Thank you for the trial and Eye of the North Anet :)

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

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Thanks Anet, some of my guildies discouraged me from buying this expansion, and thus i didnt want to waste my money...however now that ive tried it out with your trial, ive bought it using your store, thanks very much. Its a very nice campaign and has many new features. I love the whole reputation thing plus the boxing and polymock. i was very curious as to find out about Jora and the asura, and i love the snowy setting - very atmospheric.

So thank you again

- From a very satisfied customer

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

umm turtle...buddy

Buy me Eotn too =P

I liked the trial, althoughI found it to be an hour short IMO

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Your guildies were right, you shouldn't have bought it. 2 weeks from now, post here, and you'll be in the same boat as all of us, regretting wasting our money.

~ Dan ~

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by Turtle222
i was very curious as to find out about Jora
Wahey, i wonder why

Jora has to be the USP of EOTN

fenix

fenix

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zzz Jora, Livia kthx.

But seriously, EOTN is fun the first time, or so, but once you finish the story, there's literally NO content aside from grind.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by fenix
zzz Jora, Livia kthx.

But seriously, EOTN is fun the first time, or so, but once you finish the story, there's literally NO content aside from grind.
Dungeons are considered grind? Whoa ok.

fenix

fenix

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Well they are, if you think about it. The content ends at the storyline, the rest is just grinding. Like the titles, like the dungeons, and the rest.

FireFox

FireFox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Well they are, if you think about it. The content ends at the storyline, the rest is just grinding. Like the titles, like the dungeons, and the rest.
I forgot that anet had a gun to your head making you grind titles. You are win.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

It would be grind if you did nothing but killing snowmen. And i suppose that's what you did before you decided the expansion sucked.

fenix

fenix

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Trust a ZoS member to post that sort of garbage. You should know better, since you spend so much time cuddling with them.

The game doesn't FORCE you to do anything, but after the storyline, there is nothing but repeating Dungeons and Missions. Which, to my knowledge, is what grind IS. People just grind the dungeons for the chests, if they don't want to get the titles. Grind is grind.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFox
I forgot that anet had a gun to your head making you grind titles. You are win.
pretty sure if there's nothing to do but grinding then to play the game you have to grind. anet may not have a gun to your head but it's that or quit the game.

please be more of an idiot.

but i guess ZoS don't have that problem with pve/grind issue- they just go ROCK FACE IN HA LOLOLOL

FireFox

FireFox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
pretty sure if there's nothing to do but grinding then to play the game you have to grind. anet may not have a gun to your head but it's that or quit the game.
OoOooorrr you could go play some other part of the game?

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFox
OoOooorrr you could go play some other part of the game?
lol but we are talking about eotn and how beyond the storyline there's nothing but boring grind. i.e. it sucks
??????????

FireFox

FireFox

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
lol but we are talking about eotn and how beyond the storyline there's nothing but boring grind. i.e. it sucks
??????????
its an expansion, did you really expect to only play it and nothing else?

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Well they are, if you think about it. The content ends at the storyline, the rest is just grinding. Like the titles, like the dungeons, and the rest.
Ah right. So basically everything but primary missions / quests is grind. It all makes sense to me now.

NecroticChanter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Toronto

Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]

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Good job Anet for the GW:EN promotion but now if i realized u were gonna do this I wouldn't have wasted my money on a TINY portion of land to explore and the same armor as some of the other campaigns....Good job...

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Ah right. So basically everything but primary missions / quests is grind. It all makes sense to me now.
Don't know why you're being sarcastic. PvP aside, that's exactly how it is.

but ur gud kk

fenix

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Ah right. So basically everything but primary missions / quests is grind. It all makes sense to me now.
It is, because it's repeatable and has no end goal. Which = grind. How is that hard to understand?

