Game Update: 1/23/08

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Could someone explain how SBS was over powered? I mean, Spirit's Strength Rit's aren't the rage, are they? >_>
You you play this game?

W/Rt, D/Rt, R/Rt. Enchanting weapon + SBS = no blind for 14 secs with 1 sec downtime? Yeh, um...NO.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Yes but not in PvP, thanks for the explanation.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Yes but not in PvP, thanks for the explanation.
Well, that does explain it. No problem. Oh, and Spirit's Strength ownz.

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

IWAY gone = less free fame

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
IWAY gone = less free fame
It was "gone" after the uncapped IAS, OoV and EoE nerfs too. It'll be back. You could drop a nuke and the only thing that would survive would be cockroaches playing IWAY.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
It was "gone" after the uncapped IAS, OoV and EoE nerfs too. It'll be back. You could drop a nuke and the only thing that would survive would be cockroaches playing IWAY.
Lol. QFT. It will be back.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

I wanna see IWAY nerfed now, as a shout. Only on party members.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Could someone explain how SBS was over powered? I mean, Spirit's Strength Rit's aren't the rage, are they? >_>
i think sight beyond sight was nerfed cuz rawr got owned by it in the at and izzy coincidentally saw the skill and was like OMGWTFBBQ NERFBATZ. didnt see it used that much outside of the match but thats jsut me.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk
i think sight beyond sight was nerfed cuz rawr got owned by it in the at and izzy coincidentally saw the skill and was like OMGWTFBBQ NERFBATZ. didnt see it used that much outside of the match but thats jsut me.
Did not see rawr playing. If they had any strategy that relied heavily on blindness, it was doomed for sure.

Without enchantment mod it was 12/15 seconds, with it was 14/15. This makes Blinder Elementalists useless.

Plus it is a ritualist secondary, great for DP signet or Flesh of my Flesh, Rits have great rez spells.


Given that, we can wonder why he actually buffed it before.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
You could drop a nuke and the only thing that would survive would be cockroaches playing IWAY.
You made my "favorite people" list with this one. Apologies that there's no award, but you can wear the title with pride (in your head anyway).

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

I saw Andrew say in another thread "give a list of skills you think still need looking at and i will forward them to izzy". One of those skills got looked at. Again, GJ on balancing.

Why don't they just give up altogether?

ManMadeGod

ManMadeGod

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fear me:
About time.
GG
lol

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Some other thought about FEAR ME.
OK, it could be spammend and caused problems, something had to be done.

But do you think the skill is still viable now? I fear it got totally destroyed.

Adding a recharge of 4 seconds to GFTE and WY hurt both skills. Recharge is a serious limiter for adrenaline based skills, and Izzy seems to have learnt to love it. But "Fear Me" got a 6 second recharge. 6 seconds without adrenaline gain for the skill, after that you still need to charge it up. Which is not really a problem with FGJ.

Is 6 seconds not a bit too much? Would 4 not be sufficient?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
6 seconds without adrenaline gain for the skill, after that you still need to charge it up.
I personally don't mind the recharge too much (it just prevents spamming of the skill), but I agree that adrenaline should allowed to be charged during the recharge period, so the skill is available the second the recharge period is over.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
6 seconds without adrenaline gain for the skill, after that you still need to charge it up. Which is not really a problem with FGJ.
Its recharge matches that of Steady Stance, which instapowers it anyway. It essentially is ready right after the recharge ends.

Does anyone really dislike that a skill only useful in gimmicks was nerfed? :/

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

Sight beyond sight nerf was totally unneeded they made it a usefull (not overpowered) skill then 3 days later killed it?? WTF? It was fun to run a derv for 3 days without having to use Melandru though.

R A N D O M

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

cause we are crazy (cwc)

E/

pious assault is scary now...i use it on my ranger with expertise

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by R A N D O M
pious assault is scary now...i use it on my ranger with expertise
That IS scary.