Paragons... Not worthing using its elite..

[skill]Soldier's Fury[/skill] is better than [skill]Soldier's Stance[/skill].

[skill]Cautery Signet[/skill] combined with [skill]Remedy Signet[/skill] or [skill]Plague Touch[/skill] works very nicely.


[skill]"The Power Is Yours!"[/skill] combined with [skill]Ether Signet[/skill] after 10 seconds are over, also work nicely.

[skill]Focused Anger[/skill] used as a Sword'n'Shield-wielding P/W works fairly good. { You can spam [skill]Riposte[/skill] a lot .. }

[skill]"Incoming!"[/skill] combined with [skill]"They're on Fire!"[/skill] on burning foes work pretty well. { I don't know If you can have 2 shouts active at the same time.. :S }

I really don't know why you say Paragon Elites suck. I only think that they need some body building on them and that's all.

personally i love [skill]"It's just a flesh wound."[/skill]

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Depending on where you are and what you're up against, Cautery Signet can be a total godsend.

Combine with Plague Sending and...

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I just think saying Paragons don't have enough good elites is rediculous. Paragons don't have many elite skills to begin with just for the simple fact that they are in the third expansion so there are 8 other professions that have more elites to choose from.

Also, compare them to other professions, for instance, the necromancer.

i could argue that Necromancer's only have 5 good elites out of 30.

1) Spiteful Spirit
2) Spoil Victor
3) Corrupt Enchantment
4) Tainted Flesh
5) Toxic Chill

And I don't think toxic chill is that good to begin with anyways.

Another example is the Mesmer. I could argue that they only have 6 good elites out of 29

1) Energy Surge
2) Hex Eater Vortex
3) Power Block
4) Migrain
5) Ineptitude
6) Psychic Distraction

I know people use these skills but the only ones that I would even bother using are HEV and E-Surge.

That is how I look at it.

I'd add Jagged Bones to the Necro list personally

good elites and bad elites is very subjective.
I can pick an elite that is considered bad and make it awsome with the right individual and team build.

as for Paragorns, they have some good elites to work with, its not that much of a problem when you compare them to other classes...

Focused Anger- the best Paragorn elite for PvE, works nicely in PvP as well. massive adrenaline for constant spamming of shouts/chants/echoes.

Defensive Anthem- king of PvP blockway. can also work nicely in PvE, especially with a caster team.

Angelic Bond- the Paragorn version or the Bonder. the results are worse than Life Bond and you dont have Life Barrier but it's unremovable which is a huge plus. and as a Paragorn you shouldnt have trouble mitigating damage from yourself as well as your party...

Cruel Spear- ranged Eviscerate anyone? a very good elite, especially for PvP. the "problem" is that the Paragorn has enough ways to inflict deep wound even without it, unlike the Axe Warrior that only has Eviscerate and Disember. Vicious+GfTE and Merciless Spear are both easily met conditional deep wound givers. however Cruel Spear is still the easiest condition to meet and thus used a lot.

Anthem of Guidance- works nicely in PvP, mainly to open the possiblity of adrenal spike vs blockway. problem is that most PvP teams preffer Defensive Anthem over it...

Song of Restoration- pretty good party healing. combines well with other skills from the Motivation line.

Anthem of Fury- works nicely in PvE, mainly in heavy physical teams. massive party wide adrenaline pumper.

Song of Purification- nice to have in heavy condition areas, mainly in PvE as in PvP you will probably have an RC monk and off monk draw anyway...

Cautery Signet- another nice skill to have in heavy condition areas, again mainly in PvE.

Soldier's Fury- for those of you who just cant live with cracked armor this is a fine replacement for Aggressive Refain. its Elite but gives +33% instead of +25%.

those are the mainly used Paragorn elites. a nice variaty compared to other classes... but hey if you still dislike all of them you have elites from other professions that go well with the paragorn, especially no attribute elites.
2 good examples are:
Charge- goes along with a Tactics Paragorn, unconditional speed buff for your entire party.
Expel Hexes- great for hex heavy areas and to counter hexway in PvP.

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Personally I liek playing Paragon a lot, for the lack of good elites. Im using elites from other professions, for some reason most are ele's.

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my heros seem to hate me, they prefer to get hexes off me last. -_-

@pink most of the paragon shouts are energy based... so unless you go use warrior shouts, soothing and its counterparts shouldn't hurt to much.
And you can just step out of well of silence.

The only thing that caused me big problems was vocal minority due to my heros acting stopid.

Every paragon skill IS usefull most people just don't know with what to combine
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Although very situational [wiki]"can't touch this!"[/wiki] is semi-usefull from those three. [wiki]Twisting Jaws[/wiki], [wiki]Throw Dirt[/wiki], [wiki]Shock[/wiki] and so on and some challenge missions. The long recharge on it makes it a one-shot wonder though but anyway.

God blessed the day that 'can't touch this" has come out.. now those "anagrodons" or whatever they called in EOTN can't do anything cause i really hate them with this i even can farm them

No, "Can't Touch This!" is pretty useless (in PvP) because it's self-only and a very specific counter (the latter is also why it should stay dead.) As it is, someone with Shock will just go Shock someone else, and "CTT!" as a counter for Throw Dirt is absolutely silly (aside from the fact that, say, Remedy Signet is a lot more general, skill failure from "CTT!" doesn't cause recharge, so anyone who really wants to Throw Dirt you will just let it fail 3-4 times in a row. Oh noes, 6 energy lost!) I don't have EotN, but I can think of much better skills to run on a PvE Paragon.

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Paragon need better elites and in general, need more skills with uses.
We have our share of overpowered skills, but then again, most paragon skills are as nutritious as spam.
This is coming from someone who runs a very efficient paragon build.

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