Guild Wars Gets a Bad Review

Lord Sojar

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:28 - 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
He's really brutal with his reviews, and so far I agree with them.
And despite the fact we both agree on all the things about the game that weren't fun, in the end we both liked the game.
Yes, it's hard to tell. But he actually dug Assassin's Creed.
That is why I love him. He tells crap as it is. He isn't afraid to speak his mind about the studios, dev teams, anyone. Unlike IGN and Gamestop, he isn't milking corporate dollars from their coffers.

RPGmaniac

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:39 - 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I will be the first person to make an FPS that has no guns! Instead, everyone will carry fruit, which they must throw at one another. However, the ultimate weapon shall be the pointed stick!
I would pay big bucks for that.

JeniM

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:41 - 43
To be fair the guy has a point about the graphics
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8787/gw366sf4.jpg

Oh wait whats this "Graphics" pannel do in options?
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7448/gw367rj8.jpg

Had everything on lowest and a 800x600 resolution in pic one and it still looks pretty good

@Curse You
Got to love the python referance

Smurf Minions

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:51 - 44
look at the worlds around those weapons, mass production+mmo = fail

Lord Sojar

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:53 - 45
Oh, just another graphical example. These are identical screenshots.

The first is taken with Guild Wars max graphics and 4xAA, post process effects on and best filtering enabled. (Warning: Very high rez, 1920x1200 in link)
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw343yz0.jpg

This second one, is lowest settings, Best Filtering and post effects are off. No AA. (Warning, again high rez 1920x1200 link)
http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw344jy8.jpg

Hmmm, SLIGHT difference wouldn't you say?

garethporlest18

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:54 - 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
That is why I love him. He tells crap as it is. He isn't afraid to speak his mind about the studios, dev teams, anyone. Unlike IGN and Gamestop, he isn't milking corporate dollars from their coffers.
Rofl man that guy was cracking me up on Halo 3 and Tabula Rasa reviews, thanks for showing him to me..can't wait to hear the EotN one.

As to this reviewer...*smack* that's all I have to say.

and Curse You..watch out for those banana wielders!

Roo Ella

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06 Dec 2007 at 06:58 - 47
LOL I'm still laughing at the review
All I can say is he didn't play GW it was some other game he tried
OR
He was a gold seller or duper and got caught out and decided to get his revenge by writing a "Review" ?

Fluffiliscious

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06 Dec 2007 at 12:01 - 48
It sounds like he didn't even bother to read anything about the game, played it for an hour then wrote a review. I probably wouldn't enjoy the game very much if I were left to my own devices to figure out every little nuance. Plus, if he's ever played an MMO before, he should have been able to figure out the "red and blue bars" you have to "manage".

ensoriki

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Canada bro.

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06 Dec 2007 at 12:41 - 49
Minimum settings in GW are still nice.

If this guy is reproducing I want quarantine.

cebalrai

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06 Dec 2007 at 13:12 - 50
Just a random blog by a random person who appears to have little knowledge of how the game works.

Rocky Raccoon

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06 Dec 2007 at 13:16 - 51
Just remember that any idiot can place a review on the internet, but that doesn't mean what they say has any basis in reality. I have always had a short attention span when it comes to pc games and I have been playing GW for over 2 years and still am having fun. If that reviewer played more than a few hours I would be surprised. In my opinion that review is just a bunch of verbal vomit.

Ashe.

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06 Dec 2007 at 13:16 - 52
Everyone knows the game slows down for a bit around Fort Ranik to Gates of Kryta. It's where all my friends quit and where most fail.

Besides, who cares what people think.

onerabbit

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06 Dec 2007 at 13:25 - 53
I think he played Presearing with grfx on lowest setting..

[DE]

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06 Dec 2007 at 13:26 - 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
To be fair the guy has a point about the graphics
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8787/gw366sf4.jpg

Oh wait whats this "Graphics" pannel do in options?
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7448/gw367rj8.jpg

Had everything on lowest and a 800x600 resolution in pic one and it still looks pretty good

@Curse You
Got to love the python referance
In directx8 under the lowest graphic settings, running in 800x600 the characters will look a bit blocky. But I can't imagine why he would be running guild wars on such a crap computer.

