New BMP Title, "Historian"

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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I enjoy the BMP, but what really is the point of dsicovery mode? I think it would be nice to make a title track for the Discoveries. Honestly the extra books when books are unlimited is not a reward IMO. So in addition to the new skin, that look better than the GWEN skins, I think there should be a title or a statue at least.
Of course people will say that this isn't fair to those who didn't get the bonus, well guess what, TITLES ARE NOT FAIR. Look at survivor or LDoA.

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

E/

so you want an easy maxed title for God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

i agree this would be way to easy maybe they could include a hardmode and then maybe you could get that

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

yeah HM BMP would be fun, might need to tweak some things, keeping talon alive the whole mission would be hard. Mostly the discovery mode seem to scream title to me.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

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Originally Posted by iriyabran
so you want an easy maxed title for God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals
wasnt that title easy enough to get - AKA grindfest?
also - to the OP, new titles are ftl.so /notsigned

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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I do like the idea. At least an Statue in the Hall once you have completed them all with discoveries.

I actually kept him alive the whole mission my first try, XD

The hard part is when all those lvl10 tag along. Timing with the healing skill and the rage crucial. Just lucky, I guess.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

The game keeps track of the discoveries you do, so a title or statue would be nice. However, giving an account-wide title or statue for the BMP isn't something Anet would do.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I don't like the idea of giving a title for content that you currently can't get anymore. I have the BMP and I still don't like the idea. Statue maybe, but not a title.

/notsigned

Tarzan Yamada

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

/signed.

this would be a great addition! what does a title really have to do with gameplay anyway? just like the bmp weapon skins. it would just be a fun thing to have a Historian title for completing all 12 discoveries. A monument would be outstanding as well!

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

/notsigned

Titles are suppose to show real accomplishments that are worth noting, having been able to buy stuff on NCstore and just doing some discoveries would add no value to a title like that

Xue Fang

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2007

/notsigned, this would create an uneven battlefield for you credit card ninjas.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Yeah, I think a title would be the wrong way to go, since not everyone can get it. But I think a statue for the HoM would be nice. Or allow us to place the weapons in the HoM. That would make the extra books worth it.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

/notsigned. Hey! Why not just add a max title for completing SF, one for DoA, one for Urgoz, one for Deep, etc. etc. That way we can get the KoaBD title inflation!

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

HM BMP? Are you crazy guys? You can't customize your skillbars and it's a solo thing.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

/notsigned, if you thought the "OMG PLZ GIB ME BMP EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T BUY ANYTHING IN STORE" threads are bad now, just try tacking a pointless title onto it.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

/Not signed.

This is incredibly unfair to the population of Guild wars that could not purchase the BMP because of lack of credit cards or simple lack of cash to throw at a game for minimal content.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
Of course people will say that this isn't fair to those who didn't get the bonus, well guess what, TITLES ARE NOT FAIR. Look at survivor or LDoA.
First, you're correct in saying it's not fair. However, considering that the GW:EN titles are "buyable" titles practically, that's not much of a point.

But more to the point, and the reason for the quote selection, titles like Survivor that takes time and some degree of concentration and LDoA that's just a long haul (I'm still hanging out in pre on one of my characters) are prestigious because of the work involved. PvP max titles are ridiculous in how long they take to get max. PvE grind titles might not require as much/any skill, but take the time to at least do the work.

As yourself - how long does it take to get all 12 discoveries? Yeah. It's a weak title.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

/Point to Drunkard, Sweettooth, and Survivor, yeah survivor is the easiest title there is with tomes, ferries and all the gimmicks.
And why not a least a statue, there are 48 unique weapon skins, which look better than the gwen skins. I don't care for weapon skin.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
/Not signed.

This is incredibly unfair to the population of Guild wars that could not purchase the BMP because of lack of credit cards or simple lack of cash to throw at a game for minimal content.
Neither was losing the opportunity to getting Survivor or the ascalon title.

I think if a title were to be added, it would need a harder task than just the discoveries. After a few hours, I got all the discoveries in three missions, and I haven't bothered with Saul. That was with little effort, too. The only one I tried was getting Talon to survive the entire mission.

A statue, I can understand though. I'd rather a statue for each mission. Saul needs to be rememebred.

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

/signed but for a statue in the HoM not a title, they're worth more than a few simple bonuses.

