Character Locked = Undeletable. Then... what would you do? [Pics included]
kazjun
I'd use it. I'd be ticked if I got hacked and lost all my stuff. But I'd be severely POed if my main got deleted. My HoM is the most valuable thing to me right now. If I lose items, I can get them again if I really wanted them, just as I can farm for more money. But the HoM is a ton of time and money, and if I lost that I'd probably walk away from GW1 and GW2 forever.
shru
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Originally Posted by EmptySkull
Seems silly to lock a PvP character, not that anyone suggested it.
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pumpkin pie
I think this idea is good, and also voted for arena net to give us extra security measures for free.
I also think this idea and this one here should be combine into one.
that becomes this one: a second set of password for deleting characters and doing transaction with another player.
I also think this idea and this one here should be combine into one.
that becomes this one: a second set of password for deleting characters and doing transaction with another player.
ilipol
/signed
Do you have an actual reason against this?
...or is it simply "If this is implemented I won't be able to delete other people's chars when I hack their accounts?"
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Originally Posted by TheLichMonky
/not signed..
Just keep your account safe -_- |
...or is it simply "If this is implemented I won't be able to delete other people's chars when I hack their accounts?"
Abonai Laguna
That is awesome^^ good idea.
I think you should be possible to put an extra password on one of your characters, like your main. that would be when someone hacks your account, they cant access your main, which probably has the best stuff
I think you should be possible to put an extra password on one of your characters, like your main. that would be when someone hacks your account, they cant access your main, which probably has the best stuff
pamelf
definitely /signed, but there is no way we should be expected to pay for our account security, which lets face it PlayNC makes pretty breachable all in all...
Xunlai Master
/signed, i would lock my 3 main chars permanently asap.
personally i wouldnt mind if chars over 2 years old or r5+ koabd gets perminately locked automatically. cos u got plenty of time to erase your chars n worst case u can always buy more char slots. but im sure any of u would be furious to max if some1 erased ur main chars.. lol
its probably easier just to have another option next to “Play”, “Create”, “Delete” called “Lock” to permanently lock the char.
personally i wouldnt mind if chars over 2 years old or r5+ koabd gets perminately locked automatically. cos u got plenty of time to erase your chars n worst case u can always buy more char slots. but im sure any of u would be furious to max if some1 erased ur main chars.. lol
its probably easier just to have another option next to “Play”, “Create”, “Delete” called “Lock” to permanently lock the char.
EmptySkull
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Originally Posted by shru
PvP characters have per character unlocks with rep points, making them just as valueable as any PvE character time spent wise. I'd be crushed if my perma PvP monk got deleted and all her unlocks were lost with her.
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So yeah If you have taken the time to unlock weapons and armor on a PvP character then definitely you want a deletion-lock on that too.
Mewcatus
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Guys,
Sorry, but if you think about it, this poll isn't going to be useful. Saying "I want to pay" or "I want it free" isn't a reasonable set of options.  The only meaningful poll is "I would pay for this service" or "I would not pay for this service." Since I have already told you that the programming team is not available to add this feature, the only point of discussion I have with the team is "They would like this, and they are willing to pay." As I've said before, the cost of programming and implementation (which takes members of several teams) and the cost of support is prohibitive. The business team would have to consider a lot of factors (such as what it would cost to develop, how many would be likely to use it, those saying they'd pay, and then deciding not to do so), and even then it may simply be impossible to add this feature no matter how many were potentially able and willing to pay a fee for the service. |
Best to lock the thread, as no matter what was said, probably nothing is gonna happen.
Xun Rama
6 months? Good god...
Set it to 24 hours and call it a day. If someone tries to delete your characters you can log back in the next day and undelete them. That way, it's reasonable if you actually decide you want to delete something. As the suggestion stands it's ridiculous. Decide you want to delete your character? Wait 6 months. Who knows if you'll even be playing in 6 months? Jeez...
Personally, I don't think either is needed (and Anet representatives agree). But if one were done, then 24 hours would be much better than the other suggested times.
