This message isn't really to guildwarsguru people but for ANet to consider in their next skill balance (if they decide to have one sometime) because they only consider changes proposed on fansites
Please buff Hundred Blades because right now it is not at all a viable elite skill! It has no extra, armor penetrating damage, which is enough reason for a buff imo. and don't screw up pvp with your change.
What I propose: add bonus, armor ignoring damage like in triple chop.
Also, I probably won't check back here, so if you want to flame me send it in a PM.
Request for buff to Hundred Blades
tonyh
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If they were to buff every skill that wasn't that great the update would take hours to load. I mean half the fire ele elites have very little use. mesmers well lets not go there. needless to say they aren't going to fix that one skill because its not good enough they are trying to eve things out not make 1 class better. not meant to offend or anything it just would make no real sense to change it.
Axel Zinfandel
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Hundred blades strike -twice-, whereas Triple Chop strikes once? It may not be directly useful (as I can remember numerous times where I've hit <10 damage for each hit), but I can think of numerous build just off the top of my head where that would be more useful, like taking buffs from the smiting line. You may not do much damage, but it's an amazing way to charge Adrenal skills fast.
Although it -has- become outdated with other sword elites (Dragon Slash comes to mind). I could vouch for a small AR penetration buff, but nothing seriously big.
Although it -has- become outdated with other sword elites (Dragon Slash comes to mind). I could vouch for a small AR penetration buff, but nothing seriously big.
Pyro maniac
hit three times
but sword elites shouldn't be good in damage
but sword elites shouldn't be good in damage
Axel Zinfandel
I personally think the sword is only used in PvE for Dragon slash. other then that, people use Axes. period. Swords don't do much of anything in PvE except cost money. You can replicate pretty much anything and more on an Axe build.
So, I don't think Hundred Blades needs a buff, I think -swords- need a buff.
So, I don't think Hundred Blades needs a buff, I think -swords- need a buff.
druggedchimp
Logically, it should hit 100 times.
Biostem
[skill]hundred blades[/skill]
It's an AoE sword attack that hits twice. Take into account its relatively low energy cost and short recharge.
[skill]triple chop[/skill]
The damage appears better for triple chop, it has the same energy cost, a slightly longer recharge, but it doesn't strike twice. As part of an adrenaline build, hundred blades can help generate adrenaline quickly against tightly grouped foes.
If you don't have factions, then it is a good choice.
It's an AoE sword attack that hits twice. Take into account its relatively low energy cost and short recharge.
[skill]triple chop[/skill]
The damage appears better for triple chop, it has the same energy cost, a slightly longer recharge, but it doesn't strike twice. As part of an adrenaline build, hundred blades can help generate adrenaline quickly against tightly grouped foes.
If you don't have factions, then it is a good choice.
Cherng Butter
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Originally Posted by druggedchimp
Logically, it should hit 100 times.
Though it'd make a mess of your screen and probably cause a crash, a hundred -1's from Hundred Blades would make it an interesting elite skill :P
LockerLoad
Hundred blades works fine the way it is... If you're a W/Mo farming with vigorous spirit and a vamp hilt.
I guess it could perhaps use a shorter recharge.
I guess it could perhaps use a shorter recharge.
pygar
Hmm...
I use Hundred Blades on my Koss and he seems to do pretty well with it. It's not as flashy as Dragonslash, but Koss didn't seem to use Dragonslash right.
Maybe a small kick of extra damage, maybe a little buff to the recharge....if they changed anything though they would have to be careful about it, Hundred Blades is already pretty decent in the right situations. (just not "uber")
I use Hundred Blades on my Koss and he seems to do pretty well with it. It's not as flashy as Dragonslash, but Koss didn't seem to use Dragonslash right.
Maybe a small kick of extra damage, maybe a little buff to the recharge....if they changed anything though they would have to be careful about it, Hundred Blades is already pretty decent in the right situations. (just not "uber")
Splitisoda
Not another one of these threads.
Hundred blades is just one of those elites where if you possibly buff it, it could get worse. If it gave extra damage, you'd probably see in farming builds [skill]Signet of Strength[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill] and [skill]Hundred Blades[/skill] and you would have high damage, + mega healage.
Hundred blades is just one of those elites where if you possibly buff it, it could get worse. If it gave extra damage, you'd probably see in farming builds [skill]Signet of Strength[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill] and [skill]Hundred Blades[/skill] and you would have high damage, + mega healage.
pygar
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Originally Posted by Splitisoda
Not another one of these threads.
Hundred blades is just one of those elites where if you possibly buff it, it could get worse. If it gave extra damage, you'd probably see in farming builds [skill]Signet of Strength[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill] and [skill]Hundred Blades[/skill] and you would have high damage, + mega healage. People just want to know why Hundred Blades is so different from Triple Chop....your example above can use triple chop to get almost the exact effect you are talking about and nobody complains. Since A-net has been looking to buff unused skills to get people making some different builds I think the question posed here is legit, even though the subject has come up many times. (proof that maybe A-net should do something about this, especially since word on the street is 100Blades is only elite because of a very old "nerf" that was made all the way back at the dawn of GW time)
Some say that the Axe is supposed to do more damage than the sword...but then what is the benefit of using a sword over an axe? Ripostes?