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Count to Potato
/notsigned

Titles are suppose to show real accomplishments that are worth noting, having been able to buy stuff on NCstore and just doing some discoveries would add no value to a title like that
/notsigned. I completely agree with you. That and the fact that the content isn't obtainable anymore is also a good reason.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Quote:
to the OP, new titles are ftl
Oh Tyla but it would be easier to max that titles we always wanted but do fear of the VANQUISHING WAYS.

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Titles are suppose to show real accomplishments that are worth noting, having been able to buy stuff on NCstore and just doing some discoveries would add no value to a title like that
Because grinding out of your life (with Ursanway no less) or doing easy 3k quests in Factions are REALLY accomplishments.

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Yeah, I think a title would be the wrong way to go, since not everyone can get it. But I think a statue for the HoM would be nice. Or allow us to place the weapons in the HoM. That would make the extra books worth it.
Not everyone has every campaign, let's take those out too so we have like.... 4 titles left.

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/notsigned, if you thought the "OMG PLZ GIB ME BMP EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T BUY ANYTHING IN STORE" threads are bad now, just try tacking a pointless title onto it.
It's fun when other people suffers.

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/notsigned, this would create an uneven battlefield for you credit card ninjas.
Being a ninja already makes us superior.

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/notsigned. Hey! Why not just add a max title for completing SF, one for DoA, one for Urgoz, one for Deep, etc. etc. That way we can get the KoaBD title inflation!
Because that is happening anyway.

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This is incredibly unfair to the population of Guild wars that could not purchase the BMP because of lack of credit cards or simple lack of cash to throw at a game for minimal content.
Man I love it when people say that. It makes me warm and fuzzy inside.

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First, you're correct in saying it's not fair. However, considering that the GW:EN titles are "buyable" titles practically, that's not much of a point.
Exactly, so this isn't much a point either. Exactly the reason why it should be implemented. I am sorry, last time I checked, being a drunkard doesn't make any point either.

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I think if a title were to be added, it would need a harder task than just the discoveries.
Look at Survivors.

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That and the fact that the content isn't obtainable anymore is also a good reason.
Neither are survivors for characters made before the title. There is a whole thread on that one that I still need to go see the updates and flame some more.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

lol just lol

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

No.

The BMP was a time-limited offer. I see no point in giving the buyers a free extra title nobody else can achieve even if they would like to try.

And yes, I could use it as an easy title for God Among Mere Mortals, too.


But this silly titles for every silly ingame-activity trend has to stop!!! It brought no good to the game, aka title driven gameplay.

Likelytodie

Likelytodie

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

New York

Fat People Lag [IRL]

Mo/

Yes to statue, no to title.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
No.

The BMP was a time-limited offer. I see no point in giving the buyers a free extra title nobody else can achieve even if they would like to try.

And yes, I could use it as an easy title for God Among Mere Mortals, too.


But this silly titles for every silly ingame-activity trend has to stop!!! It brought no good to the game, aka title driven gameplay.
Then call a stop to title grinding, not the titles. In fact, as lot of people tried to argue on here that "YOU DON'T NEED TO DO IT, IT'S THERE!!!111" Let me quote one of those failing arguments and redirect your attacks toward them.
Siege more.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

at least wait until the whiner threads stop before making a thread like this..

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
HM BMP? Are you crazy guys? You can't customize your skillbars and it's a solo thing.
There's more to guild wars then just customized skillbars.


As for the OP, /signed.

So what people missed their chance, and I'm really getting sick of seeing every other thread be about "waa waa waa I didn't buy the BMP". Your fault you didn't buy it, not ours, so stop bitching.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

I like this idea, there should be a title, statue, or at least something for finishing the BMP in discovery mode, since in regular mode you get the weapons. However, I can see that some people wouldn't like that because they might not have the BMP, so they couldn't get the titles. But then again, people who don't have Factions can't get the alliance titles, so...yeah. /signed

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

/signed for a HoM statue.

/notsigned for a title.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
I enjoy the BMP, but what really is the point of dsicovery mode? I think it would be nice to make a title track for the Discoveries. Honestly the extra books when books are unlimited is not a reward IMO. So in addition to the new skin, that look better than the GWEN skins, I think there should be a title or a statue at least.
Of course people will say that this isn't fair to those who didn't get the bonus, well guess what, TITLES ARE NOT FAIR. Look at survivor or LDoA.
This issue with your idea isnt that its unfair (even though the way Anet sold the BMP was completely unfair on those who dont purchase online). The issue is that it would add an extremely easy title to max out.

