What is your top 3 ArenaNet mistakes?

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

1. Failure to make quick decisions in regards to PvP matters. How long from "Remove Heroes/6v6/Killcount" did it take to actually get something done?

2. Loot scaling.

3. Zaishen Chest. I do not RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING enjoy getting a Zaishen Key from the Hall Of Heroes chest to come unlock another chest to get a Creme Brulee.

fanatic 's faith

fanatic 's faith

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guild Wars

Currently retired from [Cape]

E/

1. Lootscaling
2. Hard Mode (increased drops)
3. Zaishen chest

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

1 Ursan blessing
2 lootscaling
3 GW: EN is too short for the money i give on it IMO

SimonSez

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Sweden

Special Attack Division [SAD]

E/Mo

1 Soul reaping nerf
2 Making pets bodies unexploited (or what it is calles :S )
3 Wisdom and Treasure title is characterbased

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

1. Total negation of over popular requests, with very poor excuses of being "hard" or "impossible" to develop. Like: Trade House, Hair Change, Full Heroes, and some other suggestions for PvP.

2. "Balancing" PvP affecting PvE, and viceversa.

3. Throwing to the garbage interesting projects for GW1 (Full stand-alone campaigns. GW:Utopia?), because they "think" GW2 is a better idea. (I even think playable races was originally planed for GW1, I have some evidences making me think that; Also, norn elite skills look like an aborted Druid profession)

TimTimTimma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Indianapolis

krazy Guild with Krazzzzy People [krzy]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith
1. Lootscaling
2. Hard Mode (increased drops)
3. Zaishen chest
Stop bitching about the fkn Zaishen Chest. There is absolutely nothing wrong with awarding pvp players for farming in their own way.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TimTimTimma
Stop bitching about the fkn Zaishen Chest. There is absolutely nothing wrong with awarding pvp players for farming in their own way.
with the drops of the chest you can better unlock upgrades instead of wasting it on keys to open it
i got useless stuff out of it
so you won't see me near the zaishen chest again

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TimTimTimma
Stop bitching about the fkn Zaishen Chest. There is absolutely nothing wrong with awarding pvp players for farming in their own way.
Not to mention most times you dont get anything good from it. Ive opened that chest about 20 times and got the odd rubbish gold and purple and mostly food and drink instead.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
1.
3. Throwing to the garbage interesting projects for GW1 (Full stand-alone campaigns. GW:Utopia?), because they "think" GW2 is a better idea. (I even think playable races was originally planed for GW1, I have some evidences making me think that; Also, norn elite skills look like an aborted Druid profession)
Just out of curiousity, could just one person show me a quote from one of the Anet staff which clearly states anything like that?

I cant say ive read anything or heard anything saying Anet is stopping the support or development of GWs1?

Please correct me if im wrong and show me the evidence, because otherwise stop with the wild speculation. But even so... whats wrong with them putting priority on GW2. Its likely most of what you mentioned will be incorporated into that game due to not being in the first one.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

1 Not seperating pvp from PVE, so they can nerf pvp to hell and NOT have it effect the VAST majority of people who play GW and don't give a damm about pvp.

2) Random UBER rare Mini pets EG The Polar Bear

3) The BMP fiscao. They should of told us we could of bought it later, not given us the false impression it was something that was an one off and would be special to those who got it.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

1.) Adding beneficial grind titles
2.) Loot scaling
3.) Bad skill balancing

What's with people saying PvP Characters and inscriptions? Without PvP Characters, I would have quit over a year ago.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
IIRC its a limitation of the database (SQL) and somehow would be very hard to implement. GW2 will be architected differently and have an AH.
Exactly. And more in ANet's defense, they didn't really expect people would stay so long in PvE anyways.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
3) The BMP fiscao. They should of told us we could of bought it later, not given us the false impression it was something that was an one off and would be special to those who got it.
While I'm glad it's being made accessible by everyone, I only wish I thought more about how ANet works and waited to buy GW:EN in stores with a box than online.

