Useless Title

Firstly, there is (or used to be) variety in HA. Some people ran hex pressure, some ran condition pressure, some ran heavy shutdown, some ran builds that focused on physicals and some ran caster pressure builds. In fact, most of the rank10+ people I know and used to know got most of their fame running strong balanced builds that easily destroyed the metas when played properly. Secondly, what's so bad about running meta? The point of the hero title is to show how experienced you are in HA, so that when you're pugging for people you have something to judge them by other than their word. If you got your r10+ running bspike or iway (hi MATH) obviously you ran it properly and understood the skill and game mechanics, communicated well with your groups and so on. Yes, there may be people who have a high rank and are completely hopeless but they would be a minority.

Wrong, there are far too many R10+ players who've never played gimmick builds to disprove your assumptions. If you're a core member in a high end HA/GvG guild and that guild performs well on a regular basis then obviously it says something about your individual skill (or that of the other 7 players). Even so, there would be many players who pugged or flisted their fame.
If you're talking about the hero title then obviously they're good. A R10 Bspiker will be good at playing HA running Bspike. Similarly, a R10 balanced player will be good at playing HA running balanced, and know how to beat bspike, but not necessarily good themselves at running it.

It's simply indicative of your experience. And it's hardly comparable to a PvE title.. fail.

EDIT: I misunderstood the use of the world "useless" in the title. An actually useless title would be one that doesn't grant you anything extra or represent anything about you. Perhaps the SS title.

/disagree

without it, My sunspear skill's wouldnt be as effective as they are now,
therefore my farming builds wouldn't work as good as they do now,

But here's a thought, I want a little icon up the top left of the screen like the Lightbringer title that gives some kind of bonus. What's the point of having a R10 SS title when Lightbringer R8 has an icon with some barely noticable bonus effects.

"Sunspear"

All Kournan Damage is reduced by 2.....45% plus an additional 2% for every Sunspear title you have earnt.
(or something similar to that)

That way Sunspear wouldnt be just a title that says COMMON.

Id pick unlucky

Oh, so true. I guess there really isn't a "useless" title.

Gamer, IMO. Doesn't give any benefits as far as I know, other than being another way to tell you've spent too much time logged in. XD

The name could use a change, but I like the fact that it's like an opposite of Survivor. Survivor, exp without dying. LDoA, exp with dying.

As for most useless, for me it's Sweet Tooth. It just feels utterly pointless to have Sugar Rushs inside towns.

Title: Guild Leader

No one listens

we have a winner....cept for beneficial ones that is

Clearly unlucky is the most useless title. It does nothing, and it's virtually impossible to max.....

So you would rather spend hours grinding than having a game that makes you think as well as challanges you? You already stated you used UB for your titles as with the 95% rest of people thats why their worthless as well as your lack of skill complete them with a challange. If you were playing pong everyones paddle would be the same size as the enemies, yours would be the same size as the level, time = not fun in the context that if it only takes time to complete then whats the point? You can show how much of a life you have with those titles and thats about it. But then again you got your
e-peen so you can move along. Tell your friends at school how people tell you in a video game how cool you are while your at it.

Dont kid yourself, using UB = Domination. If you cant use UB and win then well... go back to faction farming. I'd like to ask you, what does the title give you? A sense of accomplishment? For doing practically the same thing for hours on end... on end ........ on end?

oh god, not this debate again.
"titles suck!"
"no they don't"
"noob!"
"no ur a nub!"

we can all agree that titles are really just something to show your epeen. in terms of what is actually "USEful" that would only include sunspear/lightbringer and the gwen titles, minus master of the north. that's it. close thread.

I have to disagree - it completes my necro

i like all titles, none are useless

plus they show my achievements, and how good i really am, i love it when people see my title and there like wow, how did you get legendary survivor on your assassin!!

This post is what 99% of gw players think now and you wonder why people quit the game.

if 99% of people loved titles then why would they quit because of titles? o.O

Possibly because people have already quit? Your parents were cousins I presume?

Geez, who pissed in your cheerios? Someone makes a positive post and you impart negativity on it.

Anyway, my award for the most useless title goes to Connoisseur of Confectionaries. At least Drunkard requires more thought than clicking.

you were speaking of people quitting in present tense, not past. let's douse that little flame, shall we?

The statement contained no tense, why people quit the game = could be present or past. If I told you how I meant it and you still change it back then clearly my first question went unanswered for a reason.

ok cupcake, you go do your thing.

it seems to me that the terms "useless" and "easiest to get" are being interchanged a lot. makosi, you pointed out that sweet tooth is easier to get than drunkard and is therefore more useless. but neither of those titles actually DO anything for you, so they are both equally useless. unless you get some kind of bonus ingame from having such-and-such title, they are all useless. in terms of utility, only the titles i mentioned above have any real benefit.
oh, i did forget to mention those that affect salvages/lockpick retention. so add lucky, treasure hunter, and wisdom.