Shakti

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06 Dec 2007 at 15:40 - 55
...was he playing the same game?

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, review.

Complaints about exp bars being green? Oh noes, "managing" red and blue bars? Has he never played games or is he smoking some wacky tobaccy?

EDIT to add:

Saying how helpful the GW community is leads me to believe he was not playing GW. I don't think I've seen much helpful other than rare exceptions since the month after release. Or else he never left presear and was unbelievably lucky in who he encountered.

Tyla

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:22 - 56
wow bad review, he cant manage health/energy bars?
also i thought gws was a COrpg not an MMOrpg

Maximumraver

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:27 - 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Now let's see where this guy goes wrong.

Did this guy play with his graphics on minimum or something?

That, sir, is why you failed.

That just made me loose any respect I had for this guy. Seriously, has this guy never heard of the idea of managing your health and energy?

NO WAI!! Humans adapt? This is preposterous! [/sarcasm]

My review of the review: EPIC FAIL.
/Agree
Nothing To Add.

Etta

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:35 - 58
lol that Vekk guy made me laugh. (I think he's Rahja in disguise)

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:42 - 59
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The game boasted beautiful landscapes and great graphics. But when I played it, I was disappointed.
I stopped reading there. I think he was playing with graphics set at "fastest".

street peddler

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:44 - 60
the internet, even your opinion can be taken seriously..

Balan Makki

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:47 - 61
This isn't a review, it's only pretending to be.

It's a blog about a boy who wants to grow up to design the Perfect MMO.

Pyrea

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:48 - 62
Obviously this guy has no clue, although everyone is entitles to an opinion.

Bryant Again

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:57 - 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf Minions
look at the worlds around those weapons, mass production+mmo = fail
Two of those, the rather iffy looking ones, were taken in the Orc starting area, one of the earliest developed areas in the game. So of course they're gonna to be a little subpar.

The areas in the newest expansion area simply gorgeous, with some very awesome looking skyboxes throughout. Not to mention that the weapons and armor have some really fancy shading effects to them.

Nonetheless, the graphics are a good reason of it's accessibility. It's something Blizzard's been known for: Trying to avoid the high-end area of graphics so more people can enjoy their products.

DDL

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06 Dec 2007 at 16:58 - 64
Remember though: he did buy all three campaigns (!), so it doesn't matter what he thinks or how misguided he is, the money is already in Anet's hands.

So who cares?

I do wonder though: what kind of idiot would shell out 70 quid for three linked games upfront..and then discover they don't like them?

Surely buying Prophecies and actually PLAYING it would've been more useful and economical.

Bryant Again

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:02 - 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDL
I do wonder though: what kind of idiot would shell out 70 quid for three linked games upfront..and then discover they don't like them?
Well I remember Walmart having all three for 40 bucks at one point, so maybe he was just like "oh what the hell."

Nonetheless I've been seeing them go pretty cheap at everywhere else.

Eviance

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:04 - 66
Now now guys, he is likely used to playing Final Fantasy games where the graphics are just uber and instead of little red and blue bars a little guy in a pointy hat comes out, waves his wand in the air, and casts Cure and the numbers go UP! Who needs silly bars! Gah the nerve of game designers!

/sarcasm

As far as the community boards go, he must have been on a guild board of sorts where people post pics of themselves and talk about the muzik they like.
>_>

If the poor soul thinks GW is chunky then he obviously hasn't seen EQ *sighs* It makes my eyes hurt watching my brother get all excited about his uber blocky weapons -_-

tmr819

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:06 - 67
The reviewer evidently missed the irony of stating:

Quote:
Unfortunately, this saddened me to see such a huge and thriving community so involved in such a mediocre, standard game.
Gee, lots of people enjoying a game. Um, uh, what exactly is a game for, if not that? In short, a rather clueless review by a rather clueless reviewer.

Shadow Spirit

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:06 - 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by Balan Makki
This isn't a review, it's only pretending to be.

It's a blog about a boy who wants to grow up to design the Perfect MMO.
QFT.

The mere fact that he identifies himself as an aspiring game designer discredits this review. Real Game designers don't play games and then write blogs about how they suck. They make games that are better instead.

