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Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

03 Jan 2006 at 19:44 - 1

I understand most people on Guru are from the US, I myself am from Europe, and we have several servers like English district 1-15, spanish, french, and probably more.
I dont play GW hardcore, I just play with my gf and usualy in team arena we get into a team of two other french or spanish, which leads to misunderstanding and losing of course. As example I was in a team with french who spoke french only and when I kindly asked him to speak english he said "no".
While being able to switch from one server to another is a nice idea, merging servers from different nations is something I really dislike.
How is it on US servers? Do you guys get to play with players from central and south america as well?
Maybe I'm just gonna buy US import

dimirpaw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada/Alberta/Edmonton

03 Jan 2006 at 19:51 - 2

Well I don't mean to be rude, telling people to speak english is just plain nasty to them. Thats like some guy saying you gota start speaking Korean right now because I said so. I happen to like being with diffrent nations on the same server, if it really bothers you that much you can always e-mail ANET/NCSoft

With the server says America that doesn't mean the USA, people get those too mixed up a lot. America is like North and South America.

Like in North America it's Canada and the United States of America, Greenland or whatever else.

I have only played with English and Korean people so far on GW, however I enjoy playing with people from other nations, even if I cannot speak to them.

I'm not sure if it's the same for Europe, but in the America version you can access internation servers, so if your main one is Europe then go into international and pick America.

Lost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hell's Precipice

03 Jan 2006 at 19:57 - 3

There are a lot of language problems on the America server as well. There are many different languages. You have English (which is a minority), then you have LEET, SPAMGLISH, NOOBISH, OMGWTFHAXXOR, a special psychic language only W/Mos can see, PWNZORS, and URMOM-LISH. It's no walk in the park.

dr_james2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Guild of Kings

Me/E

03 Jan 2006 at 20:37 - 4

on the euro servers if you didn't already know the disctricts are set out so there are several for english speakers, several for german, several for spanish, etc. It annoys me when people are in the english one speaking another language but then again I'm sure there will be people in the spanish ones talking english.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

03 Jan 2006 at 20:42 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

There are a lot of language problems on the America server as well. There are many different languages. You have English (which is a minority), then you have LEET, SPAMGLISH, NOOBISH, OMGWTFHAXXOR, a special psychic language only W/Mos can see, PWNZORS, and URMOM-LISH. It's no walk in the park.

lol...saving this somewhere...bash here i come

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

03 Jan 2006 at 20:50 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

There are a lot of language problems on the America server as well. There are many different languages. You have English (which is a minority), then you have LEET, SPAMGLISH, NOOBISH, OMGWTFHAXXOR, a special psychic language only W/Mos can see, PWNZORS, and URMOM-LISH. It's no walk in the park.

LMAO...Only because it's SO true.

Stormfall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Soviet Canuckistan

Makil Astalder [MAR]

04 Jan 2006 at 00:09 - 7

My favourite ever was "Como estas?", which immediately prompted "How come I always see frenchies on the American server?"

Hot Dead

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

04 Jan 2006 at 00:29 - 8

The American Server is more or less a speak whatever language you want server. But in my experiences on the European Server, its more or less limited to English,French, and German...I was in the European English District 1 a while back, and some people out of nowhere started speaking French, of course I joined their convo...being a polyglot may help you in GW. If someone says something not nice as in a racist comment in another language (other than English) and you understand what they said you could report them or join in and be a racist bastard.
Now, this was said before, but I think that the American Server includes both the Central/South American countries and the North American Countries.

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

04 Jan 2006 at 00:30 - 9

"A special psychic language that only Wa/Mos can see."--- That has to be the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum.

And then I realized how true it was. I spent my first six months in GW as a warrior and now that I have some other chars I find myself shaking my head in utter disbelief at some of the stuff that they do....

And blame me and others for their own mistake.

Stormfall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Soviet Canuckistan

Makil Astalder [MAR]

04 Jan 2006 at 00:35 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Dead

Now, this was said before, but I think that the American Server includes both the Central/South American countries and the North American Countries.

Yep, "American" more accurately refers to the Americas rather than solely the United States of. That doesn't stop all the "Ohmegad it's amurrka speak english!!!11", of course, which is always good for a laugh anyway. One thing I noticed when I picked up the game a week after the full release was the huge volume of Spanish and Portugese speaking players, relative to Anglophones. It might have just been a fluke, but for a couple of weeks encountering another English-speaking player was rare for me.

