I already killed the justicar and rand with h/h in my ranger character (and trust me, they did very poorly there even when I flagged them and i did the pulling). Selve, I haven't tried yet, but I was in a group for the forgeman, full human party. I was doing my job as a barrager and setting up spirits like frozen soil and winter when my party ditched me!! An ele tank blamed me saying i should have stayed back. I was letting that guy do his job, pulling the foes and having the foes attk the tank and I was attking the foes (the foes suppose to always focus on the tank). Apparently, that was the part when the party ditched me. And since H/H don't spread out when attacking (ANet did a good job making them the dumbest AI in the world), and no one was trying to pick me up for the forgeman (spend 15 minutes on finding a group and no one picked me up), I have no choice but to give up on slaver exile.
Have you ever faced a situation your entire party (or at least half of them) ditched you)? Then faced more torture when the no one picks you up for 15+ minutes even though you are fit for the job?
possibly the worst experience in GW, party ditching and complete rejecti on me
Dark Paladin X
YunSooJin
Ever think that maybe you're the one at fault? not the party?
oh wait no wai...
oh wait no wai...
Zeek Aran
Something obviously went wrong. Either you didn't notice it or you won't admit it.
Cale Roughstar
Ummm, prepare you flame retardant suit?
But yes, sometimes you make a mistake when you are new to something and nobody wants to tell you HOW to do it, they just leave. Try new things with friends and guildies before you pug things would be my best advice.
But yes, sometimes you make a mistake when you are new to something and nobody wants to tell you HOW to do it, they just leave. Try new things with friends and guildies before you pug things would be my best advice.
Bryant Again
lol yeup. First time in a pug at Ice Caves of Sorrow I lead the whole team through the catapult and they all died.
Why did I do that? Because I didn't know that I had to go pull the levers and got stuck up there, and I did it every other time before with henchies, never had a problem.
Why did I do that? Because I didn't know that I had to go pull the levers and got stuck up there, and I did it every other time before with henchies, never had a problem.
garethporlest18
All I can say is, Welcome to the world of Jerkwars. This game is baed like that.
Except Korean Ryan up there he's hot.
Except Korean Ryan up there he's hot.
aapo
What is the point of this topic? So you met rude person/people and you're posting about it here as if it was news?
Antheus
A PUG that sucked?
Surely, you jest.
No.
No.
Surely, you jest.
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vixro
Slavers? Hard?
Ursan blessing and the 3 necros makes everything easy. Screw them, you don't need them. Get the 3 necros, run ursan, and bring the 2 rangers and 2 monk hench. Essence of celerity and it's game over, don't even need frozen soil.
Ursan blessing and the 3 necros makes everything easy. Screw them, you don't need them. Get the 3 necros, run ursan, and bring the 2 rangers and 2 monk hench. Essence of celerity and it's game over, don't even need frozen soil.
Fern Burntfist
id suggest you ask your guild if they want to help you. I did it with a full guildteam and we cleared Duncan on HM sooo many times now..
Killed u man
It's a game... You'll get over your E-feelings...
Everyone has been blamed for somethin they did/did not do, but gues what, the next day, you won't even remember, and if you do, you need professional help...
Everyone has been blamed for somethin they did/did not do, but gues what, the next day, you won't even remember, and if you do, you need professional help...
roshanabey2
everyone gets ditched once i a while...........
maraxusofk
try going to ha or pug gvg. this happens ALOT. if u cant handle ppl being lil babies and whining about u, NEVER get into pvp. it takes many a nights worth of flaming before one gets good enuff to toss the flames back.
4thVariety
Among people who are doing some high level missions over and over (Mallyx, Duncan) it is not unheard of that they kick players because some party member had a negative experience with them. These parties usually talk VERY much in the chat or have teamspeak. Generally you are fine if you can explain why you modified your build in a certain way. Quite some of these players make lists of people they played with, if they left and whether they can be trusted. Which is normal, considering the time invested in Half-Run Pugs and Full-Run Pugs. Time is spend by preparing properly before the run and then execute it properly. At no time is the speedy choice the one that is made, but in the end, that will pay off.
