Four Horsemen... Two Men
Avatar Exico
Wondering this Avarre, If Cerb has Spell Shield instead of SB from reading the notes on the skill with Max Divine +20% Enchantment mod and Blessed Aura. Spell Shield can be up the whole battle then the Horsemen cant cast skills on you. Free up a slot and Elite. You Cast Spells while in Spellbreaker wouldnt matter. It just idea that might help.
Age
There is one problem and that is when spell shield is up you can't cast spell for certain duration in either the same attribute or spells at all.This will make you venerable to spells.I thought about using this in RA but it disables them similar to blackout.
[skill]Spell Shield[/skill]
When it ends so that wouldn't be good and that is all spells.
[skill]Spell Shield[/skill]
When it ends so that wouldn't be good and that is all spells.
Avatar Exico
according to Wiki, when i checked they said if you add Blessed Aura+20% Enchantment Mod it would make Spell Shield go consistent, figure it might help the UW.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
according to Wiki, when i checked they said if you add Blessed Aura+20% Enchantment Mod it would make Spell Shield go consistent, figure it might help the UW.
We did try exactly that, and spell shield kicks ass against Mindblades since they can't use interrupts against you.
However, it's somewhat redundant.
However, it's somewhat redundant.
cerb
Oh no, we did it again!
Sorry people this is taking some time, I am receiving many PM's in game, but I bring good news: The guide should be up this week! I've got some school project to do as well but I'm working on the guide as much as I can. Also, other good news: I finally managed to record a video of the Four Horsemen on the monk side! (We have four videos of Four Horsemen total: three from the necro side and one on monk side, but it deals with the most troublesome situation so it's definately good to learn from) Also, we have Labyrinth, Unwanted Guests, Escort of Souls, Wrathful Spirits, Ice King, Chaos Planes, Twin Serpent Mountains. All good quality with awesome music (expect electronica, post-rock and 80s :P)!
I just want to say thanks for your time, I'm working really hard on this to cover every single possible question/problem one could have, deal with different type of runs (farming vs uw clearing), talk about safety as well as speedy patterns, while providing different builds, lots of videos and lots of screenshots! You won't be disappointed! So once again thanks for your patience and interest, I will do everything I can to make the guide go up this week (or weekend at most)
kel77
Get any good drops from the chest?
Jay0
any expected release date for the guide?
cerb
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Originally Posted by kel77
Get any good drops from the chest?
Ectos, Diamond, Woven Shield... partner got gems. Last time, Avarre got a runic blade out of it.
@Jay0: Read one post above yours :P
@Jay0: Read one post above yours :P
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by kel77
Get any good drops from the chest?
Tss tss kel, this isnt for the drops only.
Avatar Exico
It the abilty that it can be done with 2 people, Drops and Xp is just extra reward.
carnagesa
Plz Mr Cerb tell us how u did it (or is it mr. Gosu)
ragnagard
Mmm looking forward to see your detailed guide ^^.
Looks promising... I am thinking in the monk I will ask to do it with me... :P.
And btw... items received from chest are important, .... cause they will give you cash for another tries, :P.
One stupid question: Do you think that farm this quest and nearest ones (not the entire UW) worth the 1k fee with the dropped items?
I am a bit dissapointed with the dual 600/smiter crawlers' drop so i asked this LF a new playground :P.
Looks promising... I am thinking in the monk I will ask to do it with me... :P.
And btw... items received from chest are important, .... cause they will give you cash for another tries, :P.
One stupid question: Do you think that farm this quest and nearest ones (not the entire UW) worth the 1k fee with the dropped items?
I am a bit dissapointed with the dual 600/smiter crawlers' drop so i asked this LF a new playground :P.
cerb
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
Mmm looking forward to see your detailed guide ^^.
Looks promising... I am thinking in the monk I will ask to do it with me... :P.
And btw... items received from chest are important, .... cause they will give you cash for another tries, :P.
One stupid question: Do you think that farm this quest and nearest ones (not the entire UW) worth the 1k fee with the dropped items?
