Weirdest bug destroyed my survivor title.

kai_razorwind

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ok,so i'm down with remaking chars whenever you incur on a death if you are going for Legendary survivor. it makes sense that such a title requires having the guts to do that. My sin is on his 5th remake, and everything was going fine untill I attempted the boreas seabed mission, with about 280000xp. I played all my cards right not to die, yet suddenly I get around 700 dmg from the spear of archemorus on the battle against argo,and die without a chance of being healed. The spear was at the friggin pedestal ffs! After the cutscene, instead of one spear there are two...

So now I will have to remake my char because of a stupid bug that allowed a stationary spear sitting on a pedestal to cause me 700 dmg? wtf? I seriously want my death removed, I dont care if they have to do a rollback, this is no fair death at all! Death by bug? Anet should seriously look into those bugs, its totally frustrating and wrong.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

They're not gonna do a rollback....just for your death.....

I lost survivor r2 by "x"ing out of the game while lagging, i can't blame lag, i kept the character and was proud and satisfied at my tier 1 survivor and got over it like that.*snaps fingers*

kai_razorwind

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
They're not gonna do a rollback....just for your death.....

I lost survivor r2 by "x"ing out of the game while lagging, i can't blame lag, i kept the character and was proud and satisfied at my tier 1 survivor and got over it like that.*snaps fingers*
Well they better do something, its not fair for me to remake my char because their mission has a stupid bug! Do you have any clue how hard it is to make a survivor sin? How much hard work I put on this char to get him to where he was? I was so frustrated with the game the second this ridiculous and unfair death occurred that i just closed it and stopped playing.

You died because of lag...Its *different*. I died because of an unpredictable bug. Something that should never be in there. I had about 550 health and about 3 enchants on me, i could never die at that point in time regardless of lag. I took 2 350 dmg from the spear on a row, not just one,and after the cutscene there were 2 spears at the pedestal.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
Well they better do something, its not fair for me to remake my char because their mission has a stupid bug! Do you have any clue how hard it is to make a survivor sin? How much hard work I put on this char to get him to where he was? I was so frustrated with the game the second this ridiculous and unfair death occurred that i just closed it and stopped playing.

You died because of lag...Its *different*. I died because of an unpredictable bug.
I died from unexpected lag :P Plus i never actually died, i x'd out of the game, when i logged back in tada! 1 death, that shouldn't happen if i should be logged out right?Bug(ha died of a bug)

And mine was a survivor sin also, wasn't hard got a guildies help and went through shing jea and lvl'd up the last levels by myself.
If you REALLY want legendary survivor, then remake him, i didn't though.

Just accept the fact they won't do anything about it, no matter what.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

It's also not fair when survivors die due to lag on Anet's side but they deal with it. What do you expect Anet to do for you? They're not gonna roll back the entire server just to give you a second chance.

Also, this isn't a bug. It's documented on wiki as normal behavior.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gw.gamewikis.org
Note: Stay away from the center stand. The Spear of Archemorus will charge up during the fighting, and occasionally "discharge" when full, striking any nearby party members for 300 damage. It does not seem to affect the enemy teams, though.

kai_razorwind

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

I did not take 300 dmg, I took 2 full waves of 350 in a row, without any time between them. I was nowhere near the center, and I was the only one in my party that died. it *IS* a bug, just like the bug at the Vizunah square mission that later got fixed. Plus ive been playing this game since launch, did boreas seabed countless times and never once got killed by 2 spears sitting at a pedestal when there should be only one.

pOmrAkkUn

pOmrAkkUn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Bangkok

Me/Mo

I die that way too and I think we just touch the spear before we should :P

I play with other char and do that mission again touch the spear before I win the duel and baam I die lol

ps. I didn't do LS that time :P

Kabroz the necro

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Mo

Well, you had only 280k xp.I had 1,308.684xp died on server lag 3 months ago.

So? There is still bug in Vizunah Square where unbound minions kill you.
There is no point to try take your death back, next time just take runner.

Mystique Huntress

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

West Midlands, UK

Avatar Of Heroes [Hero]

R/

Isn't this documented on wiki?

