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Originally Posted by TheHaxor
1. greens are cheap
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Is it me, or are the non-unique greens not really worth it?
Steboy93
Kahlindra
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Originally Posted by Yarghetaus
Always been in love with the greens.
Need a X weapon with Y mods ? Find it on gwiki, farm it or buy it, got it. Plain, simple, plus the spare of time and money. |
I got all exciting about my BMP weapons, collected a bunch for various characters, now sitting there making a list of all the mods I need. After clearing out quite an impressive stack of storage box mods. Sure, they won't be difficult to get, but the focused farming of getting the green with the mods you want is in most cases far more efficient.
I do still get all happy when I see the green text on the floor, too. Just an inbuilt reaction from the earliest days of SF.
Ferrous Capuchin
There is (I feel) a simple solution to this that would make everyone happy. Myself, I love greens, they have character and a sentimental attachment to getting them (instead of just farming for materials).
Revise the HoM to add 2 additional "bleachers" of weapons, for a total of three tiered rows on the monument.
Row 1: "Display your Legendary Weapons". This is for the elite farm items such as Destroyer weapons.
Row 2: "Display your Heroic Trophies". This is for green items.
Row 3: "Display your Signature Weapons". This is for any other gold items, such as rare skin items, that you wish to display. People should be able to put up those crystalline swords that they paid a gajillion ectos for.
Since GW2 rewards are still unreleased, then nobody is getting anything devalued or losing out on any future rewards. It gives greens back the value and personality that they have lost. There don't even have to be any GW2 rewards for the new displays, just throw me a bone and let me put them on the monument stand.
Revise the HoM to add 2 additional "bleachers" of weapons, for a total of three tiered rows on the monument.
Row 1: "Display your Legendary Weapons". This is for the elite farm items such as Destroyer weapons.
Row 2: "Display your Heroic Trophies". This is for green items.
Row 3: "Display your Signature Weapons". This is for any other gold items, such as rare skin items, that you wish to display. People should be able to put up those crystalline swords that they paid a gajillion ectos for.
Since GW2 rewards are still unreleased, then nobody is getting anything devalued or losing out on any future rewards. It gives greens back the value and personality that they have lost. There don't even have to be any GW2 rewards for the new displays, just throw me a bone and let me put them on the monument stand.
Friar Khan
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I <3 greens. Cheap, usually excellent modded weapons that have decent skins. Can't complain.
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Most of the time I'll get the inexpensive green with the nice skin and prepackaged mods rather than hunting down my favorite gold skin (with the right inherent bonus if it's Tyrian or Canthan), hunting down the right mods, and probably paying much more in the process.
Overall the upsides of greens usually outweigh the downsides.
Shakti
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Originally Posted by Kahlindra
I do still get all happy when I see the green text on the floor, too. Just an inbuilt reaction from the earliest days of SF.
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Vinraith
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Originally Posted by Kahlindra
I do still get all happy when I see the green text on the floor, too. Just an inbuilt reaction from the earliest days of SF.
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Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Friar Khan
Haha, you're my twin. I'm exactly the same way...
Most of the time I'll get the inexpensive green with the nice skin and prepackaged mods rather than hunting down my favorite gold skin (with the right inherent bonus if it's Tyrian or Canthan), hunting down the right mods, and probably paying much more in the process. Overall the upsides of greens usually outweigh the downsides. |
However, I rarely, very rarely buy weapons off others. I keep my drops, salvage the mods I need, rest becomes merch fodder if it's not good enough to sell to other people. As for weapon skins, I keep what I find still... I think the last weapon I bought off someone was a req9 +5 mammoth axe, maybe 5 months ago. AS for mods... I buy what I just can't find, or need and don't have. Doesn't happen often x].
Crom The Pale
Green weapons are a Heros best friend
freaky naughty
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Green weapons are a Heros best friend
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I don't see why people dislike greens, they have perfect stats, cheap to buy, sometimes have rare skins that would be 100k +xxx ecto ( take murakais reaver as an example).
Longasc
Green Weapon Monument - how many green weapons are there...? One of each, gives dedicated collectors something to collect. ^^
And I wonder how they would store that. Probably keep the best, trash the rest.
And I wonder how they would store that. Probably keep the best, trash the rest.
Darksun
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Originally Posted by AuraofMana
Honestly, if you can't afford some 50k weap (mods included), something is wrong.
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Carinae
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Originally Posted by KartMan
also don't forget some greens have stat that you CAN'T reproduce with inscription system
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EDIT: For example: Konrru's Fervor
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
In case you guys missed this point, don't forget some greens have stats that you CAN'T reproduce with the inscription system.