I am a bit dissapointed with the dual 600/smiter crawlers' drop so i asked this LF a new playground :P. Oh yes definately, and TBH we skip most of smites and go straight for Ice King because they never drop anything anyways.
@Avatar Exico: That is right, whole UW two men is more for the challenge than drops actually. But I will be talking about farming for efficiency in the UW as well.
Looks promising... I am thinking in the monk I will ask to do it with me... :P.
And btw... items received from chest are important, .... cause they will give you cash for another tries, :P.
One stupid question: Do you think that farm this quest and nearest ones (not the entire UW) worth the 1k fee with the dropped items?
I am a bit dissapointed with the dual 600/smiter crawlers' drop so i asked this LF a new playground :P. Oh yes definately, and TBH we skip most of smites and go straight for Ice King because they never drop anything anyways.
@Avatar Exico: That is right, whole UW two men is more for the challenge than drops actually. But I will be talking about farming for efficiency in the UW as well.
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by cerb
That is right, whole UW two men is more for the challenge than drops actually. But I will be talking about farming for efficiency in the UW as well.
See this is what I'm talking about KEL
Look ici (and my french is just incredible)
Look ici (and my french is just incredible)
cerb
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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
See this is what I'm talking about KEL
Look ici (and my french is just incredible) Well of course you get a lot of ectos and nice drops plus the end chest but if you consider the time it takes, the risks, it is not what I recommend for farming purposes only.
Look ici (and my french is just incredible) Well of course you get a lot of ectos and nice drops plus the end chest but if you consider the time it takes, the risks, it is not what I recommend for farming purposes only.
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by cerb
Oh yes definately, and TBH we skip most of smites and go straight for Ice King because they never drop anything anyways.
Well, then I think I will try a few times when ya post the guide just for fun & maybe a little more drop (I am lack of ecots ATM, rofl).
And to be clarify (for) myself.... it's done in NM or HM? (just the quest) I think that's NM cause of the screens but I only read some of the 5 pages :P
And to be clarify (for) myself.... it's done in NM or HM? (just the quest) I think that's NM cause of the screens but I only read some of the 5 pages :P
MercenaryKnight
Just curious, is there a possibility that a 3-4 man could be added to speed up the run considerably? Since it is mainly for completion/ end chest and drops along the way. Seems like if you had a smiter with the ss or whatever your using, that could add damage. Throw in a famine ranger for even more damage etc.
Avatar Exico
Esp the Ectos drop more often in Etneral Wasteland than Smites, this should be the way extra reward for doing the 2 Horsemen Quest. Besides I like a Challenge always have. Lost alot with Ursan PUG grps from someone messing up which makes it more addicted to do it.
Age
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Originally Posted by cerb
Oh no, we did it again!
Sorry people this is taking some time, I am receiving many PM's in game, but I bring good news: The guide should be up this week! I've got some school project to do as well but I'm working on the guide as much as I can. Also, other good news: I finally managed to record a video of the Four Horsemen on the monk side! (We have four videos of Four Horsemen total: three from the necro side and one on monk side, but it deals with the most troublesome situation so it's definately good to learn from) Also, we have Labyrinth, Unwanted Guests, Escort of Souls, Wrathful Spirits, Ice King, Chaos Planes, Twin Serpent Mountains. All good quality with awesome music (expect electronica, post-rock and 80s :P)!
I just want to say thanks for your time, I'm working really hard on this to cover every single possible question/problem one could have, deal with different type of runs (farming vs uw clearing), talk about safety as well as speedy patterns, while providing different builds, lots of videos and lots of screenshots! You won't be disappointed! So once again thanks for your patience and interest, I will do everything I can to make the guide go up this week (or weekend at most) You are as bad as someone else I know who use his FoW set for 55ing in.I can't wait till I get mine when ever I can master the UW and FoW.I don't get the chance to get to go down there that often.
cerb
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
Just curious, is there a possibility that a 3-4 man could be added to speed up the run considerably? Since it is mainly for completion/ end chest and drops along the way. Seems like if you had a smiter with the ss or whatever your using, that could add damage. Throw in a famine ranger for even more damage etc.
