I got GW Factions and Nightfall for Christmas and while I have created an Assassin to adventure through Factions, I cannot make up my mind about whether to make a Paragon or Dervish for NF. I am leaning towards Paragon because I have only played as Warrior, Elementalist and Assassin so far. How do Paragons stand up as a support character in PVP and in PVE when I decide to take a break from playing with heroes?
Thanks in advance.
Paragons worthwhile?
FLIPmode
Terraban
Good Paragon = God-mode
Bad Paragon = Warrior
Bad Paragon = Warrior
Dodo The Extinct
Paragon....although both choices are meh in terms of fun 
kunta
Dervish all the way man.
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by Terraban
Good Paragon = God-mode
Bad Paragon = Warrior I've played as a Warrior primary toon for the best part of 3 years. In comparison, a Paragon rawks as a support character. It's ability to do DPS and spam "Save Yourselves!", "There's Nothing To Fear!" and "They're on Fire!" results in massive damage mitigation and excellent party support. If i had the choice all over again, Paragon would be my pick vs Warrior.
I'm working my Para through GW:EN and NF at the moment to pick up Hayda and the General - toss in Melonni as an orders D/N for some serious Paragon party fun.
Bad Paragon = Warrior I've played as a Warrior primary toon for the best part of 3 years. In comparison, a Paragon rawks as a support character. It's ability to do DPS and spam "Save Yourselves!", "There's Nothing To Fear!" and "They're on Fire!" results in massive damage mitigation and excellent party support. If i had the choice all over again, Paragon would be my pick vs Warrior.
I'm working my Para through GW:EN and NF at the moment to pick up Hayda and the General - toss in Melonni as an orders D/N for some serious Paragon party fun.
Biostem
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Originally Posted by FLIPmode
I got GW Factions and Nightfall for Christmas and while I have created an Assassin to adventure through Factions, I cannot make up my mind about whether to make a Paragon or Dervish for NF. I am leaning towards Paragon because I have only played as Warrior, Elementalist and Assassin so far. How do Paragons stand up as a support character in PVP and in PVE when I decide to take a break from playing with heroes?
Thanks in advance. Think of it this way - a Dervish is a highly specialized warrior that focuses on applying enchantments to themselves, and having effects trigger upon the application or removal of that enchantment. Those, in conjunction w/ the way scythes work in GW, creates a melee character adept at causing AoE carnage.
The Paragon, OTOH, can be an excellent support character - increasing the team's offense, defense, or both. They can also be a ranged offense machine, applying a variety of conditions on enemies while also dealing good damage. It's really a matter of choice w/ what direction to go, but the strength of GW is that you can experiment w/ builds.
Personally, I rolled an assassin, dervish, paragon, and ritualist because they all offer different things...
Thanks in advance. Think of it this way - a Dervish is a highly specialized warrior that focuses on applying enchantments to themselves, and having effects trigger upon the application or removal of that enchantment. Those, in conjunction w/ the way scythes work in GW, creates a melee character adept at causing AoE carnage.
The Paragon, OTOH, can be an excellent support character - increasing the team's offense, defense, or both. They can also be a ranged offense machine, applying a variety of conditions on enemies while also dealing good damage. It's really a matter of choice w/ what direction to go, but the strength of GW is that you can experiment w/ builds.
Personally, I rolled an assassin, dervish, paragon, and ritualist because they all offer different things...
street peddler
dervishes look cool and paragons are actually useful
John Panda
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dervishes look cool and paragons are actually useful
both are useful, looks are opinions.
Racthoh
If you don't mind grinding your Kurzick/Luxon title for a 4 second Save Yourselves!, Paragons are insane.
Otherwise an Eternal Aura tree is pretty amazing.
Otherwise an Eternal Aura tree is pretty amazing.
Richardt
You can always try out both and see which one you like.
I just made a para and I have to say it's alot of fun-great party support and damage (which is what I normally go on with my tank).
But the amount of damage a derv can put out is just impressive-one of my officers has a build where he's hit upwards of 200 damage on guys in HM.
Just give both a whirl-if you don't like one you can either delete or turn 'em into a storage char.
I just made a para and I have to say it's alot of fun-great party support and damage (which is what I normally go on with my tank).
But the amount of damage a derv can put out is just impressive-one of my officers has a build where he's hit upwards of 200 damage on guys in HM.