Other players imitate that behavior by kicking anyone who does not behave in a certain way, even though their rules are totally arbitrary and counter-productive. These players do not talk much before the mission, they do not have teamspeak, you will never be able to get a chance to justify your build-mutation and everybody seems to be under constant time pressure. Those groups would never make it anyway, so you can consider it a blessing being kicked from them. gogogogo
Other players imitate that behavior by kicking anyone who does not behave in a certain way, even though their rules are totally arbitrary and counter-productive. These players do not talk much before the mission, they do not have teamspeak, you will never be able to get a chance to justify your build-mutation and everybody seems to be under constant time pressure. Those groups would never make it anyway, so you can consider it a blessing being kicked from them. gogogogo
Skyy High
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Spoken like someone that has no ability to create a worthwhile build on his own, gg.
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enmitee
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Spoken like someone that has no ability to create a worthwhile build on his own, gg.
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ursan ftw tho
Dronte
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try going to ha or pug gvg. this happens ALOT. if u cant handle ppl being lil babies and whining about u, NEVER get into pvp. it takes many a nights worth of flaming before one gets good enuff to toss the flames back.
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Back to topic, ever thought that you actually made a mistake?
Squishy ftw
Are you sure you didn't mess up somewhere?
If you're sure you didn't, consider it their loss and move on
No.
Never. If I can't get in a PuG in 15min I grab hero/hench..
If you're sure you didn't, consider it their loss and move on
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Never. If I can't get in a PuG in 15min I grab hero/hench..
Mark Nevermiss
Even if you were the best player out there and knew all Slaver's Exile dungeons like the back of your hand, to think that waiting 15 minutes is long is ..well, laughable. I have been in groups that waited for like 2 hours to get one person.
When I cannot get into a certain group at a certain time I normally switch to another char and do something else, unless I know I can hero/hench it.
I doubt YOU will be able to H/H Forge or Selve, so I think your best bet is to try to figure out what could have gone wrong and try to fix it.
Also something I find worth mentioning .. unless you are doing SE for the dungeon book, its no BIG loss to pass on it. Unless you get EXTREMELY lucky and get one of the few rare highly coveted items, the time spent at SE could be more profitably spent elsewhere.
My opinion.
When I cannot get into a certain group at a certain time I normally switch to another char and do something else, unless I know I can hero/hench it.
I doubt YOU will be able to H/H Forge or Selve, so I think your best bet is to try to figure out what could have gone wrong and try to fix it.
Also something I find worth mentioning .. unless you are doing SE for the dungeon book, its no BIG loss to pass on it. Unless you get EXTREMELY lucky and get one of the few rare highly coveted items, the time spent at SE could be more profitably spent elsewhere.
My opinion.
Darkobra
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Oukanna
Being ditched is a part of gaming, anywhere id say :-(
You just got to get over it and move on.
I have started doing HA, and wow you need patience for that, it can take me up to 40mins to get a team and even then they are never good because i am only rank 1 and people who are of higher rank dont want to take me because they think i cant play! I hate that ignorance but if i want to get anywhere i got to be patient and let it pass.
I can understand why, if people do the same thing over and over to farm, and they pick up someone who hasnt done it like they have, it slows them down and frustrates them, just as they frustrate you, they dont want to waste time, so they leave to get a better group.
Yes it may be rude, but thats how it goes, your best bet is to practice or go with friends.
You just got to get over it and move on.
I have started doing HA, and wow you need patience for that, it can take me up to 40mins to get a team and even then they are never good because i am only rank 1 and people who are of higher rank dont want to take me because they think i cant play! I hate that ignorance but if i want to get anywhere i got to be patient and let it pass.
I can understand why, if people do the same thing over and over to farm, and they pick up someone who hasnt done it like they have, it slows them down and frustrates them, just as they frustrate you, they dont want to waste time, so they leave to get a better group.
Yes it may be rude, but thats how it goes, your best bet is to practice or go with friends.
FeroxC
I remember back in the good ole days of FoW farming, a whammo in our group had a shard drop and died strait after. We purposely didn't res and eventually took his shard then carried on with the mission leaving him dead.
Danax
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I remember back in the good ole days of FoW farming, a whammo in our group had a shard drop and died strait after. We purposely didn't res and eventually took his shard then carried on with the mission leaving him dead.
