Guild Wars Gets a Bad Review

Amon Warrior

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So, there I was browsing the internet when I stumbled upon this review from a FiringSquad blog that isn't kind at all concerning nearly all aspects of Guild Wars.

Basically, the reviewer found the game to be quite dull and using the same battered formulas from any mmo.

"In conclusion, Guild Wars is a decently mediocre game which I would not recommend to anyone unless they must play an, at best, decently mediocre mmorpg at any cost. If I had to do it all over again, I would have looked elsewhere for my Holy Grail of games."

I can't say I agree with the reviewers opinion. GW is certainly not a Holy Grail, but it's a game that I like and that I actually keep playing.

What more can one expect from a no-montlhy-fee game that still gets regularly updated?

Well, there's GW2 in the horizon...

Seraphic Divinity

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Bad Review is the perfect phrase.

The Review of the game was Bad, meaning they did a very poor job at analyzing it and its key features.

Savio

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I love video games. I am an aspiring game designer.

I was hoping for that Holy Grail, inexpressible experience of the perfect game.
Those two lines sum up the review.

Kakumei

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Grind is subjective

learn this please

Yeah, I too care about what some random user posted to an internet blog.

Shadowfox1125

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You even had to manage the red bar and blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays).
Woo, great review.

mafia cyborg

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Join Date: Dec 2006

bad review? retarded review more like....

Toxage

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Originally Posted by Amon Warrior
Bas
What more can one expect from a no-montlhy-fee game that still gets regularly updated?

Well, there's GW2 in the horizon...
Bug Fixes and poor skill balances =/ regular updates.... those are just poor lazy attempts to keep us interested in guild wars...

So it's ok that guild wars has been abandoned by the development team and everytime their is a bug they respond with "We are busy working on Gw2, we can't spend time to make your current gameplay more enjoyable but don't worry, in 2 years, you will be able to play one kick ass game!"

Curse You

Curse You

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Now let's see where this guy goes wrong.

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It was spectacularly unspectacular. I had come to expect a certain level of quality in graphics and artistic design for the game, and I was brutally disappointed. All of the figures and objects were blocky and awkward. Instead of pulling me in and immersing me in the game, the visual effects (yes, even the world and level design) only furthered my realization that I was playing a poorly rendered fantasy game.
Did this guy play with his graphics on minimum or something?

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Guild Wars employed all the common elements of your typical mmorpg.
That, sir, is why you failed.

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You even had to manage the red bar and blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays).
That just made me loose any respect I had for this guy. Seriously, has this guy never heard of the idea of managing your health and energy?

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However, humans quickly figure out what combinations of skills and players work well against other combinations of skills and players.
NO WAI!! Humans adapt? This is preposterous! [/sarcasm]

My review of the review: EPIC FAIL.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

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LOL "You even had to manage the red bar and blue bar" What did this guy play, some junk where you could aggro the map and hammer attack bar and still win?

DarkGanni

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There's no better game reviewer than the players that ACTUALLY played it themselves...

- Ganni

Toxage

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Originally Posted by Curse You
That, sir, is why you failed.
No, he failed here.


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To me, the one good thing about it was the community of game players. I thoroughly enjoyed my dealings with all I encountered in the web community, in-game as well as out. There a great amount of interaction between players through fan sites as well as the game. Everyone was genuinely genial and helpful. Unfortunately, this saddened me to see such a huge and thriving community so involved in such a mediocre, standard game.
Just roflmao....

Zeek Aran

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I think he was playing the wrong game. o.O It really doesn't sound like Guild Wars at all, minus the generic elements thing. Helpful players? Bad graphics? What is he playing, WoW?

Toxage

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
I think he was playing the wrong game. o.O It really doesn't sound like Guild Wars at all, minus the generic elements thing. Helpful players? Bad graphics? What is he playing, WoW?
Yes, Warcraft has bad graphics... lol

http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32248#24911

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32837

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32336

http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32253#24916

http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32332#27714
Look at the detail on those weapons.

