Well I had a bit of an experiment: I sold and bought Z keys from people to make a profit, but asked anyone I sold a key to to let me come with them and see the drops, so I have records of over 75 Z key drops(no SS, sry)
Also sry about lacking full names or reqs sometimes, couldn't always see what others had gotten in time.
Gothic Axe Q11
Emblazoned Defender
Golden Maul
Legendary Sword (q11 and q10 versions)
Ancient Scythe
Embossed Aegis
Fire Prism
Spatha
Jeweled Chakram
Bramble Hornbow
Jeweled Staff
Igneous Maul
Spined Focus
Stonehead Hammer
Sharktooth Shield
Earth Staff
4 tomes
10 firewaters
14 creme brulees
3 different tonics
Unfortunately, I didn't manage to write down what some of the other drops were, but most were crap. Very first Z keys I used got me the Legendary Sword, but after that mainly tons of cremes and firewaters. In my opinion, chances are you are much better off just saving the money to buy a weapon from a person than trying your hand at a Z chest, as you can spend 100k on keys and get back only 20k in value.
Post your Zaishen Chest drops HERE!
thesupersaver
Risus
You people don't realize this is all a waste of time. You are messing up your probablity. The chance to get a crappy item on first drop is 2/3 about, then next would be 2/3 again, then 2/3 again, and if you actually take the number of rare item drops, it is about 1/250. Probablity is a LIE. Instead of getting 1 out of every 250, you get 1 out of 500 or 1 out of 1 if you are lucky. Its all the computer, and the computer is AGAINST YOU!
As for your statement ^^^^^^, I spent 10k in keys got back 50k. 2 elite rit tomes (holy crap 2 out of 3) and a OK r11 celestial sword.
But, 2 keys:
1 r11 15^enchanted 20/20 20% briarwood scythe
1 firewater.
As for your statement ^^^^^^, I spent 10k in keys got back 50k. 2 elite rit tomes (holy crap 2 out of 3) and a OK r11 celestial sword.
But, 2 keys:
1 r11 15^enchanted 20/20 20% briarwood scythe
1 firewater.
Annihilation
250 Keys:
70 Rare Items
22 Tomes
3 Elite Tomes
1 Yuletide Tonics
71 Crème Brûlées
5 Transmogrifier Tonics
8 Beetle Juice Tonics
65 Flasks of Firewater
5 Lockpicks
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250 Keys:
76 Rare Items
26 Tomes
2 Elite Tomes
3 Yuletide Tonics
70 Crème Brûlées
4 Transmogrifier Tonics
5 Beetle Juice Tonics
56 Flasks of Firewater
8 Lockpicks
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250 Keys:
64 Rare Items
32 Tomes
6 Elite Tomes
3 Yuletide Tonics
76 Crème Brûlées
0 Transmogrifier Tonics
4 Beetle Juice Tonics
61 Flasks of Firewater
4 Lockpicks
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250 Keys:
70 Rare Items
26 Tomes
5 Elite Tomes
3 Yuletide Tonics
68 Crème Brûlées
5 Transmogrifier Tonics
4 Beetle Juice Tonics
59 Flasks of Firewater
10 Lockpicks
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208 Keys:
68 Rare Items
21 Tomes
2 Elite Tomes
4 Yuletide Tonics
51 Crème Brûlées
1 Transmogrifier Tonics
4 Beetle Juice Tonics
50 Flasks of Firewater
7 Lockpicks
---Total---
3333 Keys: 100%
974 Rare Items (29.22%)
366 Tomes (10.98%)
73 Elite Tomes (2.19%)
59 Yuletide Tonics (1.77%)
873 Crème Brûlées (26.19%)
43 Transmogrifier Tonics (1.29%)
56 Beetle Juice Tonics (1.68%)
798 Flasks of Firewater (23.94%)
91 Lockpicks (2.73%)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ ¨
45 Warrior Tomes
32 Ranger Tomes
27 Monk Tomes
31 Necromancer Tomes
34 Mesmer Tomes
22 Elementalist Tomes
48 Assassin Tomes
38 Ritualist Tomes
42 Paragon Tomes
47 Dervish Tomes
4 Elite Warrior Tomes
9 Elite Ranger Tomes
5 Elite Monk Tomes
11 Elite Necromancer Tomes
12 Elite Mesmer Tomes
6 Elite Elementalist Tomes
12 Elite Assassin Tomes
6 Elite Ritualist Tomes
4 Elite Paragon Tomes
4 Elite Dervish Tomes
70 Rare Items
22 Tomes
3 Elite Tomes
1 Yuletide Tonics
71 Crème Brûlées
5 Transmogrifier Tonics
8 Beetle Juice Tonics
65 Flasks of Firewater
5 Lockpicks
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250 Keys:
76 Rare Items
26 Tomes
2 Elite Tomes
3 Yuletide Tonics
70 Crème Brûlées
4 Transmogrifier Tonics
5 Beetle Juice Tonics
56 Flasks of Firewater
8 Lockpicks
