Should we earn gladiator title points in AB?

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

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I have to admit to being new to pvp and AB.

I ran out of stuff to do and figured I would try the earn faction during the double faction weekend. I'm now nearly on rank 3 kurzack and finding I enjoy it (when we win and the team caps and doent mob).

I then tried RA yesterday thinking it would be fun....

...and it wasnt. I tried alot of pvp characters and builds and nothing really impressed me. I found 4v4 teams and the constant loosing and the needing 5 wins to earn a point tedious and frustrating. I'm not saying that mechanism is bad and needs changed, I just personally dont like it.

I would have to then assume I would dislike TA and heroe accent if I got that far.

I also have to admit that when I first started playin AB I assumed all battles accessed from the guild hall or the battle ayles gave gladiator points, and I was a bit disapointed to found out otherwise.

So why not?

Why is it that AB (which in my mind isnt that different to RA because your fighting other humans and that falls under pvp to me) doesnt give gladiator points?

I realise the AB battles occur in cantha and not the battle ayles, but surely its pvp (I know that will cause a debate) and it should give gladiator points!

I'm sure it could be changed to do that! Even if its only on point for ever given amount of faction you earn when fighting.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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bumble bee

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YES! thank you for this idea, that would increase my Glad point alot!

/sign enthusiastically.

FireFox

FireFox

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

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lol, are you kidding?

AscalonWarrior

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Yup /signed

Would help us who don't like RA or TA

Proff

Proff

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Join Date: Jun 2007

Cause ab takes barely any skill to do, hell some people even afk and leech points. Gl trying to do that in any other form of pvp and win.

BlackSephir

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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lol, are you kidding?
Actually, I think he's pretty serious and that's what makes it so sad.
Hey, I've got another awesome question: should we earn fame in AB?!1/!?1/11/

AscalonWarrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Proff
Cause ab takes barely any skill to do, hell some people even afk and leech points. Gl trying to do that in any other form of pvp and win.
And people don't leech in RA?

Tab

Tab

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Under a bridge

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Hey, I don't like GvG! Champ points for AB plx!

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

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but seriously, the difficulty level in TA is about 10x higher then that in AB. It would be pretty unfair. PUGing in arenas will become a nightmare as well, as there's many ranked teams forming.

artay

artay

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Proff
Cause ab takes barely any skill to do, hell some people even afk and leech points. Gl trying to do that in any other form of pvp and win.
Because winning in RA takes so much skill?

Avarre

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You can be pants-on-head retarded and still win AB.

Granted, this applies to RA for the most part as well but as it stands Glad points are exclusively for 4v4 arenas. There's no reason to extend them to AB because , for one thing, there are no consecutive victories, and secondly because your own contribution is watered down by the fact you're in a giant team of lunatics against another team of lunatics in a sea of NPCs battling over capture points.

Iotan

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
Hey, I don't like GvG! Champ points for AB plx!
Bravo!

To OP:
NO!

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Glad points are for beating another team of 4 in straight-up combat. AB is capping shrines and perhaps fighting a skirmish with another team of 4. They are completely different forms of PvP and thus this is a terrible idea.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
And people don't leech in RA?
Hey, here's an idea.
Don't like RA/TA? Forget about Gladiator.
Don't like HA? Forget about Hero.
Don't like GvG? Forget about Champion.
Don't like HB? Forget about Commander.


You have your AB, you have your Friend of K/L title.

Quote:
Because winning in RA takes so much skill?
That's why many people are for removing glad title from RA, cpt. Obvious. Go figure.

Prof Of Black

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roflmao lol

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Alexandra-Sweet

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What about they fix AB first and then introduce Gladiator Points? AB is the worst form of PvP (except for Fort Aspenwood)

With fixing I mean getting rid of the random grouping, the lag and the retarted npc's/maps.

Stormlord Alex

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Proff

Proff

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Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
And people don't leech in RA?
Not if they want to win...

-Pluto-

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Here's an idea... if you don't like RA or TA, don't try to get a Glad title. Shocking idea, I know. Instead, you could work on another title. Too bad AB doesn't already have something like that, right?