Hundred blades is just one of those elites where if you possibly buff it, it could get worse. If it gave extra damage, you'd probably see in farming builds [skill]Signet of Strength[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill] and [skill]Hundred Blades[/skill] and you would have high damage, + mega healage. People just want to know why Hundred Blades is so different from Triple Chop....your example above can use triple chop to get almost the exact effect you are talking about and nobody complains. Since A-net has been looking to buff unused skills to get people making some different builds I think the question posed here is legit, even though the subject has come up many times. (proof that maybe A-net should do something about this, especially since word on the street is 100Blades is only elite because of a very old "nerf" that was made all the way back at the dawn of GW time)
Some say that the Axe is supposed to do more damage than the sword...but then what is the benefit of using a sword over an axe? Ripostes?
Captain Miken
Wasn't even an elite skill until people abused it with IW.
Giga_Gaia
The way I see it, Hundred Blades is generally too good for a normal skill, but not THAT special about it to be given an elite spot. Kind of like a PvE only skill. So to be more deserving of an elite, I think it should be given a buff.
arcanemacabre
Shorten recharge to 4-5 seconds, IMO.
Giga_Gaia
Or maybe even make the attacks unblockable ala Sun & Moon Slash?
Takonic
i think back in the day this was a no-attributed skill....worked with axes and such? :P
Macks Mistress
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Originally Posted by druggedchimp
Logically, it should hit 100 times.
I like your logic.
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Splitisoda
HB just has got bad numbers, no bad mechanic ..
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Originally Posted by Takonic
i think back in the day this was a no-attributed skill....worked with axes and such? :P
I thought it used to be non-elite ^^
Zamochit
It was a non elite but it got abused with Illusionary weaponary pretty badly.
distilledwill
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Originally Posted by druggedchimp
Logically, it should hit 100 times.
[card]Hundred Blades[/card] + [card]Barbs[/card]
ftw.
Jaigoda
IMO, it'd balance out very well if it was a 5-sec recharge, and it was unblockable. It has the advantage over Triple Chop from being spammable, and better with damage buffs and adren building, though it has the disadvantage of doing less damage, and being in a less powerful line overall.
Captain Miken
this is my uber hb build:
conjure flame hundred blades gash sever hamstring firestorm riposte deadly riposte okay okay but in reality: conjure lightning hb sever gash s&m strike shock -optional- res signet works pretty decent~
Axel Zinfandel
I would suggest getting rid of it's elite status, and making it remove all enchantments, but then again that would anger the little group of farmers that use it :/.
That's the trouble with people abusing Illusionary+ Hundred blades. Theres essentially no good way to solve it other then keeping HB Elite. Any change I can think of would completely disrupt how it is used. Kenny Mack
hundred blades does not need to be buffed. its already good. if u add a conjure or any physical buff and go into pve u hit everything anyway for moderately high damage, not bad on a weapon with 15-22!
and as said before it is a good charge for adren. it might not be useful in pvp, but it is in pve, so frankly leave it as it is
Savio
Hundred Blades isn't good, but it doesn't need a buff either.
killress
The only reason, IMO that it's an elite is because it would own with IW... no need for a buff really. want AoE? go axe.
Marverick
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Originally Posted by killress
The only reason, IMO that it's an elite is because it would own with IW... no need for a buff really. want AoE? go axe.
How would hundred blades own with IW? I highly doubt anyone would use IW, even with that, outside of RA...
Axel Zinfandel
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Originally Posted by Marverick
How would hundred blades own with IW? I highly doubt anyone would use IW, even with that, outside of RA...
1. 84 armor ignoring damage to everyone around you every time you use it.
2. It's essentially unlinked Tyla
Imo stick +20 Damage onto it -- scaling with Swordsmanship, ofcourse and maybe Unlockable!!!
Marverick
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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
1. 84 armor ignoring damage to everyone around you every time you use it.
2. It's essentially unlinked But IW still fails regardless. And if you're running superior runes then that's more fail.
MasterSasori
Hundred Blades will forever remain terrible.
isamu kurosawa
Should have kept the 15th mes elite imo and reworked hundred blades to only allow the additional strikes if the first one hits. But its too late for that now.
i vote to give it a silly rework like strike 100 times for 1dmg.
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
i vote to give it a silly rework like strike 100 times for 1dmg.
Any shield mod -2, Union, Shield of absorption will own your version of hundred blades lol Nice cactus. I rather bring that then a warrior who uses hundred blades.
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by MasterSasori
Any shield mod -2, Union, Shield of absorption will own your version of hundred blades lol
Nice cactus. I rather bring that then a warrior who uses hundred blades. gogo vamp mod? Incase you didn't notice it wasn't serious 
Freezyguy
How about making it do 100 dmg split between all adjacent foes. Ownage vs. 1 target, shitty when surrounded. Could be interesting.
Taurus
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Originally Posted by Captain Miken
this is my uber hb build:
conjure flame hundred blades gash sever hamstring firestorm riposte deadly riposte okay okay but in reality: conjure lightning hb sever gash s&m strike shock -optional- res signet works pretty decent~ you are a pervert. Targuil
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
Should have kept the 15th mes elite imo and reworked hundred blades to only allow the additional strikes if the first one hits. But its too late for that now.
i vote to give it a silly rework like strike 100 times for 1dmg. 1000 needles ftw, but that would own with barbs or... Mark of Pain. Taurus
My only problem with Hundred Blades is that it hits foes adjacent to YOUR target, and not adjacent to you. Pretty much making a elite do what scythes can do already.
Doesnt really matter, its too late to apply some changes, not worth the time anymore.
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
gogo vamp mod?
Incase you didn't notice it wasn't serious
I'd still bring the cactus over a warrior that uses hundred blades.
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