolest features included in the digital download, I just couldn't care less!
I also think that the people who played GW deserve the right to know what happened to Gwen and all the other characters in the GW saga. Now I feel a little like a horse thats was running after a carot and after a while I needed to pay for the carrot...
No thanks, I'd rather stick with my boxed GWEN and have no BMP at all.
Fril Estelin
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IBelieve it or not, some of us didn't get the BMP for the weapons, but for the extra content.
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By the way, exclusive does not necessarily mean that it is only available from that promotion (I checked the definition in www.askoxford.com), simply that in the time frame decided by Anet this will be the only means of accessing it. (just imagine, for 10 seconds, the frustration of those who honestly try to get the BMP without succcess, and who are reading what's said on this thread ...)
Chris Blackstar
Please give it a rest, they are not going to do it. You people are like spoiled children, you beg and beg hopeing mommy will give you a cookie. Well No means NO, so stop kicking and screaming, and just grow up and deal with it.
Tyla
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The BMP should be given out (completely, including weapons) for free like they did with the Sorrows Furnace update a while back. It's a good way to overcome the period between GW and GW2.
Personally I like to collect videogames and have a physical box with all the stuff that comes with it. I bought Profecies, Factions CE, Nightfall CE, and GWEN all in a box. Collectors don't need all that digital stuff. At least not me. Thats why I also didn't bought GWEN online with the BMP included. Even if it had the coolest of the coolest features included in the digital download, I just couldn't care less! I also think that the people who played GW deserve the right to know what happened to Gwen and all the other characters in the GW saga. Now I feel a little like a horse thats was running after a carot and after a while I needed to pay for the carrot... No thanks, I'd rather stick with my boxed GWEN and have no BMP at all. |
milan
I'd like my free big mac please.
That was last week sir.
So what? They got it last week, so I should have it now.
That was last week sir.
So what? They got it last week, so I should have it now.
genofreek
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I don't care about the rewards.
ONLY the final cutscene between Joko and Ossa makes the whole pack worth it. They advertised it. They say what it would include. They set a really wide period to get it. There are pre-paid credits cards for those that do not have one or are not over 18yo in all countries where GW is available in stores. Allowing further acquisition of the Bonus pack would be like allowing to acquire again preorder or collector stuff. |
If I can't have the holiday hats I've missed, I don't see why people should get another crack at the mission packs. Spiteful? Not really, just being fair.
EDIT: And for those of you whining that you're missing out on the ever-important lore, just check the wiki. The dialogue and stories will be up there in no time, if they aren't already.
MMSDome
/notsigned
i paid for it so i odnt want others to get it for free, unless i get a refund. Why should i have had to pay for something when others got the content for free?
i paid for it so i odnt want others to get it for free, unless i get a refund. Why should i have had to pay for something when others got the content for free?
pumpkin pie
If all other players that did not get the bonus mission pack for free, get it Free now, then my "Free Bonus Mission Pack" will become "Paid Bonus Mission Pack".
But I do agree that the bonus mission pack will now become regular mission pack. and put up for sale in the online store. I think Arena Net did not develop a way to give players mission in a talking book form just for the sake of the bonus mission pack alone, there will be more mission packs hopefully, not letting the well done talking book go to waste.
But I do agree that the bonus mission pack will now become regular mission pack. and put up for sale in the online store. I think Arena Net did not develop a way to give players mission in a talking book form just for the sake of the bonus mission pack alone, there will be more mission packs hopefully, not letting the well done talking book go to waste.