You get a max title for just completing 4 missions! Wow!! Whats the point and what does it show?

Titles should have some challenge to them and not just be a walk in the park to max out, even though alot already are.

But to compare a BMP title to the survivor or LDOA isnt right, because both of those titles take a hell of alot more time and effort to achieve (whether it be purely death leveling or not).

We dont need more titles, especially ones which can be maxed out in about 30 minutes of play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarzan Yamada
/signed.

this would be a great addition! what does a title really have to do with gameplay anyway? just like the bmp weapon skins. it would just be a fun thing to have a Historian title for completing all 12 discoveries. A monument would be outstanding as well!
Just about everything. Are you suggesting legendary guardian or the protector titles have no baring on the gameplay or dont symbolise any effort or dedication?

What about cartographer or skill hunter! Im not saying all titles show dedication and some are just killing creatures over and over, but alot do show that a player put some effort in and we DONT need more that are just meaningless.

Kabroz the necro

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Mo

/notsigned
There's too much titles (LDoA and LS) that gives extra point to GWAMM,

Homewer if it won't count towards it,and you can buy BMP from real-life shop
/signed

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

not signet, not more to say about.

Whisper Evenstar

Whisper Evenstar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

NYC

Governors Of Destruction [GOD]

E/

/notsigned

Compare GWEN to BMP - 1 title for all missions and dungeons in GWEN, 1 title for 4 missions in BMP??

I don't think so....

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

/signed just to see pve crowd going mad 'omg its so easier now to get KoaBD!1'
And to see more shitstorm about BMP :d

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

Not signed.

All titles are all aveilable to all players. This would create a situation where only a select few people could get a title. Thus, create a rather large void in the player base. "Hey, how come you get this, and I cannot??" "Because you suck, lawlz, and I are the rockz0rz. I can buy titles! lol!!!"

You can obtain any title you wish if you supply more time, and skill. But adding a title that, if you simply buy this when it's supplied, and complete a few easy quests, you get a title. It's not like a protector, or guardian title. Because simply if you have the campaign, you can get these titles. And each game is still sold in most gaming stores. So, everybody can potentually get said title.

If you want LBoA, you can slave for hours and hours going AFK. If you want survivor, you can make a new toon and go at it for a few days/weeks. Want Glad? get your skill set all perfected, and battle it out! My point: Every title is obtainable to everyone who has that campaign/game. But not everybody has the BMP.

You say titles are generally not fair. How so? This title would not be fair.

杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

Maybe have Historian (1) but it dusn't count for koabd, it is just to show that you have made the discoveries?

Alex Morningstar

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

/unsigned

Way too easy to get and would be impossible for people who do not have the BMP to get. At least with Survivor, it just involves rolling a new character, with the ascalon title, just roll a Tyrian character and stay there, death grinding for weeks.

Survivor - 1,000,000+xp
LDoA - Level 20 in Pre-Searing. Death grinding for weeks.
Legendary Spearmarshal - 50,000
Holy Lightbringer - 50,000
Protector - ALL missions in a campaign

then you have...

All discoveries (3) done for all the BMP stories (4).

You can see that compared to those two alone, doing all the discovery stuff doesn't add up to a title, let alone a title that counts towards KoaBD.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by 杀TanK杀
Maybe have Historian (1) but it dusn't count for koabd, it is just to show that you have made the discoveries?
That's what I was thinking too!

MegaPsycho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

OP, Signed

I find it laughable that people are defending titles like Ldoa and Survivor because of the time it consumes.... If anything I think those titles should be revoked and the BMP should get its own title. Why do you ask?

*Equips fire-retardant shield of fortitude*

Simple. Wasnt the whole bloody concept of this game supposed to be about your level of skill, not how much ******* time you spend playing?

I mean seriously, BMP took me 3 days to beat with all hidden objectives, not time consuming at all, but damn did Saul's Story and Togo's story felt like a certain organ on my body was being stapled to a wall.

Protector took at least 5 times as long.... but was less than 1/10th the difficulty/effort. Do you see where Im going here?