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Kusandaa
I had something happening to me in a similar way - playing monk for a 444 run when I had no idea I had to res the necro through the portal. Asking questions to see if I had to take any skill, if my bar could be modded and if I had to do anything specific... never got a reply. Never found the info on the net either. In one of those groups I joined, I went in my room straight away and I bet more than half of the party left even though I asked if I had any specific role to play (which doesn't take 20 minutes to explain that you gotta res the necro through the portal).
Yes I didn't know, but I did make the effort of asking and trying to find the information which was, at the time, unavailable. Therefore, when I do something wrong, I'd like to know it... because sometimes I don't/can't even realize it.
Oh BTW I've waited 1.5 to 2 hours for people for Urgoz, and I bet people have waited even longer. So 15 minutes is nothing.
Yes I didn't know, but I did make the effort of asking and trying to find the information which was, at the time, unavailable. Therefore, when I do something wrong, I'd like to know it... because sometimes I don't/can't even realize it.
Oh BTW I've waited 1.5 to 2 hours for people for Urgoz, and I bet people have waited even longer. So 15 minutes is nothing.
angmar_nite
Just saying...... Isn't the Obby tank the puller? In all my groups he is.
Mark Nevermiss
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Just saying...... Isn't the Obby tank the puller? In all my groups he is.
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angmar_nite
Wait misread. NVM. Did you have a flatbow or longbow to stay outside aggro? Otherwise yeah, it's just the group being a dick.
Dark Paladin X
i actually did use a longbow, the problem is that I notice my entire didn't went out and help the tank and the tank rage leave. I doubt heroes and hench work there, as heroes have hard time syngerying their skills.
Whisper Evenstar
Listen, I'm not trying to be elitist, but I H/H all of the dungeons in Slavers, including Duncan right after I finished EOTN some months ago. It is doable - you just have to set up your team properly and know how to pull and prioritize targets (I never flagged all heros individually). Now, a good PUG will breeze through much faster and can be a lot more fun, but we all know how common good PUGs are....
I suggest you spend some time learning how to do it yourself - you will probably learn a lot in the process of figuring out what works and what doesn't. And that will pay off in everything you do in the game
I suggest you spend some time learning how to do it yourself - you will probably learn a lot in the process of figuring out what works and what doesn't. And that will pay off in everything you do in the game
MithranArkanere
Never.
If someone don't want me in their party, it's because they are either bad players or because they only use cookie cutter builds and kick anyone that do not join with the build they want ready.
If someone wants me to use a certain build I don't know, they have to give me the template. If they don't, they should let me use the build I think it would be better based upon other party members builds and the enemies we are going to face. Something not everyone understands...
I have all skills but some Paragon, Assasin and Dervish ones with my main character, so I can set even the weirdest builds.
With my monk, I'm specially touchy. I'm not the one kicked, I'm the one that /sit and watch people die if they do not play properly or make me mad.
For example, once I joined a PUG in Raisu Palace as WoH healer, I asked if someone was bringig enchantmenr removal, and warned the protector and the warrior about the sliver armor.
What they did? The one with the enchant removal focused on the Shiro'ken monks, to remove the Spell Breaker. ANYONE that knows the Shiro'ken builds knows that they are not healers, they are protectors, and not a very good ones, they only use the Spell Breaker on themselves. They are not a threat. Nor something to kill first. The warrior focused in the Elementalists with sliver armor, and the protector was healing the Necromancer instead of buffing the tank to reduce damage.
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When the warrior died after using again and again wis tripple and wirlwind axe skills against 3 Shio'ken elementalists, while the elementalsit was using various multi-hit spells at the same time, he blamed me of letting him die.
Indignant, I just ignored the criticisms, and then I /sit and went to my kitchen to pick something to drink. When I was back, they were still fighting, and they didn't even noticed I was not healing anymore. Of course, I just left after that.
I never met a worse pug in my entire life, and never had to quit like that again, and, geez, I hope never get into a pug like that again.
If someone don't want me in their party, it's because they are either bad players or because they only use cookie cutter builds and kick anyone that do not join with the build they want ready.
If someone wants me to use a certain build I don't know, they have to give me the template. If they don't, they should let me use the build I think it would be better based upon other party members builds and the enemies we are going to face. Something not everyone understands...
