Since the BMP is being released for sale now

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

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Is anyone ever gonna ever bother with any other offers or bonuses from the online store since they are now selling the BMP seperate?

Just curious to how badly Anet just screwed over there own promotions from now on in the online store. I know Im relly gonna have to rethink everything from now on unless its in CLEAR FINE PRINT with no double speak before even considering any more purchases from there since they will just release it again it seems.


On another note so when are they gonna offer the divine auras in the store?

Skawtt

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

The dead horse is in here : http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10242637

Kuhr

Kuhr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere between the gutter and the stars.

Wild Rovers [WR]

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Well I'm kind of happy that they are offering the bonus mission pack separate now. I bought EOTN in store, so I didn't want to waste money unlocking skills for PvP and Heroes.

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

Nope. I won't partake in any of the special promotions anymore. Way to treat a customer that has all of your Collector's Editions, Special Editions and actually wanted to support you as a company by buying through the online store, knowing I'd spend more, but that the money would go directly to you. Oh well, boohoo on me for putting my trust in a corporation, I guess.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skawtt
Its not about that dead horse. Go and reread what I wrote.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

No CC.
So this changes nothing.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

I got the BMP free anyway from the store, didnt even know about the promo. I'll continue to play and buy as i want to.
It really really isnt a big deal imo. Definitly not worth all the crying threads.

genofreek

genofreek

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USA

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I'll think twice about jumping on their promos the instant they're offered, but if it's something I want and comes packaged as a bonus with something I was gonna buy anyway, hey... whatever.

I still think the whole thing was handled poorly, but I'm not exactly ragequitting GW over it.

MisterB

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skawtt
QFT
Please merge this thread with the linked one, or close.
@manitoba's response to quoted post:
Your thread is not any different from the....stuff that people are posting in the linked thread.
I used the BMP as an excuse to order GW:EN from the store. Zero regrets. It's nice that ANet is offering it once again.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

I'll definitely think twice about any future Anet "promotions".

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

What promotions are you all expecting Anet to have? GW is pretty much done for the next 2 years.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

What's so surprising ?
Why the moans and groans?

"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" basic law of Physics.

Arenanet gave something away, not one forced anyone to buy.
My choice was to buy 3 character slots so I wouldnt miss out on the free ! remember that folks FREE ! bonus mission pack.

Now its for sale, was this a deep dark secret plan all along by arenanet ? or just a "reaction" to all the original moans and groans from those who "for various reasons" missed out.

We got it for free they have to pay and get it a month or so later, big deal.

What's not surprising are the ott comments from their customer base, and who knows what their reaction will be to that.

No more offers at all perhaps since in our eyes they can do no right.

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisa
Nope. I won't partake in any of the special promotions anymore. Way to treat a customer that has all of your Collector's Editions, Special Editions and actually wanted to support you as a company by buying through the online store, knowing I'd spend more, but that the money would go directly to you. Oh well, boohoo on me for putting my trust in a corporation, I guess.
You got what you were promised and have had the BMP for several months before people who didn't take the promotion... I don't understand this mind set at all.

vampirnata

vampirnata

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Austria

n/a

E/Me

all you people moaning... lame... grow up and deal with it, my god so many drama queens around.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

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I'm trying to get into the mindset of people who are resentful of this decision (and failing). Why the hell would you be angry that the BMP is for sale. You got it early, for free (technically).

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB
QFT
Please merge this thread with the linked one, or close.
@manitoba's response to quoted post:
Your thread is not any different from the....stuff that people are posting in the linked thread.
I used the BMP as an excuse to order GW:EN from the store. Zero regrets. It's nice that ANet is offering it once again.
No did you also not read. Its about future promotions and that not about that dead horse whether or not if people will be doing them.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
I'll definitely think twice about any future Anet "promotions".
A promotion is meant to, well, promote a product. They were promoting the bonus mission pack. If you thought it would be completely exclusive, you have no idea how sales promotions work.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
I'll think twice about jumping on their promos the instant they're offered, but if it's something I want and comes packaged as a bonus with something I was gonna buy anyway, hey... whatever.

