Four Horsemen... Two Men
Archaic
And on another note, Cerb. This is NOT the hype up a guide forum.
cerb
Alright, here's two quick questions to those interested:
- What type of support would you like me to put more emphasis on? Video support or Images?
- What do you think of the idea of making audio commentaries for my videos? (Recording myself over the video and explaining stuff)
- What type of support would you like me to put more emphasis on? Video support or Images?
- What do you think of the idea of making audio commentaries for my videos? (Recording myself over the video and explaining stuff)
Solo_uw_ftw
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- What type of support would you like me to put more emphasis on? Video support or Images?
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- What do you think of the idea of making audio commentaries for my videos? (Recording myself over the video and explaining stuff)
Video with text explaining and an awesome tune or if you don't want to put music in it, audio would be perfect^^. If you could have your friend record his job too and do a half/half screen (that would be to tiny I think) it would be perfect :P If not then yea, video + text and music/audio comments
Age
Images would help for more detail as well as pointers on them can't do that with videos a few would be nice.Don't forget about Novices as I am still one of them haven't been down there enough.
ACreator
still you could post the build 1st and make a guide while ppl are having fun trying :P
Muspellsheimr
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Originally Posted by cerb
Alright, here's two quick questions to those interested:
- What type of support would you like me to put more emphasis on? Video support or Images? - What do you think of the idea of making audio commentaries for my videos? (Recording myself over the video and explaining stuff) Video (for both roles) with audio commentary to demonstrate how the run is accomplished, with screen shots of specific aspects for secondary support & clarification. Looking forward to seeing this, and good job on the run. Lord Darksoul
anyone know when this thing'll come out?
gazan1204
Looks like he lost interest.
kel77
I sure hope not
ectos taste nasty
I'm excited. Take your time,though.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by gazan1204
Looks like he lost interest.
Some people have more to do in life than play Guild Wars all the time.
Skinny Corpse
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Some people have more to do in life than play Guild Wars all the time.
What?! Is that "real life" you're talking about? I've heard rumours about
such a thing.. 
boogerboy72
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Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse
What?! Is that "real life" you're talking about? I've heard rumours about
such a thing..
Bah! there is no such thing for guild wars players.
Skinny Corpse
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Bah! there is no such thing for guild wars players.
Phew.. real life.. sounds intimidating.
cerb
Hey guys,
Just letting you know that I have not lost interest for sure, but I'm getting more problems than expected. First off, we don't get enough time for testing due to other players' availability and of course school/exams. Also, I'm playing on a Macbook (Mac laptop) and I'm getting really bad FPS (I usually play around 10-20 FPS) which is fine with me since I got used to it but it's looking really bad in videos. I talked to my friend about recording myself on his computer but this just add another time constraint. Also in the meantime we have been testing many other different builds, always trying an easier build to release to the community. I do not want to set a release date but I can assure you that I have not lost interest and that the guide will be released eventually, and will be well worth the wait. Thanks for your patience / interest
Skinny Corpse
Good news, cerb.. take your time.
gazan1204
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Good news, cerb.. take your time.
Ditto. Skinny. Ditto
Jade
One interesting thought that I had about thsi build. Can it be done with just you and a hero? Might take some managing, but if it could be done that'd be super keen!
cerb
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One interesting thought that I had about thsi build. Can it be done with just you and a hero? Might take some managing, but if it could be done that'd be super keen!
Well if your micro is awesome enough that you're able to control a hero when doing monk / necro 2-men runs, then I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Your runs will be very very intense though
Jade
Sweet. Since Sabs 3 necro hero build, my necro's been kinda boring. Everything falls down way wicked easy. Keep us posted!
Avatar Exico
it doesnt surpise me that they did it. Me and my Friend cleared almost cleared the whole Chaos Planes with 600/Smiter. IDK if it can work. get 2 600 and have the Bonder Bond both and have the both take both sides of the grp. But if you wonder a 600/Smiter can clear the Whole Chaos Planes on HM with no problems. Friend has done it with Hero and got 4 Ectos in 1 run and gold or 2.
cerb
I just tested the run with a necro hero and it worked. Well, actually I died at the four horsemen because my hero had the wonderful idea to run straight into them (still 4 ectos in that run) but at least I got there. So yeah, I'm just letting you know it's doable with a hero if you can deal with their *wonderful* AI, but I'm not trying it again! However, I'm not gonna be talking about it in my guide because it's so much trouble (need to micro the hero too much).