PinoyRurik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

PNAS

W/Mo

top 5 mistakes..
1. Zaishen Chest... Whats the use of HOH now?
2. Hardmode... Can you say BOT farmer in Int Bergen Hot Springs?
3. Faction Campaign... Rushed in production IMO. Waste of $50.
4. GW:EN's long quests... Why not make it a mission?
5. Holiday and Celebration Events... First year :WOW 2nd year: Hmm didnt i see these before? 3rd Year: WTF THIS AGAIN?!

OH almost forgot..
A.nets biggest mistake....
Inscription...Why cant u just leave me and my tyrian perfs alone!?

Alex Morningstar

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

1. Heros.
2. Lack of central selling format (aka auction house).
3. Delay in the /report feature.

If I had to add a #4,

4. Delay in making their own wiki, causing there two be 2 alright ones instead of one very good easily accessable one ingame.

TimTimTimma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Indianapolis

krazy Guild with Krazzzzy People [krzy]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
with the drops of the chest you can better unlock upgrades instead of wasting it on keys to open it
i got useless stuff out of it
so you won't see me near the zaishen chest again
That doesn't make it a mistake or a bad implementation on any level. If a pvp player decides they want to "waste" their keys on the zaishen chest instead of unlocking upgrades, let that be there decision. This arguement /fails

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Not to mention most times you dont get anything good from it. Ive opened that chest about 20 times and got the odd rubbish gold and purple and mostly food and drink instead.
Um, I can safely say I have opened this chest over 100 times and not gotten a SINGLE purple. Yes I have gotten a lot of flasks of water, creme brules, and regular tomes. But I have also gotten several elite tomes, nice rare skinned items, and lockpicks. It is just like any other chest in pve, with the exception it can only be access through balthazar faction redemption which can only be gained through pvp. If you don't like it, don't open it; but don't turn around and say it was a mistake just because you don' get what you want out of it.

The zaishen chest is anets answer to many pvpers plea for a sink to our blathazar faction, because some of us really enjoy farming it but have nothing useful to dump it into. I myself have over 2,000,000 balthazar faction, and for one am glad anet implemented something I can dump my faction into while getting something back, unlike tournament tokens which do nothing but get me into tournaments I don't participate in.

/endrant

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

i actually like the zaishen chest. all the ppl who complain it sux remember this ITS A BONUS FOR PVP. its not something u go buy keys for cuz its a reward for how much u pvp. even if it drops absolute crap, u dont have to go use it.

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

1: No auction house/player shop system that's is in practically every online RPG.
2: HoM only accepting Destroyer weapons. (And Tormented weapons aren't good enough why?)
3: The various and numerous farming nerfs in the past.

I love Anet but the above I hate >.<

"But I can tell you what one of their greatest moves were: never having an official forum." Amen to that x100. I'm quite certain it would look like the WoW forums... And nobody needs that on their screen... NOBODY!

"Bad skill balancing" IMO GW's skills are very balanced in comparison to many games, but that's just my opinion I suppose.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

1) Greens / Inscriptions / Zaishen Chest
2) Loot Scaling
3) Dungeons

special: HoM being such a joke

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

I really think people should quit thinking GW2 will be like WoW.

Yes, we'll have a persistent world, there's people in here saying the game is too instanced, but.. you don't want a persistent world?

The level cap is too high.. there's people in here complaining about it being too low.

I honestly think GW2 will be incredible, if you don't, that's fine, but stop contradicting yourselves and other trollers.

Nodensis

Nodensis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

United Provinces of the Netherlands

Legend of the White [Moa]

Rt/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
I really think people should quit thinking GW2 will be like WoW.

Yes, we'll have a persistent world, there's people in here saying the game is too instanced, but.. you don't want a persistent world?

The level cap is too high.. there's people in here complaining about it being too low.