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

So was everything in the previous chapters, troll. Now get out of this game with your acid and most importantly: Don't claim you speak for "everyone here" EVER again, comprende?

fenix

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot
So was everything in the previous chapters, troll. Now get out of this game with your acid and most importantly: Don't claim you speak for "everyone here" EVER again, comprende?
Who are you, and why are you posting? I'll have you know I've played GW since release, and I still do, in fact I quite enjoy the game even after so long. I have done a lot of PvP, and a lot of PvE. The fact is, EOTN sucked. It was short, it was all grind, and it wasn't enjoyable. You'll find that most people agree, if you read the forums at all after release. Just because you don't understand what grind is, doesn't mean that I'm a troll. Learn english, then come back to guru, or better yet, just go somewhere else. I've seen your other 'posts', and you call me the troll? Hahahah.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot
So was everything in the previous chapters, troll. Now get out of this game with your acid and most importantly: Don't claim you speak for "everyone here" EVER again, comprende?
PvE was only supposed to be played for the storyline, and once you did that you worked on unlocking runes, upgrades, skills etc. for PvP. With the introduction of titles and such it's become a complete grindfest that by nature is incredibly boring and thus, in the case of EOTN, a complete waste of money. GB2gwo you failure.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

No, the people who agree with you just make a lot of noise. Fact is: Someone started a positive tread, and you quickly rushed in to turn it into another dissfest because you just want every single post here to be about the percieved badness of EOTN.

FireFox

FireFox

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

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yeah, insults totally help to prove your point

~ Dan ~

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
How is that hard to understand?
Because dungeons = fun. Therefore it isn't grinding. If you don't find them fun, don't do them - therefore you are not grinding either.

fenix

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Because dungeons = fun. Therefore it isn't grinding. If you don't find them fun, don't do them - therefore you are not grinding either.
You are still grinding when you do them though. That is the point. There's no end goal to Dungeons, except the chest, and so doing them is just grind. The storyline has a goal, in that you finish it. Prophecies had a goal, you become prepared for PvP. Factions had a goal, you finish the story and move to PvP (AB, etc). Nightfall had a goal, finishing the story, then grind (DoA). EOTN is the same, you finish the story and grind (Dungeons). It may be fun, as I am well aware, but it is still grind. The fact that the content is almost purely grind, shows that the game wasn't made well, and was either rushed, or just made so that players had something else to grind before GW2.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
You are still grinding when you do them though. That is the point. There's no end goal to Dungeons, except the chest, and so doing them is just grind. The storyline has a goal, in that you finish it. Prophecies had a goal, you become prepared for PvP. Factions had a goal, you finish the story and move to PvP (AB, etc). Nightfall had a goal, finishing the story, then grind (DoA). EOTN is the same, you finish the story and grind (Dungeons). It may be fun, as I am well aware, but it is still grind. The fact that the content is almost purely grind, shows that the game wasn't made well, and was either rushed, or just made so that players had something else to grind before GW2.
Things that don't have a goal=grind?
weird defintion man.

~ Dan ~

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
You are still grinding when you do them though. That is the point. There's no end goal to Dungeons, except the chest, and so doing them is just grind. The storyline has a goal, in that you finish it.
The dungeons have a goal, in that you complete them. You are just confused about what grind actually is.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

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You still missed the BMP. Hardy har har.

RhanoctJocosa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFox
yeah, insults totally help to prove your point
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
PvE was only supposed to be played for the storyline, and once you did that you worked on unlocking runes, upgrades, skills etc. for PvP. With the introduction of titles and such it's become a complete grindfest that by nature is incredibly boring and thus, in the case of EOTN, a complete waste of money. GB2gwo you failure.
.......stop posting?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
The dungeons have a goal, in that you complete them. You are just confused about what grind actually is.
Are you trying to come across as an idiot? The storyline. You complete it. Once, twice, even three times. The storyline is now "meh". Dungeons, you complete them, once, twice, three times, in normal mode and in hard mode. Do the dungeons change? Is there a new challenge everytime you enter? No. Thus, there is no real motivation to do dungeons besides grinding for titles and farming for loot. The original argument was that beyond the storyline there is nothing but grind. While the dungeons aren't really part of the storyline, they function like it. Thus, beat game --> grind titles or farm continuously (economy is terrible remember) = boring = bad = waste of money. That is what's being said. No point pursuing this, if you don't understand now you never will.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

