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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Unless that necromancer has Order of Pain, Dark Fury, and Splinter Weapon... meh.
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That new Paragon minion is very useful, too!
Least popular / played class in GW
Longasc
That new Paragon minion is very useful, too!
Legendary Shiz
This is a pretty useless thread to be honest
Darkobra
For PVE, probably mesmer or paragon.
For PVP, I can't really say. I see a mix of a lot of the classes. The least used classes were mostly used by people who knew how to use their class properly.
For PVP, I can't really say. I see a mix of a lot of the classes. The least used classes were mostly used by people who knew how to use their class properly.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz
This is a pretty useless thread to be honest
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On topic, I'd say it's a tie between the Paragon and Mesmer. Probably moreso the Paragon since the Mesmer is available in all three campaigns.
DarthFlesh
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Originally Posted by Um Yeah
In Pve: I'd probably say paragons or mesmers. Paragon's always been boring as hell for me to play, and I don't see too many of them regularly. Most people don't play mesmer well in PvE and give up on it or something. Idk
Pvp: RA/TA: Para, probably followed by rit or mes. Pvp: HA: I don't HA anymore, but if I had to take a guess, probably rit or nec. Pvp: Gvg: Sins, necs, and dervs. Unless, of course, you're Japanese >_> |
im sry but, Para might be least played in random arenas, but a paragon is fully capable of keeping a whole team in there alive, as well as 2 paragons are capable of keeping 5 dumb warriors and a ranger alive even until hall of heroes
and in PVE paragons rule, they turn everythin to godmode
just make a P/W, get them a good motivation build, SOR, and healing chants, and get save yourselves and there is nothing to fear, and BOOM almost no damage since save yourselves gives 100 armor wich means 80% damage reduction, for a couple seconds, perfect to reduce an spike, and save yourselves, does almost the same, except its 30-35%
*Alexiel*
I love my mesmer to bits, shes the prettiest thing ever xD but meh...just doesn't seem to be the funnest profession to play in my opinion, I'm a pve junkie and I get bored fairly quickly with it though I wish it wasn't like that.
So, with tonnes regret I'd probably say mesmer.
Though I've never quite been able to get into playing an assassin, as someone else said, maybe its cos I find them sorta ugleh =s
So, with tonnes regret I'd probably say mesmer.
Though I've never quite been able to get into playing an assassin, as someone else said, maybe its cos I find them sorta ugleh =s
doudou_steve
For both pve and pvp i would say .....Mesmer
Yea of course they're good but people just don't need them, in HA i see more people taking para than mesmers, its just now everything is made to counter mesmers hexes(monk for example). And like said someone in this post, ranger can interrupt better, necro are now deadlier etc.......Its not useless but i think the developper in gw2 should not put mesmer in the core classes. I think peeps are saying *well uhh normal mesmer are more pvp than pve* just to find a purpose of their existence
Yea of course they're good but people just don't need them, in HA i see more people taking para than mesmers, its just now everything is made to counter mesmers hexes(monk for example). And like said someone in this post, ranger can interrupt better, necro are now deadlier etc.......Its not useless but i think the developper in gw2 should not put mesmer in the core classes. I think peeps are saying *well uhh normal mesmer are more pvp than pve* just to find a purpose of their existence
Perkunas
I started with Prophesies over 2 years ago. In pre-searing and early in post, I saw every class. The further into the map I got, the less I saw Mesmers and Monks. I believe at the time, all classes were strong enough to deal with the mobs in the early stages of the game. After say Lion's Arch, people wanted Healers/Protectors and damage dealers. The Smiting Monks, perhaps 50% up to that point, and the Mesmers that didn't learn support skills, went by the wayside. Those that were adaptable, made the changes and moved on through the map, becoming good to excellent. Most of the newer players I see, are looking for damage dealing. Go to pre-searing now, still see all classes, but the main ones entering the academy are Warriors, Rangers, Monks, and Ele's. The others seem to be 'perma pre'.