Titles have become useless in my opinion. I don't know how many people look at another players name to see what title they are wearing.
HoM "achievements" (at least what I like to call them) are a fun diversion.
I would rather see titles removed from GW2 in favor of an "achievement" reward. Think Xbox Achievements but once the goal has been reached, but instead of a title or a gaming score, you earn either a weapon skin, hero, mini pet, armor skin/dye, or some trinket (all customized and untradeable if an actual item) that shows you earned this achievement. I know epeen rewards will still be looked down upon, but something that can be earned and practical use gained out of it is far more ideal to me.

Thanks I snorted coffee

LOL'd hard at that

Without reading any other posts, I'll just say this is thread winner.
<3 Malice.
/cookie

Wow dude. You're a fu*king idiot. I'd love to know what this game that challenges me is and so help me god if you say PvP I will find a way to choke you over the internet. I never stated that I had used Ursan to accomplish any of my titles, because I haven't. I've used Ursan before, who hasn't, it's in the f'ing storyline idiot. I accomplished 90% of my titles before GWEN ever came out, this is just you assuming you know something when you really don't.


Jealous much? But really though, I'm curious now. What exactly do you do in this game for fun? Specifically? You obviously do not want to do anything that requires more than 30 minutes to accomplish, so I'm assuming PvP? Playing the same maps over and over again against the same flavor of the month builds over and over all while having to deal with the most elitist pricks in the game on the home and enemy sides?

Yeah that sounds like fun.

The main reason why people bitch about titles:

Guild Wars box, verbatim. Repeated ad infinitum by Gaile Gray, Jeff Strain and others.

How do title skill grinds like Sunspear, Lightbringer, Norn et al, fit into that clear, unambiguous statement? Most people around here started playing this game because of this statement, that unlike other grind and slash MMOs, the talent of the player, not their ability to c-space like an ADD kid on meth, decided how well they played in the game. Where does Ursanway fit into this message? Where do the pve skills fit? They don't, as it's time, not skill, that decides your ability with these skills.

Titles have affected both sides of the game. Rank affects your acceptance in high level PvP, unless you stumble upon a group with an open mind. Pank will affect acceptance in elite PvE areas, especially LB/Norn rank. Hell, LB will even have an affect in Sebelkeh!

Having a title because you are proud of your achievements is understandable. Problem is, it allows others to judge your ability based on the blue words under your name.

Sunspear is gotta be the most useless title

Like malice said all of them……

Except the unlucky one I seem to work on this one the most with all the lock picks I waste

b ut you need it to progess through the game and it gets you skills, its ibviously not useless by that logic.

All of them are useless, but fun to have^^

Anything tied to skills or bonuses is kinda nice. (LotRO has that and calls them Traits).

However, I have to go with the soul-numbingly long grind-fest titles.

I play games that are are not a walk in the park to play, I mean titles should be based around skillful gameplay not time consuming gameplay, its what most MMO's do and most MMO players like to repeatedly press the same skills, against the same foes, in the same areas, with the same teams over and over because they get their e-peen. If I wanted to pvp I'd play some FPS shooter online so that its at least varied, not as you said the same maps ect. But is the vanquish title not just the same thing over and over, WAIT ITS ON A DIFFERENT MAP but its still the same sort of thing.
I hate titles because they were one of the reasons the game sucks now and if you disagree you can go play WoW because they love the grinding e-peen searchers.

Also, yes I am jealous of your online title in a video game, I wish I had it but I dont have the skill (time) to get it. If I had just 10% of the skill (patience) you had then I think we could dominate the game.

do you even play gw? you seem to hate it so much, saying such-and-such game is so much better and you hate titles and repetitiveness. well any game gets repetitive after two and a half years, and titles give people something to work on, something to keep their interest.
hate grinding rep titles? try mapping, there's some great scenery in this game. love grinding? well there's plenty for you there, plus most of the grind titles give you benefits somewhere. love pvp? well, go do that for a while and get your fancy rank-flashy thing.
bottom line: titles are an optional part of gameplay. some places you will need a certain title level to progress, like sunspear, or r3 in pvp. but ultimately it's something to do to pass the time if you've done everything else and just want something under your name to show what you've done.
this thread has gone waaaay off from the op, back to the titles rule vs titles suck debate. i'm done now.