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250 Keys:
64 Rare Items
32 Tomes
6 Elite Tomes
3 Yuletide Tonics
76 Crème Brûlées
0 Transmogrifier Tonics
4 Beetle Juice Tonics
61 Flasks of Firewater
4 Lockpicks
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250 Keys:
70 Rare Items
26 Tomes
5 Elite Tomes
3 Yuletide Tonics
68 Crème Brûlées
5 Transmogrifier Tonics
4 Beetle Juice Tonics
59 Flasks of Firewater
10 Lockpicks
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208 Keys:
68 Rare Items
21 Tomes
2 Elite Tomes
4 Yuletide Tonics
51 Crème Brûlées
1 Transmogrifier Tonics
4 Beetle Juice Tonics
50 Flasks of Firewater
7 Lockpicks
---Total---
3333 Keys: 100%
974 Rare Items (29.22%)
366 Tomes (10.98%)
73 Elite Tomes (2.19%)
59 Yuletide Tonics (1.77%)
873 Crème Brûlées (26.19%)
43 Transmogrifier Tonics (1.29%)
56 Beetle Juice Tonics (1.68%)
798 Flasks of Firewater (23.94%)
91 Lockpicks (2.73%)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ ¨
45 Warrior Tomes
32 Ranger Tomes
27 Monk Tomes
31 Necromancer Tomes
34 Mesmer Tomes
22 Elementalist Tomes
48 Assassin Tomes
38 Ritualist Tomes
42 Paragon Tomes
47 Dervish Tomes
4 Elite Warrior Tomes
9 Elite Ranger Tomes
5 Elite Monk Tomes
11 Elite Necromancer Tomes
12 Elite Mesmer Tomes
6 Elite Elementalist Tomes
12 Elite Assassin Tomes
6 Elite Ritualist Tomes
4 Elite Paragon Tomes
4 Elite Dervish Tomes
RavagerOfDreams
i feel bad for you
like 1k keys and nothing overly notable QQ
like 1k keys and nothing overly notable QQ
fenix
Total:
3333 Keys: 100%
Watttt...
Alternatively...you could have sold all those for almost 10 million gold. Instead...you use them to um...why did you use them again?
3333 Keys: 100%
Watttt...
Alternatively...you could have sold all those for almost 10 million gold. Instead...you use them to um...why did you use them again?
KycooGhost
The 3333 keys is great for the percents that were provided. It gives a better Idea as to what the drop rate is like. Might want to provide a link for gw.gamwikis.org and wiki.guildwars so that they can add this data to their figures of drop rates and such.
Yawgmoth
Nice statistics, I think we can round them and make probabilities assumptions based on those and on previous massive openings. If the real values used by the random generator are round, I think they look like this:
Gold Item .... 30.0%
Reg Tome.... 10.0%
Elite Tome... 2.5%
Tonic.......... 5.0%
Creme......... 25.0%
Flask........... 25.0%
Lockpick...... 2.5%
TOTAL:....... 100.0%
Gold Item .... 30.0%
Reg Tome.... 10.0%
Elite Tome... 2.5%
Tonic.......... 5.0%
Creme......... 25.0%
Flask........... 25.0%
Lockpick...... 2.5%
TOTAL:....... 100.0%
jinzo7
NoXiFy
KycooGhost
going by whats in his invitory he had 5 keys and used 2 got crem and water and used 3rd to get the spear... yea that should make you sick...
masta_yoda
actually he had 6 keys the 4th key was the voltaic ... fools lol ^
SirSausage
I see that the Creme droprate is just ridiculous.
26% chance? /facepalm
26% chance? /facepalm
ShadowsRequiem
5 Keys
One lockpick before was cutoff.
One lockpick before was cutoff.
Luca Firestorm
Now i am not exactly sure how much everything is worth, but i can make up a few values to get the reward probability outcome.
Golds: 300 gold on average at 0.3
Tome: 100 gold on average at 0.1
ETome: 10000 gold on average 0.025
Tonic: 200 gold on average at 0.05
Creme: 300 gold on average at 0.25
Flask: 200 gold on average at 0.25
Lockpick: 1250 gold on average at 0.025.
Now the average gain/loss can be calculated via:
0.3*300+0.1*100+0.025*10000+0.05*200+300*0.25+0.25 *200+0.025*1250
= 516 approximately
Therefore for sellers and buyers to trade evenly they should be sold at that.
If my estimations were incorrect plz correct them and a more accurate final value can be determined.
If we take into account gold weapons that can actually be sold for a large amount we can approximate it this way (although rather roughly). We know that it takes at least 3333 keys to get anything remotely good. Lets say that u can sell that at 500000 gold. 500 000 / 3333 = 150. 150+516= 666.