Anet won't do anything about it just because one person lost their survivor. I lost mine too, 200k away from r3 but it was my own fault for not being observant enough and nattering on GC.

I do feel for you though it is pretty frustrating, in the future if you feel like trying again check wiki before you do a mission or zone somewhere you arn't sure about it made a huge difference for me several times.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I don't care about the title, so I don't attempt it. It's pointless. Titles ruined this game.

kai_razorwind

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

"We are unable to reset the death count for a character for any reason. We apologize if this presents an inconvenience. If you have any more questions, please let us know and we will be more than happy to assist you."


Well thats just great, then just give me the 100k+mats used up on his armor, runes,tomes, skills, daggers, runes for heroes, plus the time i had to farm for all that and all the time i spent on the char itself.
I hate you, anet.

GG for having a title that your broken and bug infested game prevents a player to achieve by playing normally, hence favoring "power levelers". Kinda like how you broke the economy for the casual player yet did nothing to stop farming bots.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

As long as you didn't customize the daggers you can just keep them in storage while you remake the guy. You can salvage out all the runes from your heroes (and your armor) and keep them in storage while you remake your character.

You also shouldn't buy 15k armor for a survivor until AFTER he gets Legendary. That's the smart thing to do in case something like this does happen, you won't be out 100k.

explodemyheart

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

Man, your life must be so hard. Losing your survivor character is so life-shattering, I don't know how you'll cope.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
"We are unable to reset the death count for a character for any reason. We apologize if this presents an inconvenience. If you have any more questions, please let us know and we will be more than happy to assist you."


Well thats just great, then just give me the 100k+mats used up on his armor, runes,tomes, skills, daggers, runes for heroes, plus the time i had to farm for all that and all the time i spent on the char itself.
I hate you, anet.

GG for having a title that your broken and bug infested game prevents a player to achieve by playing normally, hence favoring "power levelers". Kinda like how you broke the economy for the casual player yet did nothing to stop farming bots.
More fool you; should have waited until getting the title before arrogantly assuming you had a 100% chance of making it and buying all that stuff on him.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

You should of purchased the armor, leets items, etc after having accomplished the title. You can't just expect everything to go perfectly...

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molock
You should of purchased the armor, leets items, etc after having accomplished the title. You can't just expect everything to go perfectly...

QFT.

12 Chars.

artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
Well they better do something, its not fair for me to remake my char because their mission has a stupid bug! Do you have any clue how hard it is to make a survivor sin? How much hard work I put on this char to get him to where he was? I was so frustrated with the game the second this ridiculous and unfair death occurred that i just closed it and stopped playing.

You died because of lag...Its *different*. I died because of an unpredictable bug. Something that should never be in there. I had about 550 health and about 3 enchants on me, i could never die at that point in time regardless of lag. I took 2 350 dmg from the spear on a row, not just one,and after the cutscene there were 2 spears at the pedestal.
There is no way in hell you are ever going to get that death taken off.

/sign for close thread before people start posting lolcats.

PS: Can I have your sins stuff if you're gonna delete PLzz! Tier 2 is pretty good, why arent you happy with it?

Wynthyst

Wynthyst

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

Gems of Destiny

D/

I didn't realize the spear doing damage was a bug. It has happened many times to me in that mission, and I just know better than to let my survivor get anywhere near it.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
More fool you; should have waited until getting the title before arrogantly assuming you had a 100% chance of making it and buying all that stuff on him.
That is just complete and utter bullshit.

melbo

melbo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

New York

E/Mo

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Boreas_seabed :
Note: Stay away from the center stand. The Spear of Archemorus will charge up during the fighting, and occasionally "discharge" when full, striking any nearby party members for 300 damage. It does not seem to affect the enemy teams, though.

Sorry, I don't feel bad for you. It's documented on wiki and isn't a "bug", and it's been that way for as long as I can remember. Your bad, not Anets.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by melbo
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Boreas_seabed :
Note: Stay away from the center stand. The Spear of Archemorus will charge up during the fighting, and occasionally "discharge" when full, striking any nearby party members for 300 damage. It does not seem to affect the enemy teams, though.