I have all skills but some Paragon, Assasin and Dervish ones with my main character, so I can set even the weirdest builds.
With my monk, I'm specially touchy. I'm not the one kicked, I'm the one that /sit and watch people die if they do not play properly or make me mad.
For example, once I joined a PUG in Raisu Palace as WoH healer, I asked if someone was bringig enchantmenr removal, and warned the protector and the warrior about the sliver armor.
What they did? The one with the enchant removal focused on the Shiro'ken monks, to remove the Spell Breaker. ANYONE that knows the Shiro'ken builds knows that they are not healers, they are protectors, and not a very good ones, they only use the Spell Breaker on themselves. They are not a threat. Nor something to kill first. The warrior focused in the Elementalists with sliver armor, and the protector was healing the Necromancer instead of buffing the tank to reduce damage.
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When the warrior died after using again and again wis tripple and wirlwind axe skills against 3 Shio'ken elementalists, while the elementalsit was using various multi-hit spells at the same time, he blamed me of letting him die.
Indignant, I just ignored the criticisms, and then I /sit and went to my kitchen to pick something to drink. When I was back, they were still fighting, and they didn't even noticed I was not healing anymore. Of course, I just left after that.
I never met a worse pug in my entire life, and never had to quit like that again, and, geez, I hope never get into a pug like that again.
IlikeGW
Maybe you made a mistake or maybe you didn't. The game community can be filled with idiots who may well have screwed it up themselves and blamed other people, knowingly or not.
Move on anyway, it happens, the internet is anonymous and full of rudeness, including team kicks with little explanation or chance to defend yourself.
Move on anyway, it happens, the internet is anonymous and full of rudeness, including team kicks with little explanation or chance to defend yourself.
Kattar
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PL: Hey mesmer, ping your bar.
*Pings bar*
PL kicks.
Welcome to Guild Wars.
Darkobra
Well, Raisu palace brings the worst of the worst. It's Faction's version of THK. Then again, quite recently, I saw a monk in beginner's armour, only healing prayers, (if you're going to rush in with beginner's armour, have the decency to go Protection prayers) and a pet with a res skill for it. Sparks of the Titans one hit killed her repeatedly. God knows why she had two superior runes and no vigors to counter that, either.
sterbenx2
two sup runes and starter armor? omg. How in the hell would someone even GET to RP with that?! Impossible I say! lol but the only kick I've ever had that actually pissed me off was a team that kicked me for not running a particular cookie cutter they wanted without even asking me if I could change. Which, I would have just to shut the wanks up. The build ping crap ALSO killed Pugs.. most people blame heroes. I think it was everything at once.
With the way GW is played, PuGs will always suck. The only way to make PuGs viable is to dumb down the game to a point where you can do anything with empty skillbars. And judging by what I see in most random players builds, they should be running with just that, an empty bar. (and a rez) =P
With the way GW is played, PuGs will always suck. The only way to make PuGs viable is to dumb down the game to a point where you can do anything with empty skillbars. And judging by what I see in most random players builds, they should be running with just that, an empty bar. (and a rez) =P
pygar
I havent had experience quite as bad as the OP's, but then again it's because I had experiences similar the couple times I tried to join PUGs and quickly decided it was Heroes and Henchies FTW.
You can't fire me cuz I quit
You can't fire me cuz I quit
lakatz
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And you don't think wasting... errr waiting two hours for something so unproductive as playing through in a game is laughable?
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Olim Chill
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Sparks of the Titans one hit killed her repeatedly. God knows why she had two superior runes and no vigors to counter that, either.
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two sup runes and starter armor? omg. How in the hell would someone even GET to RP with that?!
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Chthon
OP, my guess is that you started firing before the tank had the monsters rounded up and snared and that caused a broken aggro, which pissed everyone off. It could be that you broke the aggro, or it could be that the tank pulled wrong and it was going to break anyway. If you try again, the best thing you can do is make damn sure not to attack until the tank calls grasping earth/ward against foes -- that way you can be sure you're not the one causing any aggro breaks that happen.
truemyths
yes there's a lack of helpful and friendly people. See the responses on this thread as proof.