Onarik Amrak

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Originally Posted by Seraphic Divinity
Bad Review is the perfect phrase.

The Review of the game was Bad, meaning they did a very poor job at analyzing it and its key features.
QFT!

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Originally Posted by Savio
Those two lines sum up the review.
QFT!

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Originally Posted by Kakumei
Yeah, I too care about what some random user posted to an internet blog.
QFT!

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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg
bad review? retarded review more like....
QFT!

I don't think I need to add more.

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

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Actually, I think the problem with most reviews of this sort is that the reviewer probably just gave the game a couple of hours.

Just think back to the first couple of hours of your playing GW. You'll have a handful of attribute points, maybe 8-16 skills spread over 6-8 attribute lines. That is in no way reflective of what GW is anything about.

The problem is that few reviewers would give the hours to play the game till they had 100++ skills and 200 skill points.

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

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LMAO!

This review is a complete and utter joke.

gameguy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Taiwan

Guild Wars Gets a Bad Review????

Noob game designer don't know how to play GW???

I know only thing NO Taiwan ,HK GW player want to play GW2 if GW2 use many regions on server(like US,EU,ASIA or other)

In Taiwan,HK Server,all city is like deadman living City.more and more Taiwan,HK GW player leave GW because

1.NO CM on magzine,TV=NO player know ,listen what GW is
2.BAN IP(except IP in Taiwan,HK)
3.buy GW:EN on NCTAIWAN SERVER

=No bonus mission pack
=Many Taiwan,hk GW player is very angry(Why buying GW:EN do'nt get bonus mission pack)
=many Taiwan,HK GW player want NCTAIWAN & Anet get out Taiwan,HK and get to hell

After hellgate:london release,rare player play GW (rare player buy ,sell the thing in ASCALON,LA int1 before 1.5 month)

CyberMesh0

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Hell- I didn't even sear for two weeks (moderate play) when I first got this game. That's how long it took me to get used to the basic mechanics. I wonder if this guy even made it that far.

You can't see me

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Critics are so ciritcal when it comes to games.

But seriously, there's always going to be some person that just doesn't like the game, or expects the perfect game to come out of a company's budget. QQ on their part really. It's why when I want a review for a game, I rely on one person, and one person alone. Myself.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

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make account on that site and 3-2-1 spike with "Joshua plz fail less" or "Joshua fails at life".

Lonesamurai

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wow, retarded review of a nearly three year old game... fail...

yum

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The player-versus-player served to add to the mix a little bit. However, humans quickly figure out what combinations of skills and players work well against other combinations of skills and players. After a little while, you start to realize your replaying the exact same battles over and over.
He wins GW, we can all stop playing now.

Bekkr

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AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!! My eyes! It's so Smurfy, I can't handle it.

The horror....

Terraban

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As far as the combat system and game play goes, these aspects of the game frustrated me too. Guild Wars employed all the common elements of your typical mmorpg. You got stat points and skill points and equipment. You learned collected more skills, you completed quests, you grinded, different character classes excelled at different things, and you killed different monsters with different techniques depending who was good at what in your party.
Wouldn't it be sort of boring if it wasn't like this?

Certain characters excel at different things....wow...
Killed different monsters with different techniques....wow

Maybe he was looking for a MMOPONG?

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Even the experience bar was green.
Ok that is it, the game totally /fails, a green experience bar, the nerve of the designers....


Bad graphics?

http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ScreenSh...ndex=27&Set=63
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g.../display/11859

Yup, WoW hands down.


If this guy was serious, he is seriously a moron.
I actually think he was joking though, nobody could be that stupid.

Gaile Gray

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Join Date: Feb 2005

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Originally Posted by Terraban
Ok that is it, the game totally /fails, a green experience bar, the nerve of the designers....
I warned them, "If you do not use the lavender experience bar, someone, someday will write a blog and say that the colour is just totally wrong."
Did they listen?
No, of course not!
And look where we are today!