Still, if you plan to do this with a hero I suggest you try some smite/whatever runs with a SS necro hero for the practice. (You should set a hotkey to order your hero, and hotkeys to cast his main spells) About the guide, I'm hoping to release it by next week (although it might be in two weeks), but again, it will depend how much testing we can get done by then. I still have a few builds in mind and I want to release the best ones. Thanks for the wait, I promise you won't be disappointed!
Mr.Kotte
Its almost been a month since you first started this topic, mind acctualy sharing the build?
You know, sharing is caring... If there are any abnomalities to the usual 600/SS one. That is
kel77
Now now kottis, give the man time...
Avatar Exico
Farm the Wasteland that what me and my friend do, make rofly 15-20ectos in few hrs from what he stated to me and after seeing it in person. A run only takes 40mins tops that my guess. it works only problem is the energy for the 600. But Mo/Mes 600 with ToF build can do that whole place with no problems. Guessing they went to the 2 grps in Horsemen Quest and have the tanker, tank them while the SS casts SV on Monk so he cant get interputed then dish the dmg out with SS, that my guess how it was done.
jbwarrior
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Originally Posted by cerb
I just tested the run with a necro hero and it worked. Well, actually I died at the four horsemen because my hero had the wonderful idea to run straight into them (still 4 ectos in that run) but at least I got there. So yeah, I'm just letting you know it's doable with a hero if you can deal with their *wonderful* AI, but I'm not trying it again! However, I'm not gonna be talking about it in my guide because it's so much trouble (need to micro the hero too much).
Still, if you plan to do this with a hero I suggest you try some smite/whatever runs with a SS necro hero for the practice. (You should set a hotkey to order your hero, and hotkeys to cast his main spells) About the guide, I'm hoping to release it by next week (although it might be in two weeks), but again, it will depend how much testing we can get done by then. I still have a few builds in mind and I want to release the best ones. Thanks for the wait, I promise you won't be disappointed! Very nice Cerb, can't wait for your guide... but only one question, how can u make some hotkeys for you heroes? I'm waiting with full patience on your guide 
Akolo
new update, check f11 jorgen
and also really want this build now..
jbwarrior
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new update, check f11 jorgen
and also really want this build now.. Oops  ..... thanks handy
Avarre Testing done, guide coming. Thanks for patience.
Skinny Corpse
Hey now.. that's not Two Men.. I spot a lady
Anyhow.. can't wait!
kolpster
please please please please please dont tell me this is 55/SS build...
MercenaryKnight
Looks like it is 55/ss, just probably arcane echo on the monk to keep up spellbreaker? I would laugh if it's just the basic build and nothing special on it.
Avarre
There are several builds that work but this was just the simplest (without pve skills besides SS res).
I expect Cerb will post all the different builds we tried at a later date. Also Cerb quit pming me flames, I can show the bar I used if I want, you are writing a guide about it >_>
jbwarrior
WOW really nice job there m8, but how long did it take to clear UW with 2 men?
Avarre
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WOW really nice job there m8, but how long did it take to clear UW with 2 men?
6 hours.
Cerb decided, at 1 am (my time) to go afk for 'school' or something, so 2 of those hours were sitting around waiting for him. We also went really slow because I wouldn't let him aggro anything big in case he exploded suddenly and we would have to start over. Could probably be trimmed to 3-4h easily. Total drops, for the record - I got 7 ecto, 10 rares, and 1 diamond (from chest).
cerb
To add to what Avarre said: I died in the very beginning because I wasn't paying attention (could have done it all without dying easily) and we did all the hardest parts first (Four Horsemen, Bone Pits, Spawning Pools) and avarre wanted me to great grandmother aggro for the easy parts (smites, unwanted guests, forgotten vale)
But I suppose you could do this all in 3:30, maybe even 3 hours if you go fast enough. As for the drops, I got about 8 ectos (2 from chest), 2 diamonds and I gave all my rares to avarre for his title.
royal mercenary
great job, can t wait till one of you post the build
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Avatar Exico Break out the Pizzas and the Hamburgers be a long run. hehe Awsome Job, Can't wait for the guide .
Carboplatin
its not even about the rate of ecto/time spent.
Its more about being able to actually do that some of those quests for me. looking foward to it.
Koning
Aha, so you (avarre) lure 2 groups from 1 side, to the other side where cerb is waiting (or vice versa cerb lures to you) with the help of ele resistance (and maybe an echoed SB?). Of course not crossing the reaper, but picking the enemy groups up the other way around?
Also, I can imagine it can be a pain for Cerb to deal with the Dhuum guys and their powerblocks (even if you have mantra of resolve, I believe the skills still get disabled?). Yes, you have SB at the start, but with only arcane echo you can't constantly maintain it right? And there's way to drain them with SV/AV (since there's no melee around). So, I'm veeeeeeeeeery curious
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