EDIT: For example: Konrru's Fervor |
As far as I'm concerned the hierarchy is something like this:
Whites < Blues < Purples <= Crap Golds < Collector Items < Greens < Good Golds
KartMan
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
Yup, they're fun items to collect even if they aren't HOMable. I suppose if people really needed more incentive you could always have a green collection title, but personally I don't really need a carrot to do something I enjoy doing anyway. The only real bummer is how tilted the green supply is towards warriors, not that I don't understand why it's so.
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have around 550 out of 608 (not counting end game greens
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
In case you guys missed this point, don't forget some greens have stats that you CAN'T reproduce with the inscription system.
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
This is more of a proof that inscription system sucks, not that greens are any good. Uninscribables FTW!
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Cebe
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Originally Posted by free_fall
Some greens are perfect, some aren't.
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It always makes me chuckle when I see someone selling a "Perfect Green Weapon".
gremlin
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Originally Posted by KartMan
huhu I'd love a green collection title ^^
have around 550 out of 608 (not counting end game greens )we should list all the greens that have stats you can't reproduce with inscription system I'd go for both : greens are good (at least some of them) and inscription system sucks ^^, old school ftw |
Wish I had a gold for every time I have said this Check on Guildwiki
They list all the green items and say how they may be reproduced or if they cannot be reproduced.
KartMan
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Originally Posted by gremlin
Wish I had a gold for every time I have said this Check on Guildwiki
They list all the green items and say how they may be reproduced or if they cannot be reproduced. |
but you'll have to check every green one by one, whereas I suggest to have one unique list with the items that can't be reproduced ^^
can't give you a gold but have a /cookie
edit : working is boring
below is only for stats/req type (if dmg type is different, I didn't count it)
Warrior :
Aegis of Terror
Tanzit's Defender
Thorgall's Shield
Aegis of Augh
Ranger :
none
Monk :
Brohn's Staff
Gardock's Staff
The Yakslapper
Brohn's Holy Rod
Stormray
Wayward Wand (Heal)
Wayward Wand (Prot)
Ivor's Icon
Incetol's Focus
The Stonehart
Wroth's Icon
Ivor's Staff
Shen's Censure
Necromancer :
Fleshweaver
Gordac's Hook Blood
Villnar's Staff
Villnar's Claw
Villnar's Glove
Bortak's Bone Claw
Konrru's Fervor
Mesmer :
Handsmasher
Willcrusher
Garbok's Cane
Rose Focus
Gorrel's Staff
Siska's Staff
Deeproot's Sorrow
The Rockmolder
Garbok's Chalice
Elementalist :
Brimstone Wand
The Brimstone
Bahnba's Scepter
Bizzr's Fury
The Kindlerock
Flint's Artifact
Assassin :
none
Ritualist :
Sseer's Wish
Bazzr's Staff
Orosen's Staff
Spiritgarden's Repose
Brightclaw
Wayward Wand (Rest)
Paragon :
Stygian Defender
Stygian Aegis
Dervich :
none
I hope I didn't forget any ^^
Sha Noran
Greens were designed to help the average player have access to perfect weapons... however, most of the best greens remained unavailable price-wise for the average player, so ANet took a big shit on everyone and make inscription slots, finishing off the once healthy economy. /clap
Quaker
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Originally Posted by super strokey
Yeah that would work, they should do that. But they wont so no point even thinking about it lol
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The biggest problem (if you even call it a problem) with greens is that any status they may have had is completely wiped out by the fact they can be sold and bought by anyone. Even the fancy smancy Destroyer and Torment weapons can be bought and sold, so having such a weapon does not mean that you actually completed EoN or DoA
I think the idea of weapons that are customized (or dedicated) automatically, like the BMP weapons, is a good idea, but what they now need (or would need if it wasn't for GW2) would be yet another class of weapons. We now have white, blue, purple, yellow (gold) and green weapons - why not add red. Red weapons could either have uber stats or be "clean", but they would only drop from bosses and would automatically be dedicated to the character that dropped it. (For example, a red staff could have HSR 25% built in instead of the normal HSR 20%.)
Savio
There are already weapons colored red, and overpowered PvE items is stupid.
I would think making golds rain from the sky did more damage than inscription slots, but that's just me.
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Originally Posted by Sha Noran
so ANet took a big shit on everyone and make inscription slots
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Shakti
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Originally Posted by Savio
There are already weapons colored red, and overpowered PvE items is stupid.
