What do you think was the worst skill nerf

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Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
#141
I remember that at one time, Balth's spirit give you back 1 energy per point in smiting you had. That was the coolest skill break and fixing it was probably the biggest nerf.
Nemo the Capitalist
Nemo the Capitalist
Desert Nomad
#142
Energizing wind EW worst nerf


stygian gems up to 4k!
used ot be 1.5k
Puebert
Puebert
Desert Nomad
#143
Signet of Ghostly Might was hit pretty hard.

maraxusofk
maraxusofk
Desert Nomad
#144
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
dont fool yourself, it was a pvp induced nerf.

"steamrolling" through pve areas is easily done now using many many different means, the most imba springing to mind is Ursan of course.

the nerf if you look at if from purely a pve perspective makes NO sense in the current state of the game.

not that anet gives a damn, they show no consistency in their game "vision" at all.

edit : im not arguing that it didnt need fixing, i think balance is key in PvE as well.
umm yeah, not really sure about mm being nerfed out of pvp. the only build to have used minions without a cap in pvp was minion factory, where 2 ppl sacced themselves and 2 rezmers would rez them over and over to have exploitable corpses. the build was nothing compared to the other pvp builds (quick shot shout spd ranger spike, iway, spirit spam) at the time because it was so fragile and wasnt lethal enough so im not sure if the mm cap was really pvp induced.

iway, spirit spam = eoe no minions
any spike team, remove dark bond, spike mm out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
Hasn't splinter weapon already been nerfed to only affect 3 adjacent foes, instead of all adjacent foes?
this was an uncessary nerf. if ppl are standing balled up to each other in pvp, they deserve to eat splinter dmg.
Kashrlyyk
Kashrlyyk
Jungle Guide
#145
Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
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this was an uncessary nerf. if ppl are standing balled up to each other in pvp, they deserve to eat splinter dmg.
Tell that to the stupid NPC characters, which you don´t control.
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#146
For me- HoTO aka "oi, look, it's been fine for 2 years, let's nerf it"
RhanoctJocosa
RhanoctJocosa
Legendary Korean
#148
dont remember if ive posted in here before, but

[skill]Gale[/skill][skill]Blackout[/skill]
Sleeper Service
Sleeper Service
Jungle Guide
#149
Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
umm yeah, not really sure about mm being nerfed out of pvp. the only build to have used minions without a cap in pvp was minion factory, where 2 ppl sacced themselves and 2 rezmers would rez them over and over to have exploitable corpses. the build was nothing compared to the other pvp builds (quick shot shout spd ranger spike, iway, spirit spam) at the time because it was so fragile and wasnt lethal enough so im not sure if the mm cap was really pvp induced.
AB MM rampages was a real issue. Agreed counters exist(ed) but unfortunately not the required coordination to go with it.

same old, same old really.
m
mulzi
Pre-Searing Cadet
#150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Zeth
[skill]Light Of Deliverance[/skill]
Nothing looks like a mistake more than when a skill is changed so drastically, that Anet has to remove it from a henchman's skillbar. They had to see at that point that the skill would have no further use and should tweak it in a different manner...
Numa Pompilius
Numa Pompilius
Grotto Attendant
#151
ANets problems all stem from listening too much to the players. For real.

Players don't care about balance or the enjoyment of others, they care about their own personal experience. Listening to the players is a bad idea.
An even worse idea is listening to "top players", be they the best PvP players or the wealthiest PvE farmers, because they're the very most myopically self-interested players of the entire playerbase.

Trust your goddamn game designers, ignore the bitch & whine from the players, and the game will be fine.
RhanoctJocosa
RhanoctJocosa
Legendary Korean
#152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
ANets problems all stem from listening too much to the players. For real.

Players don't care about balance or the enjoyment of others, they care about their own personal experience. Listening to the players is a bad idea.
An even worse idea is listening to "top players", be they the best PvP players or the wealthiest PvE farmers, because they're the very most myopically self-interested players of the entire playerbase.

Trust your goddamn game designers, ignore the bitch & whine from the players, and the game will be fine.
This is an extremely bad post.

ANET: hay guyz i herd rt spike wuz gud c/d
izzy: c lolz
ANET: lolz wut we do 2 fix??
izzy: um lolz put exhaustion on dem spike skills!
ANET: rofl gg
izzy: kthx

*8 months later*

ANET: awwwwww youuuuuuuuuuu, dem playerz b complainin bout lack of skill balance?
izzy: oshi, buff dwarven battle stance nd call me in a few months, im off to tf2
ANET: kaiz, pc dawg

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
For me- HoTO aka "oi, look, it's been fine for 2 years, let's nerf it"
Their reasoning was probably to finally stop instagib assassin combos, but at that stage they were already considerably weaker.
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
#153
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
ANets problems all stem from listening too much to the players. For real.
One of ANet's problems would be listening to the wrong players - typically the good players have much better suggestions for balance.
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#154
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Their reasoning was probably to finally stop instagib assassin combos, but at that stage they were already considerably weaker.
Their solutions are terrible.
"Damn, this mosquito annoys me. I need to buy an A-bomb"
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Ace_000
Ascalonian Squire
#155
Light of Deliverance
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odly
Krytan Explorer
#156
Incomming totally overpowered --> not usable now !
street peddler
street peddler
Wilds Pathfinder
#157
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Their solutions are terrible.
"Damn, this mosquito annoys me. I need to buy an A-bomb"
they killed the insta-gib assassin, best nerf ever.
G
Grammar
Wilds Pathfinder
#158
Light of Deliverance. No question.
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#159
Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
this was an uncessary nerf. if ppl are standing balled up to each other in pvp, they deserve to eat splinter dmg.
stay in HA or whatever you do

Stay out of GvG, you don't understand things like "NPCs", apparently.
Tamuril elansar
Tamuril elansar
Wilds Pathfinder
#160
gale and blackout.

splinters en EW were one of the nerfs i was happy with, now they need to nerf splinter even harder and fix npc placement at VoD.
i also like the incomming nerf alot.