THen that is the price zaishen keys should be sold at.
Golds: 300 gold on average at 0.3
Tome: 100 gold on average at 0.1
ETome: 10000 gold on average 0.025
Tonic: 200 gold on average at 0.05
Creme: 300 gold on average at 0.25
Flask: 200 gold on average at 0.25
Lockpick: 1250 gold on average at 0.025.
Now the average gain/loss can be calculated via:
0.3*300+0.1*100+0.025*10000+0.05*200+300*0.25+0.25 *200+0.025*1250
= 516 approximately
Therefore for sellers and buyers to trade evenly they should be sold at that.
If my estimations were incorrect plz correct them and a more accurate final value can be determined.
If we take into account gold weapons that can actually be sold for a large amount we can approximate it this way (although rather roughly). We know that it takes at least 3333 keys to get anything remotely good. Lets say that u can sell that at 500000 gold. 500 000 / 3333 = 150. 150+516= 666.
THen that is the price zaishen keys should be sold at.
Kikuta
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blah blah = 666.
THen that is the price zaishen keys should be sold at. |
*restores GW*
WTS Zaishen Keys 4k ea
X Tigercat X
wow im loling at how much people spend on z keys. all those keys gone to waste. it makes me sad. I only use keys i earn or buy a couple when a friend needs cash. That way it doesnt become and addiction and i dont blow all my cash on it.
PS. I'd b willing to open the chest for u unlucky people for a small price
PS. I'd b willing to open the chest for u unlucky people for a small price
Pleikki
You guys been lucky lately! gz everyone for good drops. i havent been able play cus videocard crashed 
Just.nl
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250 Keys:
70 Rare Items 22 Tomes 3 Elite Tomes 1 Yuletide Tonics 71 Crème Brûlées 5 Transmogrifier Tonics 8 Beetle Juice Tonics 65 Flasks of Firewater 5 Lockpicks ----------------------- 250 Keys: 76 Rare Items 26 Tomes 2 Elite Tomes 3 Yuletide Tonics 70 Crème Brûlées 4 Transmogrifier Tonics 5 Beetle Juice Tonics 56 Flasks of Firewater 8 Lockpicks ----------------------- 250 Keys: 64 Rare Items 32 Tomes 6 Elite Tomes 3 Yuletide Tonics 76 Crème Brûlées 0 Transmogrifier Tonics 4 Beetle Juice Tonics 61 Flasks of Firewater 4 Lockpicks ----------------------- 250 Keys: 70 Rare Items 26 Tomes 5 Elite Tomes 3 Yuletide Tonics 68 Crème Brûlées 5 Transmogrifier Tonics 4 Beetle Juice Tonics 59 Flasks of Firewater 10 Lockpicks ----------------------- 208 Keys: 68 Rare Items 21 Tomes 2 Elite Tomes 4 Yuletide Tonics 51 Crème Brûlées 1 Transmogrifier Tonics 4 Beetle Juice Tonics 50 Flasks of Firewater 7 Lockpicks ---Total--- 3333 Keys: 100% 974 Rare Items (29.22%) 366 Tomes (10.98%) 73 Elite Tomes (2.19%) 59 Yuletide Tonics (1.77%) 873 Crème Brûlées (26.19%) 43 Transmogrifier Tonics (1.29%) 56 Beetle Juice Tonics (1.68%) 798 Flasks of Firewater (23.94%) 91 Lockpicks (2.73%) ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ ¨ 45 Warrior Tomes 32 Ranger Tomes 27 Monk Tomes 31 Necromancer Tomes 34 Mesmer Tomes 22 Elementalist Tomes 48 Assassin Tomes 38 Ritualist Tomes 42 Paragon Tomes 47 Dervish Tomes 4 Elite Warrior Tomes 9 Elite Ranger Tomes 5 Elite Monk Tomes 11 Elite Necromancer Tomes 12 Elite Mesmer Tomes 6 Elite Elementalist Tomes 12 Elite Assassin Tomes 6 Elite Ritualist Tomes 4 Elite Paragon Tomes 4 Elite Dervish Tomes |
Did you make profit?
Really amazing that you spended so much keys but thats really lots of cash how much are that keys worth 2,5k ea?thats its
3333x2,5=8333,2K cash :S but if you got any mods good stuff sold things for much and got maybe lots of cash already
but you see 3333 keys and still no crystalline.. maybe someone use 1 key and then a crystalline sword :S
кιωι
^ 3333x2,5=8,332,500g = 8.3mil, not 8billion 
Dronte
Why do you think he bought the keys?? Thats sad that ppl cant realize its easy to get more than 10 keys from balthazar faction lol..
FluffyBunny007
^3333 keys from balthazar faction?
16,665,000 faction i think...thats pretty impressive.