As far as Factions and Nightfall toons go, I see them many all over Prophesies.
AB - too busy fighting to see what class I am up against and can't see beyond my party window to see our allies.
As far as Factions and Nightfall toons go, I see them many all over Prophesies.
AB - too busy fighting to see what class I am up against and can't see beyond my party window to see our allies.
chowmein69
i think the mesmer
street peddler
mesmers....1212
KazeMitsui
most useless class in pve is mos def sin
FlamingMetroid
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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
most useless class in pve is mos def sin
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For most useless class in PvE, I'ld have to go with mesmer. Not that its a bad class, but compy's don't really care if they get interrupted 3 times in a row, whereas a human might get frustrated and begin to play poorly or even ragequit, so the main power of the mesmer is nonexistant.
Magikarp
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
Well, it's between Paragons and Necros for that title, they're both fairly absurd.
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Sakura Az
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
The sin forum is often an open warzone though.
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gremlin
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Originally Posted by Dkraftwerk
The two I've noticed least of are Paragons and Mesmers. Male Mesmers in particular, I find, are even harder to come by. I always stop short when I see one and it's funny...because they do the same to me. We just stare at each other in awe, kind of funny really.
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Maybe we mesmers should gather in a large group one day and talk about everyone else.
If we are supposed mysterious lets do it in large numbers and in one town.
Unpopular classes ?
Well in pve its assassin and mesmer
The first has a bad rep or rather everyone has seen them played very badly and few seen them played well.
Mesmers well they are always the last choice for parties often because several other characters will have mesmer secondary.
Have to say Mesmers are a challenge at times, its not really a solo or farming class, they are team players and if played well can be pretty devistating.
Trouble is the team they are with has to know what they do and let them do it, in that way they are similar to a protection monk or paragon.
They may not appear to be doing much but the fact they just stopped half the oppositions spells in the last fight means they did their bit.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Which of course is funny since Paragon is the best PvE class and Ritualist have Splinter Weapon, arguably the best AoE skill in the game.
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darkdreamr
Mesmer, especially considering it's a core class. My mission in this game is to prove to people how amazing mesmers can be in pve and pvp. People always have plenty of arguments against them but if you've grouped with a really good mesmer you know what I'm talking about.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/User:Rette_Alarix
for all you mesmers out there represent!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/User:Rette_Alarix
for all you mesmers out there represent!
Arath.inc
Paragon's are quite rare. Atleast i rarely see them. And assassin's aint so much seen either. Thats mostly cause they are more of a PvP proffession than a PvE proffession.
I think that mesmer are kind of hard to play in PvE cause they have spells that mostly aims to do a shutdown on the enemies. And for PvE, then mostly this aint so good, perhaps some but it's best to have more dmg orianted spells.
(Edit: I'm not saying that they are a bad proffession. What i'm saying is how i see them)
I think that mesmer are kind of hard to play in PvE cause they have spells that mostly aims to do a shutdown on the enemies. And for PvE, then mostly this aint so good, perhaps some but it's best to have more dmg orianted spells.
(Edit: I'm not saying that they are a bad proffession. What i'm saying is how i see them)
maraxusofk
iono i love my paragon in pve save urself on a para owns.
i say i see much less sins, mesmers, and rits in pve.
for pvp, i would think it depends on the place. theres a ton of sins in hb and ra. necros are popular in ta/ha spiritway. if i have to pick a class, i would say dervish jsut b/c outside of them spiking, u see them serve very few positions, and there are more war spikers than derv spikers.
i say i see much less sins, mesmers, and rits in pve.
for pvp, i would think it depends on the place. theres a ton of sins in hb and ra. necros are popular in ta/ha spiritway. if i have to pick a class, i would say dervish jsut b/c outside of them spiking, u see them serve very few positions, and there are more war spikers than derv spikers.
arcanemacabre
I think Rits are probably the least popular. In fact, I would almost put money on it.
Hyper.nl
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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Specially male. When I see a male mesmer I have to run over and talk to them.