Turbo Wombat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Centeral Texas

Heros of Titans Realm

Me/

04 Jan 2006 at 01:18 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara

If you plan to join the American server I will give you one peice of important advice... the local chat... turn it off and never put it back on.

Excelent advice. Since the cumulative IQ of whatever group I'm in typically doesn't seem to add up to even my shoe size, I've stopped using chat almost completely. The only times I typically end up speaking now is to either call a condition/hex/cast/target or to call BS on someone I see trying to run a scam. I must say, though, that my favorite quote to date has been:

"OMG! ur on a american server!!1! TALK AMERIKCAN!!!1!!1"

If you don't get it, re-read it a few times until it sinks in...

EDIT: Please don't tell me I'm the only one who finds the stupidity of this quote absolutely halarious

Hyunsai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

A/Me

04 Jan 2006 at 01:26 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_james2k

on the euro servers if you didn't already know the disctricts are set out so there are several for english speakers, several for german, several for spanish, etc. It annoys me when people are in the english one speaking another language but then again I'm sure there will be people in the spanish ones talking english.

In Arenas, you can meet people from all europe countries, not only yours. I was in english servers, and when I changed to french server, I saw the same person in some teams...

Shukrut

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Army Of Lightness [AoL]

W/Me

04 Jan 2006 at 01:31 - 13

I don't mind people speaking another language than english on a dedicated server as long as they don't spam the local chat... And by the way Anarki, not all french people are arrogant and I guess you can apply that to spanish people as well.

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

04 Jan 2006 at 01:43 - 14

There is a big difference in TELLING someone to speak a certain language and ASKING them to. For example english and bad english is all I can speak. If I got stuck with a group (and it has happened) where they were speaking some other language. I would probably ask as well if they spoke english and could speak it. There is nothing rude about that at all. Now having said that. The only time I see another language is when I am playing in an international server with my European friends. On rare occasion I have seen fench on the american channels... and some rude person did tell them to speak english because this was an american server. The person was an obvious tool who had no idea that not all americans are english.

I will also agree... local chat sucks. Now if your into the immature vulgar stuff then feel free to leave it on.

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

04 Jan 2006 at 02:02 - 15

The only arrogant person in this story is the one that assumes their own language should be spoken by others.

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

04 Jan 2006 at 02:21 - 16

Just to stick my neck out here ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarki

As example I was in a team with french who spoke french only and when I kindly asked him to speak english he said "no".

I do believe the OP said he kindly asked them to speak english, to which they said no. This is completely different than telling someone to speak it.

I tend to agree with the OP, while not leaning too far in the direction of "this is America, speak American!"

I don't mind at all if people speak other languages, except when (like another poster mentioned) it's spamming local chat. Well, hell, lets be honest: there are people that speak English that spam local chat with stupid stuff, but I tell those idiots to stop as much as the ones that aren't speaking english ... (I always wonder if they're talking bad about me, though ... I saw my IGN in someone's spanish the other day ...

)

Coming way back roundabout to the OP's question: it's nice on American servers, and I would say there are proportionally more people speaking English on the American servers than on the Euro's ... but like others have said: be prepared for alot of leet-speak and gibberish, and keep local chat off most of the time

Malchior Devenholm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dragon Arena!!!

Pshycho Ninjas [oGod] | Vent Rage [vR] | Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

04 Jan 2006 at 02:26 - 17

Agreed Lexar, I've played with a variety of French guys in the American server...They didn't know what the heck i was saying and i them but we still fought well and beat our mission.

True American Server is mostly for americans so ppl can all understand one language (cept for LEET, OFGWTFHAXXOR, and the like) but it aint illegal for a french, korean, german, dutch...to enter the American Servers cuz they wanna try somethign new.

Things might be more difficult since they don't understand our language and us theirs, but if its what they want then thats fine-they have the right

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

04 Jan 2006 at 02:28 - 18

Well lets not forget not everyone on the american severs is American.

I am Canadain for one. French speakers in Quebec and other parts of Canada are the reason some people on the American servers speak french. Some Amercians can't catch this.

Me: So can I join the guild?