*quickly inserts the Universal Sarcasm Symbol(tm) to avoid any confusion between these comments and a genuine post*

ensoriki

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I warned them, "If you do not use the lavender experience bar, someone, someday will write a blog and say that the colour is just totally wrong."
Did they listen?
No, of course not!
And look where we are today!

*quickly inserts the Universal Sarcasm Symbol(tm) to avoid any confusion between these comments and a genuine post*
OF course that was sarcasm.

A pink Exp bar with a pimp hat with a feather on it would of been much better.
That was not sarcasm.

GW gets bad reviews cus its from a different mold.
The only reason to give GW a bad review is because izzy doesnt love the assassin.

Redfeather1975

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It's a very weird review.
I'm really curious what he'd say about all the other popular online rpgs if he wasn't impressed with a system involving health and energy, nor with the landscape design. Perhaps he only played the beginning of the very first game.
Really strange.

BTW. Gaile, I petitioned for the xp bar to be a pair of jazz hands that slowly become brighter and shake when you level up. That's what the UI artists get for not listening to my incredible bleeding edge suggestions.

Terraban

Terraban

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
It's a very weird review.
I'm really curious what he'd say about all the other popular online rpgs if he wasn't impressed with a system involving health and energy, nor with the landscape design. Perhaps he only played the beginning of the very first game.
Really strange.
He was looking for a MMOPONG.

An True Hero

An True Hero

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Join Date: May 2007

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A trash review by a random nobody on an internet blog. He fails to address even the legitimate criticisms of this game. Probably just some WoW fanboy.

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

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The two parts that made me lol-

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blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays)
It's energy, gee, so tough to remember, and omg, its not mana, like every other game...

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To me, the one good thing about it was the community of game players.
The one bad thing. >_<

Redfeather1975

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Oh my gorsh IceFire.
I forgot about him saying the community was the best part of the game.
I figured it out now.
He's Bizarro Superman.

Terraban

Terraban

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I am an aspiring game designer.
LOL.....I bet that he uses a dark yellow experience bar.

RPGmaniac

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blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays)
That's about the same as calling a new FPS unoriginal because they use guns.

I think typically in order to write a decent review you have to get past beginner island.

MegaPsycho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

That "review" was so hilarious I was in tears from uncontrollable laughter. I actually thought it was a joke or a parody, but after I managed to control the maniacal laughter, I realized this guy/gal was quite serious. So many things wrong...

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The game boasted beautiful landscapes and great graphics. But when I played it, I was disappointed. Yes, it was significantly better aesthetically than the free mmo’s out there, but this was a major title game.
Please name an MMO with graphics that are more than marginally superior to GW. I dare you. I cant think of one off the top of my head. I also wonder if this guy was running on minimum settings due to a 56k modem, a P2/P3 machine, having like 128 ram, or like an 8 meg graphic card. Aside from certain creatures that are supposed to look like blocks (The Apocrypha comes to mind,) I cant think of anything in GW that looks blocky O.o

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I was hoping for that Holy Grail, inexpressible experience of the perfect game. You could give it the excuse that it was over hyped and was objectively decent looking, but excuses shouldn’t satisfy a true gamer. It was spectacularly unspectacular. I had come to expect a certain level of quality in graphics and artistic design for the game, and I was brutally disappointed. All of the figures and objects were blocky and awkward. Instead of pulling me in and immersing me in the game, the visual effects (yes, even the world and level design) only furthered my realization that I was playing a poorly rendered fantasy game.
These sentences, along with the entire rest of the review, makes me wonder if any of the following apply to him/her:
1. Is this person on drugs?
2. Is this person highly delusional in general?
3. What games does this person like, if any?

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As far as the combat system and game play goes, these aspects of the game frustrated me too. Guild Wars employed all the common elements of your typical mmorpg. You got stat points and skill points and equipment. You learned collected more skills, you completed quests, you grinded, different character classes excelled at different things, and you killed different monsters with different techniques depending who was good at what in your party.
It. is. an. rpg..... I'm thinking, this guy should be playing a different genre of games all together. Thats like.... saying a first person shooter shoudnt have guns. *sigh*

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You even had to manage the red bar and blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays).
Like I said... its an RPG, since when do RPG's not have managing health and energy? Anyone?