Set it to 24 hours and call it a day. If someone tries to delete your characters you can log back in the next day and undelete them. That way, it's reasonable if you actually decide you want to delete something. As the suggestion stands it's ridiculous. Decide you want to delete your character? Wait 6 months. Who knows if you'll even be playing in 6 months? Jeez...
Personally, I don't think either is needed (and Anet representatives agree). But if one were done, then 24 hours would be much better than the other suggested times.
ightgg
/signed
would much prefer perma lock since if your account gets stolen they can just wait it out. but at that point it really wont matter anymore. i would enver delete me Rit if i did i would quit guildwars so it wouldnt matter anyways. lets go anet
-Rit <3
would much prefer perma lock since if your account gets stolen they can just wait it out. but at that point it really wont matter anymore. i would enver delete me Rit if i did i would quit guildwars so it wouldnt matter anyways. lets go anet
-Rit <3
DragonRogue
/Signed
With the rash of hacked accounts on the rise, some have not just had items and gold stolen, but have had characters deleted as well. This is a great feature to add so at least titles wouldnt be lost as well. Its either this or attaching a PW per character before deletion is allowed. Then you could just make a different PW per character different from the main account.
With the rash of hacked accounts on the rise, some have not just had items and gold stolen, but have had characters deleted as well. This is a great feature to add so at least titles wouldnt be lost as well. Its either this or attaching a PW per character before deletion is allowed. Then you could just make a different PW per character different from the main account.
morgan
I recently tried out Runes of Magic and they have a second password for character creation/deletion (if my memory serves me right)
they also have an onscreen keybord to "click" your password to logon to help lessen the issue of keyloggers.
surely ANet can add something like this
they also have an onscreen keybord to "click" your password to logon to help lessen the issue of keyloggers.
surely ANet can add something like this
Mangione
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Originally Posted by Xun Rama
6 months? Good god...
Set it to 24 hours and call it a day. If someone tries to delete your characters you can log back in the next day and undelete them. That way, it's reasonable if you actually decide you want to delete something. As the suggestion stands it's ridiculous. Decide you want to delete your character? Wait 6 months. Who knows if you'll even be playing in 6 months? Jeez... Personally, I don't think either is needed (and Anet representatives agree). But if one were done, then 24 hours would be much better than the other suggested times. |
In the last two months I've been able to play once a week.
Setting the lock to 24 hours would be ridiculous to me. I can't login each day.
If someone tried to delete my char, I wouldn't be able to revert that back in 24 hours.
And in last autumn I had no chance to play for more than a month.
Even in this case 24 hours would be ridiculous.
Don't assume that people have nothing to do in life so that they play every single day. Family, work, and a lot of others things prevent me and many others from being online each single day. As you can see, people have different needs.
I hope ArenaNet puts something like this in GW2.
In Lineage 2 (or it was some other game, I don't remember) each character is locked, and when you want to delete any char you have to wait 7 days, no matter what.
Sierraa
While I think it's a good idea, I think the time frame is way too long (Lots of people have said this), and I'd prefer if people just were smarter about their passwords and changed them often.
If something like this was to be implamented I'd rather have like a 2nd password on the characters to be able to delete it instead of a "Time locK" for the people who don't play for months.
/notsigned
If something like this was to be implamented I'd rather have like a 2nd password on the characters to be able to delete it instead of a "Time locK" for the people who don't play for months.
/notsigned
Dr.Jones
i think this is an epic idea and should be implemented though i think that you should have a way to unlock it as well via a septet password and if you decide to unlock and right after ask to delete a flag should be raised by anet and the delete should go though for like 2-3 weeks and it should send a e-mail to you saying that some one is trying to delete one of your toons. also it should check the ip address of who is trying to unlock and delete and see if it is a ip that is in the area that the normal user uses and if it isnt anet should kick that person from the account and change the password.
maxxfury
/signed
and maybe a *password* to log into your storage box
(or even your seperate characters if your really worried about security)
and maybe a *password* to log into your storage box
Undead King Knight
I think you should have it where you lock it. Then if you want to unlock you enter in a different password from your account. That way you can protect all your characters and delete them anytime!
draxynnic
I missed this discussion the first time, but...