American: Well you have to live in western america

Me: I live in western Canada is that ok?

American: YOU HAVE TO B IN AMERICA SO WERE IN DA SAME TIME ZONES!!!111

Me: Dude Canada is north of America

American:.....

Me: I think I'll find another guild

nohooiam

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Forsaken Sanctuary

Mo/Me

04 Jan 2006 at 02:38 - 19

america = iway
europe = less/no iway

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

04 Jan 2006 at 02:53 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Well lets not forget not everyone on the american severs is American.

I am Canadain for one. French speakers in Quebec and other parts of Canada are the reason some people on the American servers speak french. Some Amercians can't catch this.

Me: So can I join the guild?

American: Well you have to live in western america

Me: I live in western Canada is that ok?

American: YOU HAVE TO B IN AMERICA SO WERE IN DA SAME TIME ZONES!!!111

Me: Dude Canada is north of America

American:.....

Me: I think I'll find another guild

I'm canadian as well so I'm well aware of there being french speaking americans/canadians.

Now I'm still canadian but I live in Alaska... its a part of the states but 4 hours behind where I lived in Canada. This puts me 4 hours behind most americans I play with lol. Good thing the guild I am in doesn't care about timezones... I don't think there is an alaskian guild.

Pardoz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

04 Jan 2006 at 03:03 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara

If you plan to join the American server (lets not forget Canada uses it as well)

Actually, most of the Canucks I know who play GW have joined me as expats on the Euro servers. It's easy for us, since most Canadians are bilingual(*).

Quote:

I will give you one peice of important advice... the local chat... turn it off and never put it back on.

Quoted for truth. If you're playing with PUGs, consider turning team chat off too.
[*]That is to say most of us understand both English and American.

Plix

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/

04 Jan 2006 at 03:05 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pardoz

Actually, most of the Canucks I know who play GW have joined[*]That is to say most of us understand both English and American.

Hahaha XD.

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

04 Jan 2006 at 03:20 - 23

wow ok im american, i almost never see any other languages other then english (or american w/e u want to call it) i do see people speaking in leet and such but never seen alot of other languages. as to the turn off local chat comment. only if u are in main towns such as LA and Droks! those are the absolutle worse. beacons perch is bad as well as everyone wants a run to droks. most places arent to bad but there are alot of insults flying around if u screw up once. really id just stick to the Euro server as ya IWAY is everyehwere. i have never once got to HoH w/o seeing atelast 3 IWAY groups. i hate IWAY, its stupid and annoying. id just stick to EUro Servers if i were u.

Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

04 Jan 2006 at 03:39 - 24

Well, I noted that I kindly asked that person to speak english.
Besides, I'm from Sweden and people here speak swedish, I try to talk english to everyone unless I know that only swedish people are in my party.
English is international language, speaking it to unknown people on internet is polite, talking your own language assuming that everyone knows it is rude in my opinion.

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

04 Jan 2006 at 05:07 - 25

Almost everyone I've played with speaks english. I have played with a few people from Mexico (I assume so since it was in one of their IG name) that spoke Spanish, but they had a friend with them that translated to English for the rest of the team.

Mortiis Keltenheim

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Miami, FL

Anybody Killaz

W/N

04 Jan 2006 at 05:23 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarki

I myself am from Europe, and we have several servers like English district 1-15, spanish, french, and probably more.

I dont understand why this does not exist in the American servers. Since ArenaNet created those language specific districts knowing so many languages are spoken in Europe, why didn't they do the same for the American servers (for Canadians who speak French, and Latinos who speak Spanish, etc.)?

I have a Spaniard and a few Mexicans in my guild. The Mexicans are located in the American server of course, and it would be nice if they could meet with other people who speak Spanish and talk in the local chat without having some dips*** telling them to speak English or "americkan" all the time. EVERY time someone has spoken Spanish in the local chat, something like that happens. It might be called "American Server", but at the rate things are going, Spanish is going to be the official language of the US......

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

04 Jan 2006 at 05:51 - 27

mmm , easy bro , acount setings , change territory - american .. everyone skeaps english .. but then ... there are ass holes of corse , its america.
i changed to american for 2 big reasons , a lot more people playing , and better conection , i live in south china. im not chinese , im european.