Earth

Earth

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Join Date: Jul 2006

No. That would only lessen the meaning of the Gladiator title - AB already has a title, we don't need another one. You admit you're new to PvP and AB - then don't come up with stupid ideas before you get more experienced.

Saphatorael

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
Yup /signed

Would help us who don't like RA or TA
RA and TA give Gladiator Points, Alliance Battles indirectly give you Alliance Points.
Keep it that way, else I demand that winning in RA/TA also gives Luxon/Kurzick faction... and everybody knows that's just nonsensical.
And for the people using the "but it's a form of pvp too!"-argument. Yes, it's PvP, but its purpose lies in PvE, and it gives you PvE benefits. Gladiator Titles don't.

/unsign and /burn

~ Dan ~

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Because AB takes alot of skill to win....

Pyro maniac

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and plx gif fame to RA, I want bambi

/notsigned

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

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Your backline

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No, we should not get glad points in AB...

Every retard can leech his way to victory in AB.
But when you get a retard in RA you'll need 3 pretty decent/good team mates and some luck with the enemy teams to win..

so ye../notsigned

Divinus Stella

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Wow these are all really good ideas, while were breaking the pvp title system why dont we give champ points for farming underworld and give out fame for doing thunderhead keep!

RhanoctJocosa

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AB should also give champ points because only true champions can win at ab. Rank12 kurzack/luxon players should also be able to perform the phoenix emote because they rawk.

Acehigh

Acehigh

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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We already get a title for farming faction in AB or FFF, so I see no point to this.

fenix

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Wait, this thread is still open? This is madness. Glad points in AB would be a joke, because AB is glorified PvE. It has almost a 0 skill level on the whole, and teams can win with 3-4 players AFK.

This has to be a joke, no one would suggest something this stupid...right? Right guys? Guys? Hey...where'd you all go?

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

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Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

should we earn lightbringer points killing grawls in talus chute?

Isileth

Isileth

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Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

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If you read the other comments you dont need me to tell you why

Onarik Amrak

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Sounds silly, especially because AB isn't really an "arena".

Im Using The Force

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Everything thats wrong with pvp in a nutshell. You used to be able to get Glad Points in the Zaishen Arena lol It took like 18 months just to get them to tweak AB so the wait wouldnt be 2+hours on Kaanai & Ancestral. We all know how adept Isiah is at balance and the amount of effort that will be put into anything that isnt HA or GvG. Even having the maps set to less than 3 hours per rotation would take a huge amount of effort. HZH & Cavalon never fall so it is indeed, just another arena. Lopsided arena maps are a joke. Good Luck man

Stranger The Ranger

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I lol'd

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

/notsigned.......
AB is even more minor than RA
plus AB gives you access to a KoaBD title limit i heard from a mate(who is r4 KoaBD)

Sab

Sab

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Riverside has just hit a new low.

Edit: Since the thread has been moved, I retract my previous statement. I believe this thread is on par with the other retarded suggestions in Sardelac.

~ Dan ~

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
plus AB gives you access to a KoaBD title limit i heard from a mate(who is r4 KoaBD)
So does RA...

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sab
Riverside has just hit a new low.
Sab has spoken. Nothing to see here. Move along people.

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
So does RA...
<- pr0 rushtyper!

Lord Sojar

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The glad title was already made.... silly with the recent update. Let's not add more retardedness to it. (yes i made up that word, leave me alone)

JaiGaia

JaiGaia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Because AB takes alot of skill to win....

god i'm hoping he was being sarcastic ..... /not signed and i hope that the OP did this for "gits and shiggles"

im all for a emote just one for ABers and thats if they max their rank of their respected faction lux/kurz but not bc of skill but bc of time invested and most probably have been playing ab awhile too get that high. It also seems fitting since factions gets no love which brings me to the next point too not everyone has factions so is that fair to the non faction players to be able to farm some glad pts via AB battles? simply NO ...but giving a new emote could mean the upping for factions sales

btw to the OP this is the most insulting thing ever asked to be discussed or debated ive ever read thank u for the laugh though lol

Sab

Sab

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Join Date: Dec 2005

I guess no one has asked this of the OP, but why do you want Glad points? It's not a prestigious title, you're never going to max it and it doesn't make gold animals fly out of you.

By the way, good luck on the R3 Kurzack.