Heh, on topic,
2 cremes,
firewater,
2 bad golds
16,665,000 faction i think...thats pretty impressive.
Heh, on topic,
2 cremes,
firewater,
2 bad golds
Dronte
You can also get keys using tournament reward pts.
FluffyBunny007
But then it wouldnt be from balthazar faction like you said.
still 16665 reward points alone of some combination, just assuming that that would take quite a bit of effort to get although i dont predict so i dunno how many it gives
anyways lets stop, it doesnt really matter if he bought them or not does it?
still 16665 reward points alone of some combination, just assuming that that would take quite a bit of effort to get although i dont predict so i dunno how many it gives
anyways lets stop, it doesnt really matter if he bought them or not does it?
NiukNiuk
netniwk
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money grind shit lame
Shadowspawn X
WTF does Anet keep coming out with titles that can be easily brought? This crap has got to stop.
Moral55
another title that allows me to NOT get cartographers. YAY!
And "only" 20,000 Keys for the max title (50k Plat) = (2.5 * 20000).
Edit: I meant to put a "k", now I did.
And "only" 20,000 Keys for the max title (50k Plat) = (2.5 * 20000).
Edit: I meant to put a "k", now I did.
Dwarf Teh Guru
is that a joke? tryed everything, typed /zaishen, /zrank and oppened the zaishen chest a few times, no new title and no points.
Aba
I see Regina Buenaobra is peering at this thread, Me thinks alot of more nice drops will be seen.
10 keys
6 consumables
1 tonic
3 merch food golds
10 keys
6 consumables
1 tonic
3 merch food golds
Steboy93
I decided to open 1 and got a firewater
The update hasn't been implemented as of yet.
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is that a joke? tryed everything, typed /zaishen, /zrank and oppened the zaishen chest a few times, no new title and no points.
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Firebaall
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Originally Posted by Moral55
another title that allows me to NOT get cartographers. YAY!
And "only" 20,000 Keys for the max title (50 Plat) = (2.5 * 20000). |
I think you're missing zeros.
2.5 is not 2500. ;P
The Arching Healer
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Originally Posted by Moral55
another title that allows me to NOT get cartographers. YAY!
And "only" 20,000 Keys for the max title (50 Plat) = (2.5 * 20000). |
ShadowsRequiem
Lol another title that means nothing
the emote is pretty crappy too.
I hope they give us the number of keys we have used before cause thats gonna suck to Mr 3333
the emote is pretty crappy too.
I hope they give us the number of keys we have used before cause thats gonna suck to Mr 3333
KartMan
just got a phantasmal tonic from zaishen chest (normal white one)
Burton2000
R10 Jade Sword
R13 Stygian Reaver
R13 Fellblade
R13 Bramble Longbow
R10 Ruby Daggers
R9 Dead Sword
and a phantasml tonic. Probably the best drops ive ever got.
R13 Stygian Reaver
R13 Fellblade
R13 Bramble Longbow
R10 Ruby Daggers
R9 Dead Sword
and a phantasml tonic. Probably the best drops ive ever got.
Alvarez
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WTF does Anet keep coming out with titles that can be easily brought? This crap has got to stop.
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Yes it can be bought - but not everyone buys the keys. Not every Guild Wars player is a millionaire.
On topic: 2 keys - 2 firewaters
greyhawk
i used 60 keys last night and they dont count :P
13 keys today and all junk. the phantom tonic is neat tho i got one of thos and used it to see what it looked like, looks like rifts form UW
13 keys today and all junk. the phantom tonic is neat tho i got one of thos and used it to see what it looked like, looks like rifts form UW
therangereminem
what i think is funny the pople that opened this thing over 4k times lreadyt oget nothign good and now none of those times count for new title pwned....
lol just started laughing a storm when i saw the new title btw bought title yeah how many pople have enough to buy this title today not many if none at all becuz finding that many keys will take you all day and night fo a week or two
btw max will cost you 60,000k not 50k
lol just started laughing a storm when i saw the new title btw bought title yeah how many pople have enough to buy this title today not many if none at all becuz finding that many keys will take you all day and night fo a week or two
btw max will cost you 60,000k not 50k
Dwarf Teh Guru
Used 30 Zaishen Keys:
Celestial Compass (Req11 Channeling)
Amethyst Aegis (Req12 Tactics)
+150 Zaishen Points ofcorse
Best Zaishen run i've ever had so far..
Celestial Compass (Req11 Channeling)
Amethyst Aegis (Req12 Tactics)
+150 Zaishen Points ofcorse
Best Zaishen run i've ever had so far..
take_me
Bad update.... it made me buy keys again......^^
90% flasks, cremes, tomes....
Ye.... they'd be rank 6 now.....
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90% flasks, cremes, tomes....
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lol sucks to the guys who just blew away 1000 keys =O
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