I honestly think GW2 will be incredible, if you don't, that's fine, but stop contradicting yourselves and other trollers.
Ty for your comment. As you said, people insult anet for a lack of updates AND not modding GW2 enough. A-net isnt stupid, it'll at least do one of the two.

So, apart from zaichest and pve skills, what do you guys think a-net could do better at the 'real'-game?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

1.) Trader resets :P
2.)Deathleveling the only way to get LDoA.
3.)Not really a mistake.....but not adding halloween quests

Nude Nira

Nude Nira

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside a tanning bed

It's Raining Fame Hallelujah 【傘回傘】

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
1. Total negation of over popular requests, with very poor excuses of being "hard" or "impossible" to develop. Like: Trade House, Hair Change, Full Heroes, and some other suggestions for PvP.

2. "Balancing" PvP affecting PvE, and viceversa.

3. Throwing to the garbage interesting projects for GW1 (Full stand-alone campaigns. GW:Utopia?), because they "think" GW2 is a better idea. (I even think playable races was originally planed for GW1, I have some evidences making me think that; Also, norn elite skills look like an aborted Druid profession)
I agree with you 100% esp with your #1st one, I think it's just plain stupid that Anet tells us that it's "impossible" and it's hard? I don't give a shit, you hire people that code and do whatever they do with computers i know 100% that they can. Being lazy ftw...

And now for my 3.

1. Loot Scaling/Farming nerfs.
2. NF and EotN...biggest waste of time ever.
3. Various skill "updates" if you can call them that.

and just because.

4. Gaile still working for Anet.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
with the drops of the chest you can better unlock upgrades instead of wasting it on keys to open it
i got useless stuff out of it
so you won't see me near the zaishen chest again
If you aren't UAX, don't use the chest. DUH. I only use it because I don't have any more skills I need to unlock (unless some leet lava arrows buff allows for a spike or something )

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

1) Glitches in weapons. I have a weapon I can't put back into Storage, even though I took it out of there. This is the second time in a week I've had this particular annoyance. None of these are even customised...

2) Loot scaling

3) Trade system, esp. the lack of centralized market/auction house

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

1. Lack of gameplay replayability (After you beat a campaign, you already know what's going to happen and stuff... It would be cooler if it was a different story for a different proffesion and stuff)

2. Not telling us wether the Xunlai Market exists

3. The many bugs. The duping bugs, that map travel one from the Guild Hall, and all those other little bugs that don't give any gain, just let you go through walls and stuff and noobs go "OMG IM LykEE SO UbAA L33ttt!!!11"

And that's about it ^-^

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

1. The Old Favor Concept
2. Grind-based PvE skills
3. Design of Domain of Anguish

Karia Mirniman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Loot scaling
Turning GW into a hampster wheel only fit for bots
Assassins teleportation skills

Oukanna

Oukanna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Shaolin Guardians

E/D

mmmm *thinks*

1. Giving up on gw1 and moving to gw2 (they could of continued gw1 and improved it to become one of the best games around, but sadly no)

2. Doing different promos in different Countries and giving everything to America and forgetting the rest of the world.

3. no decent trading system (standing in outposts for ages trying to scroll through spams to see if anyone wants your stuff, or has stuff you want, is time waisting)

PhQ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Finland

The X Viles [TXV]

E/

1)Heroes
2)Henches
3)Greens

wilq

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

[RTF]

Mo/Me

1) loot scaling
2) inscriptions
3) nf + eotn
4) heroes

Woo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Teh Academy [PhD]

1. Not nerfing Ursan
2. Not nerfing Ursan
... 3. Not nerfing Ursan

- That skill ruined so much.

Ku Ku

Ku Ku

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

[MYST]

Rt/R

Well i wouldnt call them mistakes... how about things i wished they'd done?

1. More diverse character creation (its the best bit XD!)
2. I agree with In game auction (/beg)
3. A factions expansion. I know not everyone likes the continent... but.. i love it!

bpphantom

bpphantom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canukistan

The Eyes of Ashtabula [Eyes]

1. Factions
2. Locked Gates
3. Faction Grind

Number 1 included the rest so it really stands alone as my 3 items. Not necessarily mistakes, perhaps "hated" is a better term for me.