Sorry, I don't feel bad for you. It's documented on wiki and isn't a "bug", and it's been that way for as long as I can remember. Your bad, not Anets.
IF this is true:
Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
After the cutscene, instead of one spear there are two...
THEN it is a bug.

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
I died from unexpected lag :P Plus i never actually died, i x'd out of the game, when i logged back in tada! 1 death, that shouldn't happen if i should be logged out right?Bug(ha died of a bug)

And mine was a survivor sin also, wasn't hard got a guildies help and went through shing jea and lvl'd up the last levels by myself.
If you REALLY want legendary survivor, then remake him, i didn't though.

Just accept the fact they won't do anything about it, no matter what.

Exact same thing happened to me mate but meh, i didnt care enough to remake, like you.

melbo

melbo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

New York

E/Mo

The two spears would be a bug. Not the spear charging and then causing damage.

Evaine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

KORE

N/

I can understand your disappointment and frustration but they're never going to do a roll-back. I have an Assassin that has made it to Survivor 1 and, frankly, I'm afraid to play him unless there's a special event going on and he can do quests.There are so many missions that have documented flaws and bugs that have never been fixed or modified and there seems to be no incentive, at this point, for them to do so.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Even if there would have been three spears and a MG42 plus a Nazi squad because of a bug...

... you still would not get your survivor back.


A pity for you, but nothing you can change. And you know that it is mostly "unfair" things like lag, disconnections and other bugs that kill potential survivors.

To make it easier for you, after you achieved Survivor, you should know that it was not worth it after the first rank anymore. It is just grind and being super careful after that.

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
"We are unable to reset the death count for a character for any reason. We apologize if this presents an inconvenience. If you have any more questions, please let us know and we will be more than happy to assist you."


Well thats just great, then just give me the 100k+mats used up on his armor, runes,tomes, skills, daggers, runes for heroes, plus the time i had to farm for all that and all the time i spent on the char itself.
I hate you, anet.

GG for having a title that your broken and bug infested game prevents a player to achieve by playing normally, hence favoring "power levelers". Kinda like how you broke the economy for the casual player yet did nothing to stop farming bots.
Just take a breath and relax. I know it's hard. I have been where you are and even further in that I died while doing a LS character.

Had a Ranger at lvl2 survivor (733k exp), got jumped by ONI's (cute lil suckers) in Ferndale, x'd out at 50% health and when I logged in, BAM, 1 death... oh well. GWSupport also told me they cannot reset coz I argued with them, but I LOGGED OUT... "Yes sir, the servers need time to register you logging out"
Well this "time" was enough for me to register the death and the henchies didn't heal me enough it seems (if at all)
Another lvl2 survivor Ele (1,32x,xxx exp, yes some 10k short of LS) got hit hard with 63k ms ping... while skill capping in Morastav Trail, at Sunreach. I eventually saw the 15% dp after rubberbanding my ass off.... so

I feel your pain. I know the heart pounding, head-in-hands feeling. Suck it up and move on. The dmg you died from is documented. NOT a bug! I took 6 LS chars through this mission without dying.

You could even be confusing some of the dmg you saw, as some of the dmg from Argo and his boys (coz he is freaky nasty).

Good luck.

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

Wow, that absolutely bites. All you can do is regroup and reroll. Eventually all the stars should line up and you'll get it.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

Yep, it has always done this, this just is the 1st time you have had the issue, I too died from it previously, not a survivor though. Less QQ more reading

sterbenx2

sterbenx2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

New England

Lunatic Legion

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind

Well thats just great, then just give me the 100k+mats used up on his armor, runes,tomes, skills, daggers, runes for heroes, plus the time i had to farm for all that and all the time i spent on the char itself.
I hate you, anet.

GG for having a title that your broken and bug infested game prevents a player to achieve by playing normally, hence favoring "power levelers". Kinda like how you broke the economy for the casual player yet did nothing to stop farming bots.
WOW.. just, WOW! hate on anet cuz YOU failed.. WOW, i'm impressed.

You can transfer all that to the re-roll.. cept the armor. which if going for survivor, you should have bought the cheapest max armor you could find until after r3. wiki ftw.