Bryant Again

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:08 - 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmr819
Gee, lots of people enjoying a game. Um, uh, what exactly is a game for, if not that? In short, a rather clueless review by a rather clueless reviewer.
I'd also think that given the fact that the thought the community was "nice" that he didn't get much farther than level 5.

Also:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reviewer
I am a huge mmo(massively-multiplayer online) fan and had heard nothing but good things about Guild Wars
That in itself is a guaranteed road to disappointment.

Jennie

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:16 - 70
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The game boasted beautiful landscapes and great graphics. But when I played it, I was disappointed. Yes, it was significantly better aesthetically than the free mmo’s out there, but this was a major title game.
Ok so I have an entirely different view on the graphics. Actually before I got involved with guild wars (places the biggest noob hat on her head possible) I sat down with my boyfriend who plays all sorts of mmos and tried to decide on what one I would start playing. Not really being a gamer myself at that point I picked the one that was most visually appealing. The graphics in guild wars were breathtaking. So I started playing guild wars because it was pretty lol. But then again I didn't turn the graphics on low

Back then I prolly wouldn't have given Guild Wars a raving review because I didn't have as much knowledge about the game. I don't think its this guys fault he didn't like it. Until you delve deeper and get a better over all picture the game can seem pretty boring. I had many "oooooooohhhh!!! Now I get it." points during my first few months of playing. However, it is his fault for publishing the review without an entire understanding for the game :-p lol.

I think the whole article itself speaks to the fact he never played the game enough to make an informed review. As much as I love guild wars I can see how someone could make a review about things that need to be changed or altered in the game but the things this guy brought up were just so crazy. No need to make anymore quotes as its been quoted to pieces lol.

Dev121

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:26 - 71
These forums are biased. You like the game and that is all that matters, your not gunna say a game you like is crap but someone else will. Yes that wasnt a big enough review for a MMO thats why you should'nt take any notice, doing so is just wasting your time, go play guild wars.

Crom The Pale

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06 Dec 2007 at 17:51 - 72
WoW...I've spent 4500+ hours playing a game that got a bad review, guess I wasted all that time having fun.

Given that I am no where near the high end of hours spent playing GW I would sugest that the review was done by a person that spent less than 4hours playing or just has no clue what makes a great game to begin with.

Croco Clouds

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06 Dec 2007 at 19:37 - 73
It's just one person's review, who cares...

tepp

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06 Dec 2007 at 19:37 - 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Umm, you want good video game reviews?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...sassin-s-Creed

Have fun.

He is going to do GW:EN soon. Oh, I can't wait.
When did Yahtzee say this?????

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06 Dec 2007 at 19:56 - 75
Curse you > I will be the first person to make an FPS that has no guns!

Hexen.

Darksun

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06 Dec 2007 at 20:18 - 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxage
Look at the detail on those weapons.
you're actually saying those are better graphics than GW? You just like flashy glowy weapons. The graphics are still blocky & dated.

Bryant Again

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06 Dec 2007 at 20:23 - 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
you're actually saying those are better graphics than GW? You just like flashy glowy weapons. The graphics are still blocky & dated.
The new weapons in gear do have a higher poly count than previous WoW creations. And there's still the quality shading effects on the weapons too, not something that can be shown in a screenshot.

The bows also have strings on them, I forgot to mention.

Squishy ftw

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06 Dec 2007 at 20:28 - 78
Quote:
You even had to manage the red bar and blue bar (some sort of health and magic point displays).
The definition of epic failure..

I was speechless for a while after reading just that sentence.

Martin Firestorm

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06 Dec 2007 at 21:05 - 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxage
Yes, Warcraft has bad graphics... lol
WoW fanboy strikes again. Must you insert this stuff in every thread here? You know, there are probably a couple other sites that would be more conducive to your WoW fanboyism--like a WoW site maybe?

IlikeGW

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06 Dec 2007 at 21:23 - 80
I don't think any MMO or MMO-alike deserves that great a rating at the end of the day, because they are what they are... dumbed down gameplay with a 'casino drop' aspect to try to keep people hooked. Guild Wars is not above that at all. In the future though inevitably some cool devs will start making gameplay centric MMO's more deserving of kudos and great review scores.