Yanssassin-the comeback!

Yanman has got to be the biggest retard ever. Period. Has Guru forgotten the stupidity that is Ensoriki?
This cannot be tolerated. Mokone Tell em who the real retard is!

Anyways


[skill]Mark of Instability[/skill]
[skill]Black Mantis Thrust[/skill]
[skill]Exhausting Assault[/skill]
Falling Lotus Strike
Trampling Ox
[skill]Moebius Strike[/skill]
[skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Falling Lotus manages your Energy so +1 point.
Moebius Horns knockdown, not original but no point loss on this.
MoI = + point I like that skill
BmS + point snare and low recharge.
Exhausting assault = fine.
Trampling ox synergizing with both BMS and MS

3 KD, MOI will let Trampling Ox work even if the foe is not crippled = good.

Now time for me to bitch.
3 dual attacks, your Bar compression is horrendous you have nothing that will serve you any use out of melee range But your rez sig which is a 1 time use.
Warriors have a self heal or a IMS to serve them out of melee range.
You have nothing, you can say you will snare, but any player worth their salt will kite you before you do anything to them.
You don't need to Snare for your combo to work, This is a good thing, but if you don't snare you can run into problems even with KD.
All those slots and the SP sin still serves better in pretty much every way

SP Sin has a Full range snare and Shadow step and a Hex for BMS and 1/4 cast (Oh shit!) You have a melee snare and no IMS
Sp sin has A frightening spike that may or may not have a kD
You have virtually no Spike with Many KD's and a possibility for an unlimited KD chain (if they go down to 50% hp)

Sp sin does not have energy management (except for Way of the Lotus)
You have E-management.

No IMS OR shadowstep, In Factions PVP this isn't a problem in any other form of pvp it is (except probably RA)
The thing that redeems that is your snare and KD's, the problem is How do you get to an intelligent foe who is watching the battle field?


6/10....its not a horrible build...its not exactly average (what I deem 5/10)
it justs needs improvements.

I get your not the SP sin (>.> none of my builds are =P)
but im comparing it to something very frequent.

Now to be straight.

You don't need all that KD, removing MOI, for either.

Siphon Speed or adding a self defense skill (or Disrupting dagger/stab) or an IMS
and changing BMS to Leaping Mantis Sting.
Will open up so much more to you.

You already have 2 KD skills, Considering your the Assassin King (but im emperor) landing LmS conditional snare should be no problem for you, and thus you will get this

1 less KD but more damage (LPS is a tad stronger =P
You can substitute GLS for Jungle Strike
Ah but there would be a bit of an energy dilemna.
Way of the lotus can fix that for you if you decide to take that.


AS far as I know the previous Yan had only 2 KD's but more damage.
Go back to 2 KD's (remove GLS if you can)
And your set.

Another option is to change MBS for Iron Palm (just to get off a lead)
And add hidden caltrops (sue me for suggesting)

Honestly you don't even NEED Hoto, Just keep em crippled and Trampling Moebius will work.

God why do I make such long posts.....must be because im retarded.

You shouldn't compare this to SP sin. The SP sin shuts down by killing, I shut down by kding...perhaps killing is better, however. I'm pretty sure assassins are made to pop in, kill and gtfo?

HotO = IMO not worth it, I'd take DB. Cripple being removed isn't such a big deal what with BMT having only a 4s recharge, so TO will likely be enough to keep up the KD chain.

Big no-no: you cast MoI. Target runs away. You cannot catch up! In builds without shadowstepping (eg linebackers) I feel one MUST take Dash/Siphon Speed or suchlike. Counter-arguments, please?

The SP sin didn't exist until 1 year ago, while the assassin class has existed for longer then that.

Before SP BOA there were more original sin ideas.
Now ideas are being slandered for not being similar.
Thats not right.

Thusd P, I said some positive things about his build =P

Its good to say that instead of saying something sucks =P No, all sin builds are a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 combo, hoping that target will be dead.

and more original? You can count the succesfull meta-builds on one hand:
AoD shock
Sprison
SA
Moebius DB spam
1 I sure forgot

No, all sin builds are a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 combo, hoping that target will be dead.

and more original? You can count the succesfull meta-builds on one hand:
AoD shock
Sprison
SA
Moebius DB spam
1 I sure forgot The 1 you forgot is probably Caster Spam.

Now Pyromaniac.
Generally in my defense to the 1-7 spam.

I use Pre-nightfall experience.
Where there was much less of that in generally, yes AoD (or hot stepper) sin existed,but overall assassin's had a lot more leeway in creating builds without being flamed.

When people compare his build to the SP sin they fail to list anything positive.
People also say his bad is build without explaining why, making it harder to improve then without constructive criticism.

Less popular guilds have run Sin Builds not of those 5 and won matches, while this will mean little to you as they are Less popular guilds, those builds probably did not catch on because
1) they were not exposed as much (like pvxwiki bs)
2) The guild converted to the above builds shortly afterwards
3) It wasn't brain dead enough.

Now back to yan's topic.

Yan I personally believe you should remove MoI if anything!
Removing GLS most likely will not hurt you significantly since you claim to be adept at making builds.

yan's original build is before nightfall (right?)
Thus it was 1 of the builds that had Leeway to not be flamed because it wasn't SP sin (which didn't exist)