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Akaraxle
PvE: Paragon (because people are stupid).
PvP: Necromancer (because Soul Reaping sucked unless abused).
PvP: Necromancer (because Soul Reaping sucked unless abused).
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
A startlingly limited view of the applicability of a class with functionally limitless energy throughout the bulk of PvE. I keep trying to find a reason not to just run 8 of them (two human necros with 6 necro heroes) and can't really find one.
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Originally Posted by Longasc
It is the Necromancers that win the battle, weaken and kill the enemy, protect their own party.
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If you want to talk minion bombing consider how much damage Splinter Weapon does and how many skill slots it uses to deal that much damage.
Necromancers don't do a whole lot to 'win', physicals are the ones that focus their damage on the targets that matter, thus winning. If that necro is using a bar that helps my physicals kill the targets that matter more efficiently, then I will use one.
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
I use that limitless energy to power skills that make my physicals better, that's pretty much the only use I find for necromancers now. Enfeebling Blood is an amazing skill the problem is filling the rest of the bar with useful skills. I usually go with an enchantment removal or two, maybe a Draw Conditions, maybe hex removal, something to keep my physicals clean so they can continue to punch faces. At that point I realize I have a fairly useless character that doesn't bring a whole lot to the playing field.
Every necromancer I see throws spells on a target that I don't care about, they never contribute to winning a fight they contribute to prolonging the fight in case our physicals don't kill the target(s) that matter. Minion masters don't really do anything productive either. If they can maintain a high minion count we're obviously fighting enemies that aren't dealing a whole lot of damage; our monks could easily keep us up without the minion wall. Good damage? Sure, but how many minions do you need to make more of an impact than a warrior? When you also consider that the minions are going to attack random targets making them just as useless as the curses line, throwing damage on targets that aren't of a concern to me. If you want to talk minion bombing consider how much damage Splinter Weapon does and how many skill slots it uses to deal that much damage. Necromancers don't do a whole lot to 'win', physicals are the ones that focus their damage on the targets that matter, thus winning. If that necro is using a bar that helps my physicals kill the targets that matter more efficiently, then I will use one. |
To answer the question of the OP, I'd say Necros were the least used class in PvP pre-NF and Mesmers in PvE. Post-NF, however, I'd have to say Ritualists (I can only think of one or two ways they've been used popularly) for PvP and Ritualists again in PvE.
Dkraftwerk
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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
Then you're doing it wrong
For most useless class in PvE, I'ld have to go with mesmer. Not that its a bad class, but compy's don't really care if they get interrupted 3 times in a row, whereas a human might get frustrated and begin to play poorly or even ragequit, so the main power of the mesmer is nonexistant. |
SharonC
Interesting views. My personal favorites to play in PvE are my rit and my mesmer. My ritualist is frequently asked to go along to help on hard mode quests/vanquishes. And one alliance member says he never does anything in hard mode without a rit. He always takes either a hero or player rit with him.
My mesmer is the one I am using to vanquish with. She does an excellent job so far, 3/4ths of the way through Elona. I also plan to get skill hunter with her. The vanquishing is helping to fund the cap sigs.
I have played all the character classes, and my personal least favorite is the assassin, followed by the warrior. Which is odd because I do like playing a dervish, and plan to get my dervish through all three campaigns. Eventually.
So many characters, so little time.
My mesmer is the one I am using to vanquish with. She does an excellent job so far, 3/4ths of the way through Elona. I also plan to get skill hunter with her. The vanquishing is helping to fund the cap sigs.
I have played all the character classes, and my personal least favorite is the assassin, followed by the warrior. Which is odd because I do like playing a dervish, and plan to get my dervish through all three campaigns. Eventually.
So many characters, so little time.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by SharonC
So many characters, so little time.
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I'd say mesmer and rits are underplayed classes. Mesmers because your average PUG thinks they have no use in PvE, as for rits... they have monks for healing, eles for damage. But a mesmer can be a great asset in a team, and rits make good support characters or damagers, depending on what you need.
