whisper blocking system is /fail

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

for about a week now i have been getting whispers from a gold selling site. i have never bought gold from this site or any other site. every time i log on i get a whisper, and about every 10-15 minutes after that till i quit playing. my ignore list is full of this gold sellers names now, and i am left to do absolutely nothing. every time i delete a name to add a new one, another name or one of the previous one just continues the spam. i can't (and shouldn't have to) go to DND or offline.

question. when you ignore someone does it ignore just that name or the whole account? i think it should ignore the whole account

we should definitely get a bigger ignore list imo. not just for what is happening to me, but because there is a huge group of retards/asshats out there.


anyone have any ideas as to how to make this stop?

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

It's not the the whisper blocking system is malfunctioning, it's that the likely reason is the gold seller has a large handful of accounts.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

I have been pm'ed 30+ times and its always been different accounts. These gold sellers just have ridiculous ammounts of trials (probably..).

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

It's getting out of hand. All I have to say about it...

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Hmm perhaps an automated script to get the trial key from guildwars.com. == a lot of keys. Ip ban I'd say. (Then there are still proxy's )

Qwertyfied

Qwertyfied

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ireland

DVDF

E/

Happens to me a number of times per day, occasionally when they pm multiple times, i just stick them on ignore for a while. If my ignore list gets full, take one of them off, since they will (hopefully) have being banned by then. I dare say this works on the bot just pressing the tab key, and proceeding to pm everyone in the district. I may be wrong of course.

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

i am in kamadan d1 most of the day, either buying or selling something (so no offline/DND). its the same site, and i highly doubt they are not in kamadan d1 because i cant report them(which is /fail also)

Zonzai

Zonzai

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolen Souls
It's getting out of hand. All I have to say about it...
You can say that again. Temple districts are nuts.

erk

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

A nice feature would be to be able to switch off all whispers unless they are either from the Guild/Alliance you are in, or on your friends list.

Also when I untick local chat why can I still see the chat text above the spammers character? Surely that's a bug.

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by erk
Also when I untick local chat why can I still see the chat text above the spammers character? Surely that's a bug.
no, you can always see the text above anyones head in team/local chat

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

This PMing bot thing is relatively new, and it's GOT TO STOP.

Wake up, Anet.

erk

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by flclisgreat
no, you can always see the text above anyones head in team/local chat
That's a bug. If you opt out of local chat because someone is rude, harassing, or spamming, you should not be able to see it!

Uber Mass

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

mostly temple of balthazar its indeed very annoying i report them every time i get there lol

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolen Souls
It's getting out of hand. All I have to say about it...
Agreed. There have been about 10 threads on this and suggestions to stop gold spammers and improve report in the last week. That is a huge upswing. I sure hope A.net is paying attention. There is definately something up.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

To those that don't get spammed...stay out of bath temple!!

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by erk
That's a bug. If you opt out of local chat because someone is rude, harassing, or spamming, you should not be able to see it!
That's not a bug, it's been that way since 05 at least. It only shows chat in the chat bubbles, not in the chat log. It shouldn't be too hard to turn the camera so you can't see the chat bubble of the person being rude to you.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
To those that don't get spammed...stay out of bath temple!!
Yep, I've been there around 4 times in the last 6 months and no spam! They probably get the name of people standing there.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by erk
That's a bug. If you opt out of local chat because someone is rude, harassing, or spamming, you should not be able to see it!
Not true. You can turn off local chat but still see random bits.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Yep, I've been there around 4 times in the last 6 months and no spam! They probably get the name of people standing there.
I've been PMed the second I get into the temple at times.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

It's been happening to me a lot lately in Lions Arch. (American districts)
Not exactly game crippling, but it's pretty darn annoying. Hopefully they can get do something about this..

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

it ignores the whole account when you put someone on ignore , and yes the bot spamming is anoyying , i always report them tough

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Not true, I've reported people for verbal abuse after they've zoned out.

/report NAME it works, you don't have to have them selected. Try it.