I still think the whole thing was handled poorly, but I'm not exactly ragequitting GW over it.
Pretty much my opinion on the whole thing - I purchased the games and such because I like the game, not for a promotion or exclusivity. However, I spent the extra dollars and dropped the box because they asked me to in order to support them (and they in return give me a "Thank You"). Based on how much extra I spend for GWEN and what the BMP costs I spent 5 extra dollars for a blanket one post "thank you" in a forum - not really worth the money if you ask me. Given what their past "thank yous" entailed I kinda fell ripped off that my extra dollars got me a whole blanket forum post. I shudder to think what the people who Gaile told to purchase slots (even when they made it clear that they had no use for them) think - that is an extra 20 dollars to support Anet. I don't know who's fault that is (Gaile probably has little to do with that), but whomsoever fault that is I can't say I'm happy.

I will also add that I will also ask questions and do so fairly often until answered. This whole thing could have been avoided if they answered one of the direct questions - and if they don't answer then I guess I will also point this out as often as I can as we can no longer trust what they usually mean by their press reports. We now have to make sure that we notice what they don't say instead of assuming that they told us all they could.

Of course, why ragequit? This is standard practice for game companies, just in the past Anet has not been a standard company. They now move into a lower slot and that is obviously what they want to have happen. Not a big deal, if I wanted to ragequit over this I would have quite playing games decades ago and they aren't the first to have changed in this way either.

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

Why are people behaving as if they lost something? Its not as if you can sell the weapons, and there's not much bragging rights.

Its cool that now everyone's friends can enjoy the BMP. Good patch, Anet.

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

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I would take part in promotions that actually benefit me.

I just wont do "hey, pay a us whole lot more than you would in shop, loose out box and help us screw retailers." thing.

garethporlest18

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Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Strcpy you should have been smarter, as the rest of you (as that guy above put it soo nicely) "drama queens."

It's good for people who couldn't get it before, they're making others happy. So many damn elitists here I swear whether it be one thing or another/one side or another. Just deal with it, open your eyes they're making everything available to others. Too bad this game isn't good enough to supply that much fun if there aren't a large number of rare things to go after cause Anet makes everything easy for people who can only supply 3 hours to the game.

I won't get it though, because it's lame and not special at all and will add -5minutes of fun to GW.

Bazompora

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fallot
Why the hell would you be angry that the BMP is for sale.
Good question; I would like to see them answer that!

I have no sympathy for those that need to have others deprived from goods they have, just so they can feel themselves special.
But "special" they are!

skitz

skitz

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Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Handmedown Rejects [doob]

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Remeber you got it for free.... way to be thankful. How can u complain wen u got something for nothing, that others have to pay for

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

I'll take part in anet promotions that i think are decent, so long as i'm happy with the purchase at the time i couldn't care what happens afterwards, because shit happens.

Edit: spelling, tis early

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

No, and I don't see why people are so confused about this. Collectors editions items, pre-order items, and whatever else are obviously going to remain exclusive. If you decide to avoid them in the future because of this, that's your loss.

Yes, you guys who bothered to enter this promotion can argue that you were tricked, or whatever, but despite popular belief they did not in any way, EVER say that this would be exclusive content that couldn't be re-released later, and I have to say I thought it was fairly obvious it would be. Or at least there was a good chance, good enough to not bother spending extra money on GW:EN, missing out on the box or buying un-needed character slots.

But anyway I'm fairly sure they won't even run any more promotions like this in the future, it was a bad idea to begin with and was going to leave a lot of people unhappy either way. If they do make more mission packs, I'm sure they'll just straight up release them in the store.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
I would take part in promotions that actually benefit me.