I'd use it, if it was available. I'm pretty sure my account is safe, but even with the highest degree of internet-savvy, there's still always that chance, however miniscule, of something going wrong without it being either the user's fault or the company's. An added, optional layer of protection would certainly be a valuable source of peace of mind.
Losing stuff would be annoying, but I'd much rather be building back up from established if naked characters than all the way from the beginning. And charity of friends would likely mean that you would be building up from the equivalent of Drok's armour and collector/preorder gear rather than with nothing. One can give a fellow player charity to get them back in the game after losing items, but you can't give them their character back. Like some people have already said - If I found my characters deleted at this stage, I'm not sure I'd bother coming back.
I can certainly see that there are higher priorities, but I don't see any reason to discard the idea outright when it could be placed in the 'something to look at if there is ever time to do so' pile.
I'd use it, if it was available. I'm pretty sure my account is safe, but even with the highest degree of internet-savvy, there's still always that chance, however miniscule, of something going wrong without it being either the user's fault or the company's. An added, optional layer of protection would certainly be a valuable source of peace of mind.
Losing stuff would be annoying, but I'd much rather be building back up from established if naked characters than all the way from the beginning. And charity of friends would likely mean that you would be building up from the equivalent of Drok's armour and collector/preorder gear rather than with nothing. One can give a fellow player charity to get them back in the game after losing items, but you can't give them their character back. Like some people have already said - If I found my characters deleted at this stage, I'm not sure I'd bother coming back.
I can certainly see that there are higher priorities, but I don't see any reason to discard the idea outright when it could be placed in the 'something to look at if there is ever time to do so' pile.
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Antheus
The con is that you will get a surprising amount of people that will lock all their characters for 5 year period.
On the next day, they'll be writing support tickets saying: "I know I had to confirm it twice, and I know I chose 5 years and I know it asked me if I'm really sure, and I know I had to confirm it via e-mail, and I know it then asked me again, and I know I had to re-confirm it, but I didn't really mean it. Can you unlock all of them?" Protecting people from themselves is a lost cause You cannot delete a character accidentally. It asks you for character name. And as for argument about "hackers". Again - you cannot protect people from themselves. It's not "evil hackers on teh interwebs" that are the problem. They would just go in, and sell items. Those that hijack accounts for botting and similar don't care about deleting the characters. So you don't solve anything. And soon, people would demand that items in-game can get locked, so that they can't be deleted. |
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Originally Posted by Dronte
It should be in Sardelac.
edit: ops too late Btw, I've never had a problem with character deleting, if you dont want to delete it, just dont do it ^^. But probably would help for a few ppl. |
However just don't do anything that could get your account info stolen and this isnt needed.
Also what Gaile gray wrote like a YEAR ago. Hacking is not something that happens alot and it is not server side it is the USERS doing stupid things to get there account stolen. I've been playing this since it came out and have never had an issue, I also don't visit sites that would compromise my computer.
This imo just isn't needed so /notsigned.
zelgadissan
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Originally Posted by draxynnic
Losing stuff would be annoying, but I'd much rather be building back up from established if naked characters than all the way from the beginning. And charity of friends would likely mean that you would be building up from the equivalent of Drok's armour and collector/preorder gear rather than with nothing. One can give a fellow player charity to get them back in the game after losing items, but you can't give them their character back. Like some people have already said - If I found my characters deleted at this stage, I'm not sure I'd bother coming back.
I can certainly see that there are higher priorities, but I don't see any reason to discard the idea outright when it could be placed in the 'something to look at if there is ever time to do so' pile. |
I don't really particularly care if hacking is relatively a small-scale thing; I and many others would certainly be willing to pay real money in the store simply to ensure our characters will always be around. If my mesmer got deleted - which would take his entire Hall of Monuments/GW2 links with it - I would no longer have reason to wait around until 2011 for GW2, meaning I'd probably be gone for good.
I might have looked on this topic differently months ago, but the recent rash of hacks that hit close to home have made me willing to spend money. Seriously Anet - I will pay money for this.
Sjeng
/SIGNED!
I'd even be willing to pay for it, as long as it's a ONE-TIME payment for your entire account (say like €2,50 tops)
I'd lock all my characters PERMANENTLY. If I ever needed a new character, I'd buy another slot. But I don't
I really want the option to get "peace of mind" about the safety of my characters.