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

04 Jan 2006 at 07:12 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

There are a lot of language problems on the America server as well. There are many different languages. You have English (which is a minority), then you have LEET, SPAMGLISH, NOOBISH, OMGWTFHAXXOR, a special psychic language only W/Mos can see, PWNZORS, and URMOM-LISH. It's no walk in the park.

I want to frame this.

Shukrut

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Army Of Lightness [AoL]

W/Me

04 Jan 2006 at 08:10 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoteo

mmm , easy bro , acount setings , change territory - american .. everyone skeaps english .. but then ... there are ass holes of corse , its america.
i changed to american for 2 big reasons , a lot more people playing , and better conection , i live in south china. im not chinese , im european.

Same here, I live in Macau as well and am European. Playin on US server cuz I don't know anyone IRL who plays it besides me so...

Neoteo, as I remember I contacted you before to ask about your guild... Well, even we don't put up a guild we could try to play together sometimes.

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

04 Jan 2006 at 10:19 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

There are a lot of language problems on the America server as well. There are many different languages. You have English (which is a minority), then you have LEET, SPAMGLISH, NOOBISH, OMGWTFHAXXOR, a special psychic language only W/Mos can see, PWNZORS, and URMOM-LISH. It's no walk in the park.

Been quoted a lot, but hey? What's one more? It's true. Especially that wammo language. I saw a pair of them that seemed to also speek NOOBLISH (funny that they only spoke after I insulted them :P)

dr_james2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Guild of Kings

Me/E

04 Jan 2006 at 10:20 - 31

I sometimes go onto the Spanish servers when there are few people in the english ones but when I'm there I speak spanish, as well as I can at least.

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

04 Jan 2006 at 10:26 - 32

Ok, to answer the original question...
I'm European (Belgium) and play on the US Server.
I tried the European server, but prefer the US server. There are not as many people playing on European server and since the districts are divided into language groups (English, French and Spanish i think) it reduces the amount of people even more. That leads to less possibilities to sell/buy too and finding a PUG.

To react to that accusation of racism.. My question is: Do you get into these groups with Spanish and French people who dont speak English in the English districts? If so, I understand it's very annoying for communcation and maybe even "arrogant" of them to refuse to speak English. However, you cannot say that it's arrogant if YOU are the one playing in French districts.. and expect the others to speak English.
If in English district, speak English.
If in French district, speak French.

AND yes, you will see Chinese, Spanish and sometimes French (very rarely though) on the American Server too, but not in a PUG! Everyone speaks English here to improve communication.

Btw in my guild it's like 33.3% Europeans, 33.3% Americans and 33.3% Asians. Perfect combo, and we all speak English

Plus I know a few Swedish here

So I would say, give the US server a try, if you dont like it, you can always go back to the European server afterwards (you can change 5 times total).

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

04 Jan 2006 at 10:49 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daena

Ok, to answer the original question...

If in English district, speak English.
If in French district, speak French.
.

The issue is, when you play in Arenas, all countries are mixed together for the random teams, regardless of the district you currently are. So you can fall upon a really good mix of different languages.
If the majority of your team speak a language, you follow or not, but don't ask them to speak another language. The statement "Everybody in the world speak English or like speaking English coz it's "international language"" is wrong. And you CAN play with foreigners without speaking english, if you start to chat when in battle instead of following what's happening on your screen anyway, there are great odds you loose.

Zobi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Europe

FR

04 Jan 2006 at 10:56 - 34

On the European servers, we have districts for English, French, German, Spanish and Italian.

If you play in random arenas, you could be in a team with anybody from any of these servers.

In Europe, there are one hell of a lot more than 5 languages, so it is extremely common to see Dutch, Danish, Finnish, Croatian, Rumanian, Hungarian etc. etc. on the English servers. Not everybody speaks English fluently, and many people from France and Germany etc. play on English servers early in morning/late at night, because their own servers are empty.

I think it is great to have so many cultures participating in the game, but I do feel sorry for those people who have their own language, yet not their own server.

Please remember that not everyone is bilingual or a polyglot, and that English is NOT the only language in the world.

/Peace.

coolsti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

04 Jan 2006 at 11:01 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by glountz

The issue is, when you play in Arenas, all countries are mixed together for the random teams, regardless of the district you currently are. So you can fall upon a really good mix of different languages.
If the majority of your team speak a language, you follow or not, but don't ask them to speak another language. The statement "Everybody in the world speak English or like speaking English coz it's "international language"" is wrong. And you CAN play with foreigners without speaking english, if you start to chat when in battle instead of following what's happening on your screen anyway, there are great odds you loose.