I just wont do "hey, pay a us whole lot more than you would in shop, loose out box, help us screw retailers, and while we're at it, we're going to cheat you out of $20 because we'll be offering it at a reduced price later... but we're not going to tell you that now." thing.
Amended for accuracy. Yeah I know, I chose to buy from the online store. I would have preferred buying EotN cheaper from a retailer, having the box, and then just giving anet their $10 (which I would have GLADLY paid from the start)- while still coming out on top on my end. I for one am going to be quite cautious from now on if they decide to do that again.

sterbenx2

sterbenx2

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Join Date: Jul 2007

New England

Lunatic Legion

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I'm happy enough to have it. I used to be against the idea of them selling the BMP seperate.. but now. Since my gf started the game too late to even have a chance at getting it, I've reversed that opinion. It did suck that there was a piece of the game that some players could NEVER get. We got it as a reward, for free. The rest will have to pay for it.

I think its actually better this way. Anet makes money of the BMP by selling it after a promo to get it free. This gets Anet profit for the project and makes them a little more willing to make such additions later, offering first as a promo then later for sale.

BTW: the BMP isn't worth all the fuss it has received. Just some cool background story and free weapons. with NO mods on them..

Lonesamurai

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I got the BMP for free with my purchase of GW:EN, you have to pay for it... Sounds like a promotion to me and I'm happy

Bazompora

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
I got the BMP for free with my purchase of GW:EN, you have to pay for it... Sounds like a promotion to me and I'm happy
I have to pay for it, but finally can get it. I'm happy too now.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazompora
Good question; I would like to see them answer that!

I have no sympathy for those that need to have others deprived from goods they have, just so they can feel themselves special.
But "special" they are!
Quote:
Originally Posted by skitz
Remeber you got it for free.... way to be thankful. How can u complain wen u got something for nothing, that others have to pay for
Guys, please read posts more carefully - you're missing the point. Most people don't care that others are getting it, many aren't even concerned about price. The issue is:

1) A lot of people got the BMP by buying stuff from the online store that they would not have bought were it not for the BMP. (In the case of GW:EN, they would have bought it in a retail store, quite often.)
2) They did the above because they did not know/expect there would be any other way to get the BMP.
3) They're miffed that they spent extra money on stuff they didn't otherwise want, or gave up the goodies that come with the GW:EN box (unless they spent even more money), when they didn't have to - they were simply led to think they did.

Whether point 2 was a reasonable assumption on their behalf is up for debate, but considering so many people fell for it I would say it was.

thig

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

S??by, Denmark

A Few Good Men

Mo/

From this day on Im no longer gonna buy anything extra from the ingame store....I consider the online store to be no better than any online gold seller site...I'am actually thinking about reporting the store to support for scamming.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thig
From this day on Im no longer gonna buy anything extra from the ingame store....I consider the online store to be no better than any online gold seller site...I'am actually thinking about reporting the store to support for scamming.
A, how?

B, Why?

C, What can you ell from the ingame store to make ingame golds?

kthxbye

thig

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

S??by, Denmark

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A: By contacting support
B: for the so called "free bonus" offer that cost around $30. Since you can now get the same "free bonus" for only $10.
C: I don't say they sell the same things, but they are currently doing business just like the online gold sellers.

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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One of things that were real bad about BMP was lack of informed choice.

You got no info what reward will be like, so you could not really decide whether its worth it to you to take part in that promotion thingie. So if you didnt want to loose out you were pressured to get it anyway. Smart seller tactics, but distastefull from customer POW.