I'd even be willing to pay for it, as long as it's a ONE-TIME payment for your entire account (say like €2,50 tops)
I'd lock all my characters PERMANENTLY. If I ever needed a new character, I'd buy another slot. But I don't
I really want the option to get "peace of mind" about the safety of my characters.
Tullzinski
dag Xun way to dig up a topic. If you go through this entire thread Gaile shot this down so many times it is a swiss cheese looking dead and decayed corpse.
The Little Viking
I would use it. Ive seen to many times here on guru alone where someone logs on only to find their charicters gone. Let alone all their stuff. (weekend of 2/21/09 ring any bells?)
Yes I would defiantly use it, and I think more then 90% of my guild would as well.
Yes I would defiantly use it, and I think more then 90% of my guild would as well.
Mangione
How can we change this thread into a GW2 suggestion?
Loki Seiguro
nice idea...free though please
Spike Stritter
/signed.
sorry if this has been mentioned:
In your con section you talked about a person gettign ur info and locking all your characters.
What could also happen is a person goes onto your account and creates characters and locks those so u have brand new characters u dont want for 6 months.
my suggestion is that a character can be locked only after 10 days of being created to avoid this.
sorry if this has been mentioned:
In your con section you talked about a person gettign ur info and locking all your characters.
What could also happen is a person goes onto your account and creates characters and locks those so u have brand new characters u dont want for 6 months.
my suggestion is that a character can be locked only after 10 days of being created to avoid this.
kazjun
Wow, this thread is old. But /signed all the same.
Nowadays, all that matters to me is my HoM. Take all my gear and steal all my plat, don't really care. I can make it back fairly easy. Having to go through the title grind again? I'd probably never play GW again first. My main's hall is full and ready for GW2, and I'd happily lock my main for eternity if I could. Or lock his HoM anyway.
As for locking all my other slots by someone else, easier to get a new slot, or to just play with the characters you have, then to lose a 3+ yr old char.
Nowadays, all that matters to me is my HoM. Take all my gear and steal all my plat, don't really care. I can make it back fairly easy. Having to go through the title grind again? I'd probably never play GW again first. My main's hall is full and ready for GW2, and I'd happily lock my main for eternity if I could. Or lock his HoM anyway.
As for locking all my other slots by someone else, easier to get a new slot, or to just play with the characters you have, then to lose a 3+ yr old char.
Day Trooper
/Signed!
No-brainer idea is no brainer.
Seriously ANet - step up to the plate and implement this already!!
No-brainer idea is no brainer.
Seriously ANet - step up to the plate and implement this already!!
draxynnic
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Originally Posted by Tullzinski
dag Xun way to dig up a topic. If you go through this entire thread Gaile shot this down so many times it is a swiss cheese looking dead and decayed corpse.
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It's worth keeping the topic raised. As I said earlier in the thread, it doesn't need to be the top priority, but if it's in the priority list somewhere it may eventually happen... or be put into GW2.
Tullzinski
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Originally Posted by draxynnic
Gaile isn't the community rep any more, and although I can't remember specifics, I think some of the things Linsey has done or talked about planning to do have been things that Gaile shot down in the past.
It's worth keeping the topic raised. As I said earlier in the thread, it doesn't need to be the top priority, but if it's in the priority list somewhere it may eventually happen... or be put into GW2. |
Since I have already told you that the programming team is not available to add this feature, the only point of discussion I have with the team is "They would like this, and they are willing to pay." As I've said before, the cost of programming and implementation (which takes members of several teams) and the cost of support is prohibitive. The business team would have to consider a lot of factors (such as what it would cost to develop, how many would be likely to use it, those saying they'd pay, and then deciding not to do so), and even then it may simply be impossible to add this feature no matter how many were potentially able and willing to pay a fee for the service.
GW2 suggestion sure great idea, but that is not what this thread is about.
Kattar
Whether the idea has been shot down or not is not an issue. Sardelac is a place for posting ideas/wants for this game. People want this feature, which is why there's a thread here that's remained open.
(This means stop talking about whether or not it matters if this idea was shot down.)