Hmmm, yes and no, there are two sides of the coin. Rude it is to state that someone should speak english instead of their mother tongue. But if what is being said has to do with the tactics and strategy of the team, then it only makes sense to all stick to the "common" language of the group. Perhaps the french players couldn't speak english well enough, which means that there was no common language. But in most instances, english IS the common language of Europe. I know, I have lived and worked in Germany and am now living in Denmark, but I come from neither of these countries. Like it or not, English is the most common language when several nationalities are trying to communicate with each other.

Even if the conversation was not really intended for the fighting strategy of the group, I find it extremely irritating to be playing in a group in the European English districts when two or more party members are talking to each other in a language I don't understand. Why? Because a lot of my GW enjoyment is the human interaction that occurs between party members. And if I don't understand what is being said, then there is no possibility for interaction from my part. Playing with people that insist on talking in a party in a language I don't understand is to me worse than playing with a few party members who never say anything at all. In both situations I would make a mental note to try to not party with these people again in the future. Why? Boring!

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

04 Jan 2006 at 11:15 - 36

Ok I didnt know all districts were mixed together and now I see the problem more clearly. This can be a real issue indeed, but like Coolsti says, English IS the language most Europeans speak or learn as their second language! And I understand that it can be really irritating when others start to discuss strategy in a language other than English. I also understand that not everyone speaks English.. So it's a dilemma for which I dont see a solution yet!

All I can say is, on American server I have never had this problem before.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

04 Jan 2006 at 11:17 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolsti

Even if the conversation was not really intended for the fighting strategy of the group, I find it extremely irritating to be playing in a group in the European English districts when two or more party members are talking to each other in a language I don't understand. Why? Because a lot of my GW enjoyment is the human interaction that occurs between party members. And if I don't understand what is being said, then there is no possibility for interaction from my part. Playing with people that insist on talking in a party in a language I don't understand is to me worse than playing with a few party members who never say anything at all. In both situations I would make a mental note to try to not party with these people again in the future. Why? Boring!

Totally agreed. I rather have people try to talk really really bad English than being shut out completely. And it does happen all of the time, so often that I've given up on the competition arenas altogether and that was the only PvP I cared about in the first place.

Dave83

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

SeS

Me/Mo

04 Jan 2006 at 11:29 - 38

Sorry if this has been mentioned already i havent read all of the post because im um..lazy. You dont need to buy the US import version. You just set your region to US in options. Its in edit account after you log in and there you go; you're american

I personally think it is sorta rude not to speak the language of the server but it does'nt really annoy me or anything (just giving my opinion).

Zobi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Europe

FR

04 Jan 2006 at 11:45 - 39

Just as a side note, Viruzz, I see people speak Danish, Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish on English Servers all the time. I have no problem at all with this, as there are no Scandanavian servers.

I fail to see how you can get angry at French/Spanish people who play on their own servers religiously, but are not always grouped with speakers of their mother tongues in Arenas.

Not everyone speaks a second language; not everyone's second language is English. It is my experience that people from Britain are less likely to speak a second language than from anywhere else in Western Europe.

I am fortunate, French is my first language, but I started learning English at three years old; not everybody has this advantage.

Please try to be a little more considerate of other cultures.

/Peace

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

04 Jan 2006 at 15:04 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daena

...., but like Coolsti says, English IS the language most Europeans speak or learn as their second language! And I understand that it can be really irritating when others start to discuss strategy in a language other than English. I also understand that not everyone speaks English.. So it's a dilemma for which I dont see a solution yet!

All I can say is, on American server I have never had this problem before.

You're mistaken here, German is actually the language most europeans speak or learn, in Holland we learn English, German and French, disadvantage of being a small country, but almost all the eastern european countries have German as a second language they get taught in school.

As you aren't on the european server u can't check, but believe me there are usually more german districts then english ones in any big town, during wintersday La-english went up to 34, german all the way to 43

However ppl do flock to the english ones in the early morning and late evening, it's a sort of meeting place when you can't find ppl to do that difficult missions.