Griff Mon
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Originally Posted by Dkraftwerk
The two I've noticed least of are Paragons and Mesmers. Male Mesmers in particular, I find, are even harder to come by. I always stop short when I see one and it's funny...because they do the same to me. We just stare at each other in awe, kind of funny really.
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CougarTheTall
I hardly see Paragons in PvE and likewise PvP
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
most useless class in pve is mos def sin
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Jake_Steel
Oddly, I have 9 character slots, the only Primary I don't use: A monk.
stretchs
heh necros in pve are amazing. Be them standard mm's or mino bombers, cursers using ss or sv. As well you can even use WoR N/Rt and have a very good combination, people that dont think they are strong seem to have maybe less experience with them. I have vanquished all of elona and most of Cantha with having at least 2 necros in my party. They are much more viable than the sf ele's that I had been using prior
finalhack13
I believe the least popular classes are Mesmer and Paragon hands down!
Sins are actually very good farmers and pretty decent on DPS if used with the right build. Paragons arent bad, they're actually VERY good when support is needed (which is usually everywhere)
Sins are actually very good farmers and pretty decent on DPS if used with the right build. Paragons arent bad, they're actually VERY good when support is needed (which is usually everywhere)
Painbringer
Paragon in PVP at least RA
PVE – Sin and Maybe a Male Mesmer for sure. (And whenever I group with actual people we are always looking for that rare monk)
PVE – Sin and Maybe a Male Mesmer for sure. (And whenever I group with actual people we are always looking for that rare monk)
MisterMax
Personally I dont see many Male Mesmers, Paragons, or Ritualists.
Only one of those that I don't play on a weekly basis are Paragons (had one for 5 months but deleted due to need of a pvp slot) And I don't even bother with sins. Other than that my Monk is neglected and collecting dust.
Only one of those that I don't play on a weekly basis are Paragons (had one for 5 months but deleted due to need of a pvp slot) And I don't even bother with sins. Other than that my Monk is neglected and collecting dust.
Vinraith
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
I use that limitless energy to power skills that make my physicals better, that's pretty much the only use I find for necromancers now.
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upier
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
People will keep thinking mesmers suck because they don't see how effective they are in PvE especially in preventing a lot of damage. PvE has as a specific challenge that there is huge spike damage. Level 28+ creatures that can wipe entire parties in a couple of seconds. Trust me, damage prevention is important.
Go into the Gate of Pain mission with an interrupt mesmer and be glad of all those meteor showers that won't hit you and the melee demons that kill themselves on empathy. It really works. But you cannot just blow all your energy at once, you have to time and weigh quickly what is and isn't important to disrupt. So yes it requires more thought and skill and thus is less popular. |
Damage prevention is nice.
Throwing away a party slot when it can be done by using a skill-slot isn't.
On-topic:
I run into all classes.
I adore mesmer, paragons and ritus - so I always notice them. I pretty much only notice other classes if they are dressed in something insanely bad!
Like:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3074066
/shivers
jimmyboveto
I would say paragons, ritualists, and mesmers. I don't know why, as rit and para are some of my favorite classes to play, but w/e. The GW community doesn't really understand the potential of paras or rits.
Martin Firestorm
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In nightfall there are plenty of Dervs/Paras. In factions and proph, not so. The same applies to rits/sins - lots in factions (well ok, not "lots"), but hardly any elsewhere.
But I'd have to say mesmer, as there just isn't many no matter what campaign it is. |
I at least get it when it comes to GW's ultimate red headed stepchild, the mesmer, but my interrupt/degen mesmer tears up pve about as well as a BHA ranger. He doesn't take damage as well of course, but he's a solid pve character overall. He's also one of the reasons I was very glad heroes were added--I couldn't get into PUGs with my mesmer in any of the harder missions. I tried without luck for a couple of weeks in raisu palace.
Tyla
PvE: A Mesmer.
PvP: A Sin
least what i think
PvP: A Sin
least what i think