Use wiki to LEARN crucial information about a mission BEFORE entering said mission. knowledge ftw.

broken and bug infested? lol, try Morrowind if you wand broken and bugged. GW is far from. (still love Morrowing tho)

Legendary Survivor here. 3rd try, normal play, Assassin. I did it and no QQ when I failed twice.

I never thought I'd say this but.. plzuninstallthxbye, sry. no point in getting so rage about it.

tracco

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Earth (mega lawl)

Lubricated Volcano Love

"Ahh, I'm going to sue all of you!"

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

Quote:
try Morrowind if you wand broken and bugged
I'd also recommend trying it if you have trouble sleeping.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Be cautious...it happened to me when i had windows alerts coming on 24/7, at 700k...i got over it...

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

Make sure to do missions with same class character before taking a survivor in. Watch for those bugs and any other thing that will take down your character in 1 or 2 hits.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

[QUOTE=kai_razorwind
Well thats just great, then just give me the 100k+mats used up on his armor, runes,tomes, skills, daggers, runes for heroes, plus the time i had to farm for all that and all the time i spent on the char itself.
I hate you, anet.
[/QUOTE]

How on earth did you need to spend 100k + mats on those?

max armor= 10k-ish with mats
Daggers= Can get a bad skin made perfect chep enough or a green wep 10k-ish
runes= 10-20k-ish depends if you get sup vigor
Tomes= only need like 14 normal toems and 2 elite to give you 2 differant builds t orun on. + you get cheap skills at the start. sin tomes are cheap enough anyway.~20k if you get them at a high enough price

So 50-60k roughly total, and since that is your 5th run at survivor i assume you salvaged the Runes, kept the wep and salvaged the old armor to get mats. knocking down the price a nice bit.

Anything besides the essentials are just for vanity, ie 15k armor, torment weapons which are not needed for survivor.


if your going for survivor you should research the missions and areas more on wiki, that note really would have helped alot.

when you fall of the horse all you can do is get back up, gl

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

Welcome to the survivor title. A long time ago the survivor title meant you did not die for X amount of experience. Now it has become a battle of avoiding deaths from lag/bugs. Maybe they can change the title to died 0 or 1 time

Shawn The Divine

Shawn The Divine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Nova Scotia

My Other Healer Is Lvl Eighty

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
My sin is on his 5th remake, and everything was going fine untill I attempted the boreas seabed mission, with about 280000xp. I played all my cards right not to die, yet suddenly I get around 700 dmg from the spear of archemorus on the battle against argo,and die without a chance of being healed. The spear was at the friggin pedestal ffs!
So you know for the future:

[skill]protective spirit[/skill]

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by explodemyheart
Man, your life must be so hard. Losing your survivor character is so life-shattering, I don't know how you'll cope.
It's true.. if I die on my way to LS... i'll .. i'll kill my cat. After I get one.

Oukanna

Oukanna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Shaolin Guardians

E/D

I have done the seabed mission on HM, we had 2 spears at the pedastel, i noticed when things died near it, after a few times it would release and deal dmg to whoever is around it ( i was in the blast zone) :-(
I thought thats what it did, the 2 of them though must of been a bug, though heck it certainly did well when it came to the end of the mission xD fastest time ive ever done it and in hard mode no less xD Il welcome that bug again anyday.

My bf had his survivor taken off him :-( He finished capping a skill and resigned (he was with heroes and henchies) i was there next to him when this happend, it took ages for it to register and stuff started to hit him, the party died from the resign as the return to outpost button came up. he checked his deaths just to make sure and low and behold the figure 1 was there. He got so gutted, of course Anet did nothing. Shame though.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

Protective spirit

Avai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
Ok,so i'm down with remaking chars whenever you incur on a death if you are going for Legendary survivor. it makes sense that such a title requires having the guts to do that.
/signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_razorwind
Well they better do something, its not fair for me to remake my char because their mission has a stupid bug! Do you have any clue how hard it is to make a survivor sin?
/notsigned

I found these two statements very humorous. You say it makes sense that the title requires having the guts to remake, and then you say it's not fair for YOU to have to remake?