And how is PvP not grind then? It's all about emotes to flash into random peoples faces and owning towns as far as i know. And that requires you to AB all the time, in the same areas agaisnt the same enemies with the same builds. Actually, AB is far worse since town owning guilds demand daily faction donations from their members wile filling up a dungeon guide can be done over years if you want to.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
PvE was only supposed to be played for the storyline, and once you did that you worked on unlocking runes, upgrades, skills etc. for PvP. With the introduction of titles and such it's become a complete grindfest that by nature is incredibly boring and thus, in the case of EOTN, a complete waste of money. GB2gwo you failure.
lol wut

Then what's the point of rare items? I thought the story of any campaign was the last thing someone played GW for. If all titles are grind, then why do I enjoy vanquishing and doing missions in hardmode so much?

~ Dan ~

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
.......stop posting?
Quote:
GB2gwo you failure.
So that's not an insult? Ok then.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

It's already started?
Must be the reason why I lagged today!

Didn't drop by yet - and I don't plan on doing so.
Thanks for the effort though!

Messy

Messy

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Your guildies were right, you shouldn't have bought it. 2 weeks from now, post here, and you'll be in the same boat as all of us, regretting wasting our money.

All of us MINUS moi.

I like EoTN. I am very satisfied with my purchase.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EPO Bot
No, the people who agree with you just make a lot of noise. Fact is: Someone started a positive tread, and you quickly rushed in to turn it into another dissfest because you just want every single post here to be about the percieved badness of EOTN.
QFT

Isn't that called Trolling? This was meant to be a Thanks Anet thread... those unhappy people should go to the whaaaaa whaaaaa threads and post there.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS
Why cant we be friends?
Why cant we be friends T_T
Why cant we be friends...

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

I like Eotn considering I get a ton more heroes and some sweet pve skills and new places to farm.

For the people complaining about not wanting to grind... please play pvp or quit playing Guild Wars altogether. Getting money and title takes work and if you are not willing to put in that work then you do not deserve the title and / or money. Again no one is forcing you to play this game and get titles, sell your account to one of your friends at least you may get enough to buy a new game.

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix

The game doesn't FORCE you to do anything, but after the storyline, there is nothing but repeating Dungeons and Missions. Which, to my knowledge, is what grind IS. People just grind the dungeons for the chests, if they don't want to get the titles. Grind is grind.
WRONG! I personally find the dungeons to be the BEST addition to Guild Wars. I have always loved dungeons. I do the dungeons because they are a fun, challenging, and allow to go deeper into the lore.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Well they are, if you think about it. The content ends at the storyline, the rest is just grinding. Like the titles, like the dungeons, and the rest.
The main story line ends and there are lots of little stories to see and enjoy. If you don't enjoy them, don't do them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Prophecies had a goal, you become prepared for PvP. Factions had a goal, you finish the story and move to PvP (AB, etc). Nightfall had a goal, finishing the story, then grind (DoA). EOTN is the same, you finish the story and grind (Dungeons).
To be prepared for PvP and DoA? Where on earth did you get those ideas? I was never doing that so I could do PvP. Sure, I've done it and even won halls, but finishing the game wasn't about doing PvP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
It may be fun, as I am well aware, but it is still grind. The fact that the content is almost purely grind, shows that the game wasn't made well, and was either rushed, or just made so that players had something else to grind before GW2.
If it's a grind to you, then don't do it. If you don't like the game then don't play it, I'm sure wow would love to have you.

Razz Thom

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

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sorry i hate to say it but the truest statement made today here is that PvP is just grind. therefor why would i want to beat the storyline just to grind in PvP?


P.S. EotN is good so STFU and let Anet accept their props gracefully.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Beat Factions in 3 days, Nightfall in 5, preordered GWEN and played during the first preview and I'm still playing GWEN. Dungeons and side quests galore, both of which are much more interesting than the side stuff provided in previous chapters IMO. Better armors than previously available too, for that matter. The main story is less than 25% of the total content of the expansion, people that won't see past the briefness of the linear portion of the game are only harming themselves. For me, GWEN was the best investment since Prophecies as far as time spent in a campaign.

Thanks Anet. I wish you'd tone down a few of the PvE skills you introduced, but on the whole I'm very pleased with EotN.