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Even the experience bar was green.
OMG! ITS GREEN! BAD RATING FOR GAME! OH NOEZ! </sarcasm>

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For the kind of cash you’ll have to shell out to play the full game between all the expansions (I bought all three) and additions that compliment one another, you expect way more than what's delivered.
Right, because its so much more expensive for the typical MMO player to buy a couple of campaigns than to buy a full priced game, an expansion pack or two, and pay $10-$20 a month, Riigghhhtttt....

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However, humans quickly figure out what combinations of skills and players work well against other combinations of skills and players.
Well, in the real world, if a human is getting beat over and over by an opponent, and he/she takes forever or never at all figures out why, or in general, when a human cant adapt to a situation, its often referred to as mental retardation.

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Even the level design was standard. You had your desert area, your snow area, your plains area, and your swamp and forest area. Even the architecture featured a little bit from every continent. Perhaps that is what the designers were going for; Perhaps they wanted to take all the elements that have come to be common among the genre and incorporate them and wrap them up into an all-inclusive game. For me, that only served to make an all-inclusively common game. There was nothing special about it.
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What? You want us fighting in space? Modern buildings? Where? I want this reviewer to come here, tell us where else to fight, instead of whining. And come to think of that, alot of areas did not fit that template at all. Domain of Anguish in particular comes to mind.

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To me, the one good thing about it was the community of game players. I thoroughly enjoyed my dealings with all I encountered in the web community, in-game as well as out. There a great amount of interaction between players through fan sites as well as the game. Everyone was genuinely genial and helpful. Unfortunately, this saddened me to see such a huge and thriving community so involved in such a mediocre, standard game.
Wait, what? The one nice thing he had to say about GW wasnt very accurate, or at least very skewed in perspective. Unfortunately, the GW is infested with those of extremely elitist mindsets, and not very helpful outside of Wiki.

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To me, this fact only serves to demonstrate the fact that the mmo community needs and deserves a truly perfect game (which I’m sure they would gladly compensate the developer for as well).
That made... no coherent sense at all. What demonstrated this? And if he is refering to the paragraph before, how in hell did it do that? Also, sorry to burst this guy's delusional fantasy bubble, but in both real life and in video games, there is no such thing as absolute perfection, and if there was, things would become boring quickly.

Terraban

Terraban

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I bet that guy is one of the 16 guests and is laughing his ass off right now.

Kusandaa

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Mmmmkay. I've read the review and well... I feel the complete opposite. GW'S graphics aren't the best, but they're pretty good. I'm curious how long he played. If he's totally new at the game, he needs to spend more time in it - the fun starts at max level. How he found the player interaction good though, I've got no idea, since the community is very cookie-cutter and there's a ton of idiots.

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You even had to manage the red bar and blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays). Even the experience bar was green.
Lost all credibility. GG.

Lord Sojar

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Umm, you want good video game reviews?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...sassin-s-Creed

Have fun.

He is going to do GW:EN soon. Oh, I can't wait.

Vinraith

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Blogs suck.



That is all.

Curse You

Curse You

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Originally Posted by RPGmaniac
That's about the same as calling a new FPS unoriginal because they use guns.
I will be the first person to make an FPS that has no guns! Instead, everyone will carry fruit, which they must throw at one another. However, the ultimate weapon shall be the pointed stick!

Redfeather1975

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Umm, you want good video game reviews?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...sassin-s-Creed

Have fun.

He is going to do GW:EN soon. Oh, I can't wait.
He's really brutal with his reviews, and so far I agree with them.
And despite the fact we both agree on all the things about the game that weren't fun, in the end we both liked the game.
Yes, it's hard to tell. But he actually dug Assassin's Creed.