iriyabran
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/notsigned
i paid for it so i odnt want others to get it for free, unless i get a refund. Why should i have had to pay for something when others got the content for free? |
the ones who say noone forced them to buy smth to get the BMP
or the ones who whine that they had to forcefully buy smth just to qualify
and don't reply that noone forced you cause if you do you don't have the right to whine as in the quote in the first place
i don't really care about the bmp anymore
even if it was made available for purchase in the online store i won't be able to get it except they add more payment options
the thing that really disgusted me is how people who got the bmp are so aggressive possessive and selfish posting like mad noone else ever should access this content which by far cannot be compared with the pre orders or collector editions because it has much much much more to it
saw those ugly faces and realised what a rotten comunity this is
and of course i'm let down by arena net that they started separating the player base like that
and PLEEEEEZ don't start biting my ass cause i will only think of all of you as even more pathetic than you look to me right now
oh and if someone wants their box so badly i can send them mine any time
i don't really care about those boxes it's just that the only way i can buy the game is in a store and they sell it with a box
next time i hope you will let me use your credit/debit card
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as many have said noone made you do it
and they didn't state they're not going to make it available after so you have no right to whine if they do too
as for generalising i think i described that part of comunity i called rotten
those who so violently deny the availability of the pack and bash at people who didn't/couldn't get it
i honestly think they should visit a doctor
as for the bmp whatever happens in the end it's all about money
Fril Estelin
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realised what a rotten comunity this is
and PLEEEEEZ don't start biting my ass cause i will only think of all of you as even more pathetic than you look to me right now |
You're generalising, this is only GWG, and even here there's not (that we know of) a vast majority against this. Furthermore, "rotten" is a strong word, that shouldn't be used so easily in a broad context.
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/end of not-biting-ass
street peddler
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i can't decide who's funnier
the ones who say noone forced them to buy smth to get the BMP or the ones who whine that they had to forcefully buy smth just to qualify and don't reply that noone forced you cause if you do you don't have the right to whine as in the quote in the first place i don't really care about the bmp anymore even if it was made available for purchase in the online store i won't be able to get it except they add more payment options the thing that really disgusted me is how people who got the bmp are so aggressive possessive and selfish posting like mad noone else ever should access this content which by far cannot be compared with the pre orders or collector editions because it has much much much more to it saw those ugly faces and realised what a rotten comunity this is and of course i'm let down by arena net that they started separating the player base like that and PLEEEEEZ don't start biting my ass cause i will only think of all of you as even more pathetic than you look to me right now oh and if someone wants their box so badly i can send them mine any time i don't really care about those boxes it's just that the only way i can buy the game is in a store and they sell it with a box next time i hope you will let me use your credit/debit card |
Fril Estelin
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cause it's basically a slap in the face for the people that took the time and the money to get the BMP, we got it and then they just give it away? no, sorry.
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Loviatar
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politely i disagree as you need the full statement from the GW site on this which states that it has to be exactly the account that qualifies during that time period
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By the way, exclusive does not necessarily mean that it is only available from that promotion (I checked the definition in www.askoxford.com), simply that in the time frame decided by Anet this will be the only means of accessing it. |
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The Details The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store. |
genofreek
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BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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2. The amount was what, $29.99 USD? If it takes you more than a couple of months to get together thirty bucks, you have bigger problems than missing out on a GW promo. Even if you're young, which I'm assuming you are, you can ask your parents to either let you use their card or do chores to earn the cash. You can get one of those prepaid cards at grocery stores these days.
3. People aren't being snotty or selfish, so don't get bent out of shape about the community. Compared to other MMO communities out there, GW is one of the most supportive and helpful. We're just explaining why the opportunity's over and trying to get you to understand that it's now as obtainable as a Tengu mask. Nobody's getting any personal satisfaction from having the mission pack while others don't.
iriyabran
you neither know my age nor the state of my family or country
so don't assume bullshit and compare bmp with tengu mask
thank you
so don't assume bullshit and compare bmp with tengu mask
thank you
Thibor
Its called a "promotion" My local food store just did one where if you purchased two 12-packs of pepsi you got a free 2 litre bottle. So what would you do cry that you didn't get a free bottle because you didnt buy the 12 packs? Its a friggin promotion. I did what I had to to get the BMP I WILL be pissed if they make it free for all.