Well I just got GW for Christmas and went out last week and got GWEN, factions and nightfall. As for titles, I like to have a feeling of 100% completion when I do something, so the titles give me the opportunity to do that. No I won't try to get all of them but some sound FUN to me. I have played many MMO and did many different things on them. And time isn't a factor to me. I play for maybe an hour or two each time I get on. That is the nice thing about MMO it is always going to be there. So you don't have to spend 15 hours out of a day playing it to accomplish anything. I love my games but I love my real life better. But the titles give me something to shoot for past the storyline of a game. That is way I play MMO's they give you something else to shoot for after you beat the storyline. So for the question, I don't think I have found one I feel is useless.

Now you, sir, need to shut the f*ck up and get the f*ck out. Oh, don't forget about your fail, either. I don't think that anyone really wants the flaming pile that is you around here anymore.

You seem to have a total lack of respect for anyone that enjoys playing their way. GW was made with the idea of the way you play being customized by the player. If someone wants to use UB to have fun, that's what it's there for.

When you get pissed at people just because they're able to keep the dedication to get them and (presumably) have fun doing so, you've got issues. You don't need to have fun watching people grind up titles, but if they have fun doing it, shut the f*ck up and leave em alone. What the hell did they ever do to you, to harm you in any way?

If you can't enjoy GW without insulting people or throwing a bitch fit whenever someone accomplishes something, the option "Uninstall" is always there. So I think you should either: a) Get a life and stop being pissy that other people accomplished something that you don't have the determination for--or b) uninstall GW.



Back on topic, now that I think of it, there actually are some titles that are useless for me--namely being any PvP title. I don't think I'll ever PvP enough to get those up, so they're useless for me right now. Drunkard/Sweet Tooth are also pretty lame for me cause I don't ahve the kind of money needed to get all the booze and candy for them.

Sunspear title is the most completely useless title ever

quote of the year.

I'm going to have to go with LDoA on this one.

Sunspear is good at being useless imo

it does just say "can i go further in the game pliiiiz" for a short while

ok there are skills with that, but still...

For me the only reason i care about titles and are annoyed by them is because it affects the fun a lot. If you want to do some elite mission you can't get a party if you are not rank bla bla in title jabberjabber. They rather have someone framing/grinding/whatever for titles then someone who might know what he is doing, just by judging from titles.
But then again, all this isn't that big of a deal with a decent guild.

As a beastmaster lover, i'm upset the most that they expect me to do things over and over again to get a great pet. People of course will say 'lol who cares about the pet'. Well, i think the same people who care about the game as game itself, not the "game" of looking for the most efficient builds and or ways to get a lot of gold/items in the shortest time possible.
I don't play for acknowledgement. I couldn't care less if I'm playing a build with only xx dmg per second while i could play one with xxxx dmg per second. Or when i can finish a mission 10 minutes faster with xx and xx build.
I care about having fun living a story, and preferably the way i like (of course within the limits of the game and setting; no use having a machinegun around here =) ). But don't let have the titles affect the game, but just make it an extra for players who are bored.

But that brings us (whoever kept on reading) to my next point about titels:
Imho, if you need titles in a mmorpg to keep it interesting, there's something wrong with it. For me it's a weak shot to keep players playing without having to add any story whatsoever. Just throw in a title system based on useless things like drinking, eating or standing AFK on a circle and whooptidoo, there you go, another xx days to be playing. Or put in titles which you can archieve only by farming to have certain skills be better. So you can use those skills for.... eehm.. more farming and titlehunting? Because by the time that skill is usefull you have already finished almost everything possible.

As said before, if you can't even get into a pug without having certain ranks, then the whole point of playing together gets lost. Why do we still have a level cap if the max level is still not enough to quallify for missions with other human players.

No, i'm not hating guildwars, because i like to play in these kinds of environments and i stick to my own game, but the titles are really making the game change from 'interactive story with a lot of human players' to 'show of who puts the most time and money in it'.

The reason titles CAN exist, is the incredible urge of people to show off, and since it's more about putting time in it, then actually have archieved something by skill makes it completely useless.
Otherwise they just would give a notification you archieved something on a personal screen.

The only usefull title i can think of, is one that shows you have finished ALL quests and missions. Because then you know you finished the game as a whole. Protector/guardian is a nice try, but just leave it to that only title; "I've completed all the available quests and missions."

As long as (most) titles are based on how much time or money you spend, rather than that you really ARCHIEVED something, they are useless, unless you like to show off with them.

Incorrigible Ale-Hound and Conossieur (sp?) of Confectioneries


There is really nothing to those titles besides sitting in some corner spamming WTB adds and double clicking on a stack.