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

1. Some titles are a travesty of game design: LDoA, Survivor, Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, KoaBD etc... although I liked Cartographer and Protector.

2. Too many classes and skills. They let the game get unmanageable and they know it. TBH I'm really surprised they didn't see it coming.

3. No auction house type thing. In Dark Age of Camelot I had an NPC I could dump items on that I wanted to sell, mark them up, and players would buy them while I was doing my own thing. No need to waste time spamming in trade chat. Roll on Xunlai Marketplace (assuming it's coming...)

dirran

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

1 - th bmp "marketing" and "change of mind" - this had the opposite effect of convincing people not to buy online anymore (and some ppl just not to buy anywhere anymore).
2 - not providing an expand text option for the trade channel where text is cutoff.
3 - not making all campaign items inscribable

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

1) Reskinned Armor
2) Not enough Item/Weapon/Armor content.
3) Not enough non-combat content. Crafting or other "professions" would add so much to character development.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

1. Item drops

Most item drops in Guild Wars are useless junk that just goes to a merchant, collector, or other money sink. The only saleable, equippable items are a very limited number of runes and perfect weapon upgrades, and rare skins for those people willing to take the time to trade them.

As a result, people who were in the game early had the ability to create enormous wealth for themselves (people who were able to get greens when they first came into abundance were really in luck, as were people who could farm trolls, gryphons, etc. before the nerfing) while people who came in later, either to the expansions or just later in Prophecies, really get screwed on the matter of making enough money to buy anything beyond the bare necessities.

2. PvE/PvP tie

PvE and PvP are not, never were, and never will be the same thing. They don't draw the same types of people. They require entirely different attitudes and tactics and in no way should the behavior of the skills be tied together between the two styles of play in such a heavily competetive game. Tying them together and then trying to insist on "balance" in PvP matches was blatantly ridiculous from the start and should have been plainly obvious (and probably would have been if ANET's goal hadn't been to force players from PvE into PvP as the endgame).

At least they fixed the ridiculous favor system that relied on PvP success to open certain PvE areas...

3. Lack of balance in high-end PvE content

Anyone remember when there were practically only three ways to get into the Realms? 1) Be a necro or monk or 2) Solo it if you could or 3) enough of your guild mates were on and willing to go.

Not only could you only get in when your continent's PvP players were doing well, you could also only get in with guildies or very specific skill makeups (and in that case you only got to go if you were willing to just farm - forget questing). As a warrior, I basically didn't get to go to the Realms more than once every two or three months. Forget about trying to get a group for Tombs with a warrior. I think I've found one freaking PUG to do it with, and I did better with henches than that group did.

Sins and mesmers have it even worse. They're not necessary for anything in any part of PvE and really are only even useful to a player group if the player behind them is ridiculously skilled.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

1. This is a future one - Not being asked to Test GW2 …

2. Auction house

3. Not enough random (what I mean is) things that just change as you play and does not have to do with story line just random events like zone out of a town into a Charr patrol that was never there before. Or after finishing a mission randomly get triple the rewards. Or while exploring you find a gold weapon just lying on the ground Things that can not be predicted or foreseen.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

1. No Auction House. Trading in GW has always been and always will be fundamentally broken and using a ludicrously antiquated "you must become a hardcore trade spammer and give yourself migraine headaches to trade" system.

2. Way, way too many incessant nerfings of anything and everything that is common and effective in PVP.

3. Hardly any ways to develop your character. Even Gaile once posted a response in agreement with a poster who said GW has very limited character development. But that is not a "good" thing like some people like to make it out to be.

Billeh

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

New York

Crew of the Forsaken[LaZy]

E/

1) Cancelling Utopia
2) Making Kaineng like a maze
3) HoM I am not going to spend hours Grinding titles and wasting amssive amounts of cash to get some Lame reward in GW2