Remember, dont use Sundering!

Valeria

Valeria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Germany

PaRe

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Vamp mods have one big malus... they are NO fun to play in PvE. Sure its no problem to heal you with only -1 degeneration and you can switch the weapons any time once you are out of combat.
But its annoying to switch weapons every time and makes you lose the normal hp regeneration over time.

Elemental dmg is not that good. you don't profit from many spells (like order of...) anymore and if you are fighting ranger or ele enemies, you'll face a lot of elemental resistance. I would use a fire mod only in combination with conjure flame or something like that or for farming certain enemies.

thats why many rely on sundering because you have a bonus without any drawback. Crippling, cruel and other condition upgrades are nice too but you have to use certain skills to make any use of them.

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The only place my tests have ever seen a difference is with criticals. It's negligible on any regular attack I have tried. Thats only because criticals do a fixed amount of damage. If you get +20%dmg on a attack that deals 10-20 dmg you won't notice (unless you deal 21+dmg). The dmg bonus doesn't change if you get a critical or not.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
I repeat, it's a matter of preference.
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Originally Posted by Valeria
But its annoying to switch weapons every time..

thats why many rely on sundering because you have a bonus without any drawback. Translation: If you are either (1) easily annoyed or (2) lazy, Sundering is a valid preference.

If you want to maximize your damage, Vampiric is the clear choice.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Why yes, I do. I know that I'm not a gear elitist fresh from World of Warcrack. To be honest, I prefer the Elemental sword hilts to the others. I don't play WoW and never will, dude. I play to win, and that means being the best that I can be. There is enough statistics out there that have proven vampiric tops sundering and rehashing this become an opinion forum. My opinion or your opinion.. DOES NOT MATTER... the stats say that vampiric does more damage than sundering.

As for you starting to flame, grow up nub.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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noob: suchandsuch is better because i believe it is!
JR: statistics show that thisotherthing is better than suchandsuch.
noob: you are an elitist world of warcrack a-hole because you maximize your damage efficiency! i am better than you because i'm NOT an elitist world of warcrack a-hole, and because i'm too lazy/stupid to maximize my damage efficiency, and i'm gonna insult you to feel better about myself!

this thread in a nutshell.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Translation: If you are either (1) easily annoyed or (2) lazy, Sundering is a valid preference.

If you want to maximize your damage, Vampiric is the clear choice. /thread

Close due to pointlessness ftw?

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Weren't those people camping in Heroes' Ascent trash talking everyone who isn't in their elite little gathering? Don't tell me they migrated to PvE...
Shut up Kai. Just because you're so ignorant of facts doesn't mean people are elitist.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
I repeat, it's a matter of preference. It's a matter of which is better. Sure, you may prefer Sundering over Vampiric, but that doesn't mean it's better.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Weren't those people camping in Heroes' Ascent trash talking everyone who isn't in their elite little gathering? Don't tell me they migrated to PvE... I always thought Elitists were the close-minded and arrogant people that bash everyone without reason or explanation and base everything off of their personal preference, claiming their way is the only way.... wait a minute... am I explaining a certain someone who uses "preference" and calls people names when he doesn't know them? Err... dude... you can call me an elitist, but you clearly act like one! Keep thinking sundering is better than vampiric and I will keep laughing at your half-hearted keyboard flexing... pcthug.

Go back to Diablo and point-and-click your way to glory. Leave PvP opinions to smarter ppl.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earth
Shut up Kai. Just because you're so ignorant of facts doesn't mean people are elitist.

It's a matter of which is better. Sure, you may prefer Sundering over Vampiric, but that doesn't mean it's better.
So we're not friends anymore? Fine, I see how it is. Looks like a couple months in seperate guilds is really that hard on you, eh?

Quote: Originally Posted by moriz noob: suchandsuch is better because i believe it is!
JR: statistics show that thisotherthing is better than suchandsuch.
noob: you are an elitist world of warcrack a-hole because you maximize your damage efficiency! i am better than you because i'm NOT an elitist world of warcrack a-hole, and because i'm too lazy/stupid to maximize my damage efficiency, and i'm gonna insult you to feel better about myself!

this thread in a nutshell. Who's doing the insulting, hmm?

Quote: There's no reason to just toss old friends and guildies aside because you quit. You've pretty much announced to the world that you're a fairweathered friend.

I wasn't calling them world of Warcrack elitists. I was pointing out how much they were behaving like WoW elitists.


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Originally Posted by The Way Out
I always thought Elitists were the close-minded and arrogant people that bash everyone without reason or explanation and base everything off of their personal preference, claiming their way is the only way.... wait a minute... am I explaining a certain someone who uses "preference" and calls people names when he doesn't know them? Err... dude... you can call me an elitist, but you clearly act like one! Keep thinking sundering is better than vampiric and I will keep laughing at your half-hearted keyboard flexing... pcthug.

Go back to Diablo and point-and-click your way to glory. Leave PvP opinions to smarter ppl. You want to bring insults into this?

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

Use 33% bleed. Spread the bleeding around!

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
So we're not friends anymore? Fine, I see how it is. Looks like a couple months in seperate guilds is really that hard on you, eh? I couldn't care less because I've basically quit playing GW, except from the one or 2 odd times when I manage to stay on for 5 minutes before my computer crashes <_<


Fact is, Vampiric is better. You're trying to go around every point people make by saying they are World of Warcrack elitists?

Sounds like you're just being ignorant :\

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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Taurucis is using Whirling Defense!
Taurucis is using Bonneti's Defense!
Taurucis is using Gladiator's Defense!
Taurucis is using Auspicious Riposte (or whatever that's called)!
Taurucis is using Escape!
Taurucis is using Natural Stride!
Taurucis is using Lightning Reflexes!
Taurucis is using Dryder's Defense!

EVERYONE RUN!!!! HIS STANCES ARE UUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earth
I couldn't care less because I've basically quit playing GW, except from the one or 2 odd times when I manage to stay on for 5 minutes before my computer crashes <_<


Fact is, Vampiric is better. You're trying to go around every point people make by saying they are World of Warcrack elitists?

Sounds like you're just being ignorant :\
EVERYONE RUN!!!! HIS STANCES ARE UUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Her.* And a number of those skills I don't even have...

Auspicious Parry, by the way.

Wakka

Wakka

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Northern Ireland

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I love cry fests.

Earth your cat makes me smile

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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So another sundering vs vamp thread, with some edrama from ex-guildies. Thanks for the lulz, but I'm going to close this now.