There was just to way to tell if you would get something you would like or if you would feel like you were screwed out of your money.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
Guys, please read posts more carefully - you're missing the point. Most people don't care that others are getting it, many aren't even concerned about price.
I didn't miss any point; that's just not the one I'm reacting to. I recall the many "No, you don't deserve to be able to buy the BMP! We're loyal customers and you're not!" type of reactions, when we were asking for retail releases of the BMP; those are the ones I was aiming at (and who are there, spread amoungst the <no offense intended with the following> complainers).

madmonarch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

PvE

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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
A promotion is meant to, well, promote a product. They were promoting the bonus mission pack...
There was ambiguity in words "Bonus Mission Pack promotion". Was it promotion of BMP? Or was it promotion of GWEN named "BMP promotion"? Taking into account that promotion and GWEN release almost concurred most people thought that it was latter. IMO.

I'm lucky. I bought Factions in Online Store (turned out cheaper than from local retailer ), then bought box from some guy. I didn't lost anything, but I understand those who was fooled by anet's wording and lost GWEN box, not saying about money due to difference in prices..

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thig
A: By contacting support
B: for the so called "free bonus" offer that cost around $30. Since you can now get the same "free bonus" for only $10.
C: I don't say they sell the same things, but they are currently doing business just like the online gold sellers.
no offence, but please grow up

the "Free offer" didn;t cost $30, the free offer was given to you when you spent $30, and not at the same time either, you could make that $30 up anyway over a 5 month period...

I personally chose to buy GW:EN as I had the unlcok packs and the GotY pack and i don;t need more character slots, nor do i want the box

And as i said in the other thread, on release, GW:EN cost £30 here in stores, it cost £30 in the in Game store too... so i got to make a choice of wether i got the BMP or a box with a usless DvD, a 16 Page maunual and a map... I chose the BMP and didn;t need to leave my flat

thig

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

S??by, Denmark

A Few Good Men

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
no offence, but please grow up

the "Free offer" didn;t cost $30, the free offer was given to you when you spent $30, and not at the same time either, you could make that $30 up anyway over a 5 month period...

I personally chose to buy GW:EN as I had the unlcok packs and the GotY pack and i don;t need more character slots, nor do i want the box

And as i said in the other thread, on release, GW:EN cost £30 here in stores, it cost £30 in the in Game store too... so i got to make a choice of wether i got the BMP or a box with a usless DvD, a 16 Page maunual and a map... I chose the BMP and didn;t need to leave my flat
I chose to buy it from the online store at a higher price, since its was the only way to get the BMP, at that time.
You mention that the ingame store price and the retailer prices were the same. Thats not true. I don't have the exact price but I could get it about 20-25% cheaper by getting it from a online retailer like www.play.com . Now if I had bought it from the online reailer instead I would have goten more value for my money. I would have gotten the box content and have gotten the "Free Bonus" offer for about the same price. Know Im not one of those who really got screwed in this. Many others bought 3 slots they basically did not need in order to get the "free bonus" pack, that they now can get at a cheaper price.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thig
I chose to buy it from the online store at a higher price, since its was the only way to get the BMP, at that time.
You mention that the ingame store price and the retailer prices were the same. Thats not true. I don't have the exact price but I could get it about 20-25% cheaper by getting it from a online retailer like www.play.com . Now if I had bought it from the online reailer instead I would have goten more value for my money. I would have gotten the box content and have gotten the "Free Bonus" offer for about the same price. Know Im not one of those who really got screwed in this. Many others bought 3 slots they basically did not need in order to get the "free bonus" pack, that they now can get at a cheaper price.
Ok, I also bought GW:EN from Play.com for a friend... it came on the monday after release... thats four days after the server went live, so again, that doesn;t count

Play.com save money buy not charging VAT, but also save money by sending things Second Class delivery and you will never get a product from play.com on release day

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazompora
I didn't miss any point; that's just not the one I'm reacting to. I recall the many "No, you don't deserve to be able to buy the BMP! We're loyal customers and you're not!" type of reactions, when we were asking for retail releases of the BMP; those are the ones I was aiming at (and who are there, spread amoungst the <no offense intended with the following> complainers).
Understood. I don't feel any sympathy for that point of view either, considering Guild Wars is not about exclusive clubs. I don't recall seeing anyone actually say that though.