(This means stop talking about whether or not it matters if this idea was shot down.)
Tullzinski
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Originally Posted by Katsumi
Whether the idea has been shot down or not is not an issue. Sardelac is a place for posting ideas/wants for this game. People want this feature, which is why there's a thread here that's remained open.
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Basically you are telling me that I am not allowed to have an opinion on the subject that is based on the history of the topic/thread. The fact that it was shot down is important and the reasons why even more so. Which makes this an excellent suggestion for GW2 since it is still in development, I think this would be one of those items that fall squarely in the category of something ANET did wrong with GW and can fixed by putting it in GW2(hopefully for free). The programming team is available and actively working on GW2 and the programming and implementation is ongoing and would not cost much more to inlcude at this point in the development. The only problem would be the support costs, but in the end this may be a straw dog if they made it irreversable with no option to reverse it. Pay for another slot and do not permantly lock it.
Considering the size of the live team working on GW1 it is most likey a pipe dream for GW1.
At least I did not ask for the thread to be locked as others did.
Kattar
No, ding dong, I didn't mean it like that. :P
Often, threads in Sardelac will degenerate into "IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN" arguments, which are against the guidelines for this forum. I'm just trying to keep this thread away from that.
Considering the current state of the Live team, there are almost no ideas in the forum that will be implemented. But still, we post since we want them to know what we want and how we feel. Just trying to reinforce that idea a little more.
And if you take offense at me calling you a ding dong...
Often, threads in Sardelac will degenerate into "IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN" arguments, which are against the guidelines for this forum. I'm just trying to keep this thread away from that.
Considering the current state of the Live team, there are almost no ideas in the forum that will be implemented. But still, we post since we want them to know what we want and how we feel. Just trying to reinforce that idea a little more.
And if you take offense at me calling you a ding dong...
Tullzinski
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Originally Posted by Katsumi
No, ding dong, I didn't mean it like that. :P
Often, threads in Sardelac will degenerate into "IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN" arguments, which are against the guidelines for this forum. I'm just trying to keep this thread away from that. Considering the current state of the Live team, there are almost no ideas in the forum that will be implemented. But still, we post since we want them to know what we want and how we feel. Just trying to reinforce that idea a little more. And if you take offense at me calling you a ding dong... |
Ohhh my bust I see where you are coming from.
You can call me a Ding Dong only if I can call you Ho-Ho. Man now I am hungry! Off to the snack machine!Ummm zingers!!!
Lyynyyrd
Do not want. Spend the time making the game less shit. Stop downloading viruses and giving your passwords out and your account will be safe.
Ty.
Ty.
REDdelver
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Its still a good idea and there certainly nothing wrong with pushing for it. Thats what forums are for.
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Problem is you cant distinguish the difference between having an opinion about this topic and telling people to stop talking about it. Its HYPOTCRITICAL to tell people to stop talking about this subject(thus they cant have their opinions) and yet you cry thinking someone is telling you arent allowed to express yours.
Seems easy to me. Im not telling you to stop reading the thread. You have the right to not read the thread if you dont want to see this subject continued.
Soulfire Cleopatra
/signed Taking more safety measures is better than riskier ones.
Anon-e-mouse
/signed
If only for those people who do share accounts, in my old guild there was a member who shared an account with his younger brother. In those circumstances the protection of a lock is far better than keeping two eyes on whether your younger brother is about to delete your smelly guild hall dood with the purty armour. And yes I would lock a good number of my toons
If only for those people who do share accounts, in my old guild there was a member who shared an account with his younger brother. In those circumstances the protection of a lock is far better than keeping two eyes on whether your younger brother is about to delete your smelly guild hall dood with the purty armour. And yes I would lock a good number of my toons
Raccoon
Character locking would be a good idea however I doubt we would be required to pay for it as it would in no way infringe on the servers.
However when your account gets hacked, the people come on, salvage your armor, strip your storage and leave. It would be better to lock a character as well as whatever armor and weapons they have on them at that time.
However when your account gets hacked, the people come on, salvage your armor, strip your storage and leave. It would be better to lock a character as well as whatever armor and weapons they have on them at that time.