Just give both a whirl-if you don't like one you can either delete or turn 'em into a storage char.
kobey
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
If you don't mind grinding your Kurzick/Luxon title for a 4 second Save Yourselves!, Paragons are insane.
Otherwise an Eternal Aura tree is pretty amazing. Just takes abt a day of semi afking
Otherwise an Eternal Aura tree is pretty amazing. Just takes abt a day of semi afking
yarddog
i had a dervish and deleted it to make a paragon, i love my paragon, the most fun i've had in a long time
Vortex Elegy
I love my para. Also have a Derv but never got to pley with her. Para is also very nice in pvp with all the shouts etc. Makes good partysupport.
s s
Definitely go para, they are great!!! Also when your done with your sin go with a rit...my fave profession!!!
Raccoon
Personally, i think the paragon is something you have to dedicate yourself to. The dervish is a amazing character to play as in pve especially, with so many buffs it's very hard to get yourself killed.
Arkantos
Dervish = crazy offense
Paragon = crazy defense with some nice offense
If you'd rather be melee to kill things, play dervish. If you'd rather be in the midline using your insane defense and doing some nice damage, go paragon.
Paragon = crazy defense with some nice offense
If you'd rather be melee to kill things, play dervish. If you'd rather be in the midline using your insane defense and doing some nice damage, go paragon.
Tyla
Paragons worthwhile?
Ohhhh, yes they are!
Ohhhh, yes they are!
LifeInfusion
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Otherwise an Eternal Aura tree is pretty amazing.
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Originally Posted by Terraban
Good Paragon = God-mode
Bad Paragon = Warrior Bad paragon = warrior that does 14-27 instead of 15-22 (sword) or 6-28 (axe) and doesn't get aggro
Marverick
Paragon heroes suck because they don't understand the simple concept of chaining shouts.
TBH I wouldn't make a Paragon, they're too boring to play because they make PvE too ridiculously easy lol. You can pretty much aggro every single damn thing in sight when you have Defensive Anthem, TNtF!, and SY! being chained by two Paragons and not break a sweat. Dervs own in PvE damage-wise, pretty much the highest sustainable DPS you will ever get, but like Assassins, there's really only one build style that overshadows all the others completely. AKA it gets boring.
Geishe
And paragon characters are pretty darn sexy.
Moloch Vein
The utility of a paragon outstrips a dervish by a lot.
I am assuming you are asking about PvE play here. A paragon is far and beyond the more powerful PvE character. Unlike the dervish, a paragon is a high-influence character. Yes, dervishes can cause some limited AoE with his scythe and enchantments. That's about it. Generally speaking, in PvE you'd prefer to go with a character capable of influencing a lot of things over only a few. Putting it simply, a dervish does more damage than a paragon, individually. With any sensible team build, the damage buffs of a paragon will far outclass this individual damage while at the same time providing excellent defensive utility.
System_Crush
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Originally Posted by Vortex Elegy
I love my para. Also have a Derv but never got to pley with her. Para is also very nice in pvp with all the shouts etc. Makes good partysupport.
<3 your avatart m8
Though I confess because all the ameritroxes go for raw power nothign is compatible with it anymore and in a month or so I'll be just another fool with a 8800 18 weeler truck instead of a smart man's bag of holding. PS. This post is not off topic at all, you're imagining it.
blue.rellik
In PvE, Paragons are unmatchable
Dave-o
Dervishes can be insane tough. can spamm major dmg (doesnt even need to be AoE) and have some enchants that can grant you some monk absence, and mystic regeneration is just GODLIKE for dervishes. (Reapers sweep with 15 scythe mastery will make you hit a lot of 120+'s on casters <3.
havent played para yet, maybe i shud. Icey
Paragon is good till someone or foe casts anti-shout spells, then the para is as good as a worthless pet. The other bad thing I dislike about paragons is their femaleish armor. I preffer pants on males, skirts on females, not skirts on both....
Targuil
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Originally Posted by Icey
Paragon is good till someone or foe casts anti-shout spells, then the para is as good as a worthless pet. The other bad thing I dislike about paragons is their femaleish armor. I preffer pants on males, skirts on females, not skirts on both....
Hex remove ftw.
Tyla
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Paragon is good till someone or foe casts anti-shout spells, then the para is as good as a worthless pet.
WTS Monk, either that or if its a well, move out of it...
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