Yes, of course, this would be possible, but for optimal speed the whole team build would need to be rethought. I'll get back to you on that once I'm done with the guide!
The Rift
I think you can speed up the run alot if you manage to get 3 others monks and 3 other necros.
You just make a make 4 team's and eatch goes another direction and does a quest.
Really REALLY looking forward to you guide m8 !
You just make a make 4 team's and eatch goes another direction and does a quest.
Really REALLY looking forward to you guide m8 !
RazorEdge
That's an awesome feat, I'm impressed.
Looking forward to your guide.. ^_^
Looking forward to your guide.. ^_^
Avarre
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
Just curious, is there a possibility that a 3-4 man could be added to speed up the run considerably? Since it is mainly for completion/ end chest and drops along the way. Seems like if you had a smiter with the ss or whatever your using, that could add damage. Throw in a famine ranger for even more damage etc.
We don't typically use 600hp, so a smiter would be pretty much useless. A famine ranger could bring up the speed in some cases though - especially against the Terrorweb Queen and Horsemen which take agonizing amounts of time to kill due to their ridiculous health totals (using bow attacks). Not to mention against the melee in smites/bone pits.
jbwarrior
Ok you 2 did it again
But where is the guide
But where is the guide
MoreArrows
I hope it's worth how long this 'waiting for guide' has gone on.
xiaotsu
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Originally Posted by MoreArrows
I hope it's worth how long this 'waiting for guide' has gone on.
They cleared UW with 2 people, obviously it's going to be worth it.
Patiently waiting, you guys rock!
Patiently waiting, you guys rock!
kratimas
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Originally Posted by MoreArrows
I hope it's worth how long this 'waiting for guide' has gone on.
I love how some people sit and whine about how long the guide is taking, yet won't take the time to try it themselves. You have most of the build as it is, you know it is a monk/SS duo, you have all the skills Avarre uses on his Necro.
Anyway the point is if you arn't willing to spend money for every attempt to get this build down and correct, and write your own guide then STFU and wait for it.
Sorry its been a long day, with a bunch of whiners at work
Krat
Anyway the point is if you arn't willing to spend money for every attempt to get this build down and correct, and write your own guide then STFU and wait for it.
Sorry its been a long day, with a bunch of whiners at work
Krat
krunk
Im just waiting to see how you get the two groups from Four Horseman (probably so simple it will make me sick), after that I think Ill be set.
cerb
you just let them hit reaper...
Carboplatin
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Originally Posted by cerb
you just let them hit reaper...
hymmm that could work i guess, but most people are not brave enought to try that in the first place.
would love to see that in action
would love to see that in action
Avarre
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Originally Posted by R Langdon
hymmm that could work i guess, but most people are not brave enought to try that in the first place.
would love to see that in action We have videos of that. They will come with the guide, showing all the problems you can run into and how to deal with it.
This is the same method the 3-man UW group back in 2005 used.
would love to see that in action We have videos of that. They will come with the guide, showing all the problems you can run into and how to deal with it.
This is the same method the 3-man UW group back in 2005 used.
Akolo
hit the reaper.. k gg, thats the only guide needed for me
Good job again
Good job again
cerb
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Originally Posted by Akolo
hit the reaper.. k gg, thats the only guide needed for me
Good job again If only it was that simple
@Thread: I've been working very hard on this, didn't sleep much last night, hopefully I can release it tonight! (If not, expect it tomorrow for sure).
Good job again If only it was that simple
@Thread: I've been working very hard on this, didn't sleep much last night, hopefully I can release it tonight! (If not, expect it tomorrow for sure).
Blu
Yay, looking foward to trying soon.
OsSeGu
Can't wait for the build, i want to try it!
thnx for making the guide!
thnx for making the guide!
Lidele
cerb u are my greatest hero if this works.......im sure itd even be better than fuzzy taco's(noodle) epic farming guide in the making
prince-of-persia
If this build will be realy a great thing we may have the necro/monk UW comeback =]
Avarre
The Guide is out: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10257299
All discussion of it can go there.
Closed as this thread isn't needed anymore.
All discussion of it can go there.
Closed as this thread isn't needed anymore.