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Red weapons?
Darksun
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Originally Posted by Sha Noran
so ANet took a big shit on everyone and make inscription slots, finishing off the once healthy economy. /clap
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TheHaxor
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Originally Posted by Quaker
Red weapons could either have uber stats or be "clean", but they would only drop from bosses and would automatically be dedicated to the character that dropped it. (For example, a red staff could have HSR 25% built in instead of the normal HSR 20%.)
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Wait... then they would have to rename this game World of Warcraft or Ultima Online.
IlikeGW
I think they need to revamp them if there's going to be anymore, because they aren't very good compared to inscribable weapons. I think they should just abandon them though and go the BMP route.
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by Darksun
Uhhh.. so Anet making it so that the main thing people buy with money (weapons) were easier to get is.... bad? So you can't make a bajillion gold for your "rare gold". The only big thing you need to save tons for now is armor, which isn't that hard since you aren't blowing more than the cost of armor on 1 retarded gold item. Sounds like it only hurts the greedy.
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Sleeper Service
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Originally Posted by Quaker
It would be a little difficult to do that retro-actively (but not impossible). There wouldn't be much purpose in making bosses NOW drop the same old green, but dedicated.
The biggest problem (if you even call it a problem) with greens is that any status they may have had is completely wiped out by the fact they can be sold and bought by anyone. Even the fancy smancy Destroyer and Torment weapons can be bought and sold, so having such a weapon does not mean that you actually completed EoN or DoA I think the idea of weapons that are customized (or dedicated) automatically, like the BMP weapons, is a good idea, but what they now need (or would need if it wasn't for GW2) would be yet another class of weapons. We now have white, blue, purple, yellow (gold) and green weapons - why not add red. Red weapons could either have uber stats or be "clean", but they would only drop from bosses and would automatically be dedicated to the character that dropped it. (For example, a red staff could have HSR 25% built in instead of the normal HSR 20%.) |
I think there was a simmilar idea suggested in Sardelac.
Hyper Cutter
All inscriptions did was show how rare a weapon really was. The difference is that any max inscribable weapon is usable, whereas most uninscribable weapons are merched due to shit mods and thus the ones that aren't appear a lot rarer than they really are...
AuraofMana
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Look at Diablo 2 and WOW.
Vinraith
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Originally Posted by AuraofMana
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.
Look at Diablo 2 and WOW. |
Shakti
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Originally Posted by Savio
There are already weapons colored red, and overpowered PvE items is stupid.
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Savio
PvP reward items.
[wiki]Item rarity[/wiki]
[wiki]Item rarity[/wiki]
Shakti
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Originally Posted by Savio
PvP reward items.
[wiki]Item rarity[/wiki] |
Ahhh k ty
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Master Knightfall
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Originally Posted by TheHaxor
1. greens are cheap
2. you can find a green for almost any combination you want /endthread |
Firey X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points?
Lightning X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points?
Cold X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points?
Ebon X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points?
Show me those greens?
Show me these Greens as well:
Lightning +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers
Cold +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers
Ebon +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers
I think I saw ONE Firey and one Cold Axe or Sword and that was it. Where's the Lightning an Ebon Greens of various types and choices? Hardly a huge selection of types actually.
TheHaxor
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
WRONG! Show me Green Axes, Swords and Hammers with the following
Firey X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points? Lightning X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points? Cold X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points? Ebon X +5 Energy +30 Hit Points? Show me those greens? Show me these Greens as well: Lightning +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers Cold +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers Ebon +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers I think I saw ONE Firey and one Cold Axe or Sword and that was it. Where's the Lightning an Ebon Greens of various types and choices? Hardly a huge selection of types actually. |
A dictionary might be helpful next time.
Hyper Cutter
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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Show me these Greens as well:
Lightning +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers Cold +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers Ebon +15^50 +30 Hit Points Axes, Swords and Hammers I think I saw ONE Firey and one Cold Axe or Sword and that was it. Where's the Lightning an Ebon Greens of various types and choices? Hardly a huge selection of types actually. |
[wiki]Grabthar's Hammer[/wiki]
[wiki]The Ice Breaker[/wiki]
[wiki]Destructive Blade[/wiki]
TheHaxor
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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
[wiki]Chor's Axe[/wiki]
[wiki]Grabthar's Hammer[/wiki] [wiki]The Ice Breaker[/wiki] [wiki]Destructive Blade[/wiki] |