/staysoutofbalthtemple

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

I'm sure ANet is working on it. And I'm sure it's not as easy as adding a line that says "block bots from whispering" somewhere.

erk

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGmaniac
That's not a bug, it's been that way since 05 at least. It only shows chat in the chat bubbles, not in the chat log. It shouldn't be too hard to turn the camera so you can't see the chat bubble of the person being rude to you.
Just because it's it been there for years doesn't mean it's not a bug. The program code for the chat box/log is probably quite separate from the code that drives the talk balloons and they might just have forgotten to address both bits of code from the option. The alternative is that it was a creative decision from A.net to keep the balloons enabled for the small chance that someone is trying to attract your attention, but I can't see the point in that with a whisper system in place.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by xiaotsu
/report NAME it works, you don't have to have them selected. Try it.
I have tried it and it doesn't work if they're not in your district. Maybe you got their name typed while they were in your district but you sent the ticket after they zoned or something.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGmaniac
I've been PMed the second I get into the temple at times.
Same, and Kamadan for me.
More ignore list slots please?

erk

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Same, and Kamadan for me.
More ignore list slots please?

/agree

10 is just not enough nowadays.

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

Those gibberish-named bots that PM you are trial accounts. They're free. Anet banning them doesn't help. The bot is a program larger than GW. It creates those gibberish names with a random gibberish name generator program. The program expects to be deleted and then reincarnate with a new name in about ten seconds.

And yes, WHOA this is getting to be a common occurrence.

There are solutions ie banning whispers/local/trade chat on trial accounts. Or limiting them somehow.

dread pirate fargus

dread pirate fargus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

in bed

X Peace And Love X [PaL]

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im not sure how they do it, but through some form of clever scripting you will now most likely get whisped the absolute instant you map to temple of balth. it happens in presearing too, and its allways from the same company.

guess when it first got really bad? thats right, the same day they took down the barriers between korean and US / euro districts. i had never once had it before then

i tried trading with one of the characters in an experiment and i was right, they use trial accounts. the only way i can see to stop this is to completely remove all 'buddy keys' and introduce a referal system where you can refer a friend via guildwars.com and they get a buddy key via email. if you refer accounts which consistently get /reported for spamming or botting, then your account gets banned too. they wont risk real accounts for spamming when they could be running farming bots instead.

edit* just read cebalrais response above mine. another possible solution would indeed be removing the ability to whisp, or possibly one of those catpcha (sp?) things you get when signing up on certain web sites to block automated registrations?

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006



- I just can't believe the stupidity of ANET sometimes. What good is all their efforts to investigate and ban accounts for botting and spamming when they're giving unlimited access to expendable free accounts on their own site?

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

i ve got the same issue too>_> so many random gold seller PMs, can Anet do something about it?

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by dread pirate fargus
guess when it first got really bad? thats right, the same day they took down the barriers between korean and US / euro districts. i had never once had it before then
Fargus is correct. This problem coincides with the Korean district barriers coming down.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I've also made a thread about goldspammers. Anet, do something!

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

We are very sorry about this, and I sent a comprehensive email today to other team members proposing various changes to try to put a stop to this problem. It is growing, and we're aware of it, and we'll do what we can to make it cease.

P.S. Count the bot population reduced by nearly 60, as of this post. *dusts hands*

Im Using The Force

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Primal Fire

N/

" Sorry " doesnt begin to describe it.

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

i want to see Gaile/any A.Net employee in GToB id1 for more than 5 minutes. then we will see how many account get banned/changes made.

if they don't want to spend money/recourses on the banning, ill do it for free, just give me the power.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Im Using The Force
" Sorry " doesnt begin to describe it.
They owe you nothing. So don't be an arsehat, though I can see in aapo's post, the explanation for why this is happening. Glad I finally found out why; Besides as soon as that trial is up or whatever, then it'll all go away.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by flclisgreat
i want to see Gaile/any A.Net employee in GToB id1 for more than 5 minutes. then we will see how many account get banned/changes made.

if they don't want to spend money/recourses on the banning, ill do it for free, just give me the power.
Read my edit -- I think your wish has been fulfilled.

And yes, aapo, I understand what you're saying, hence my long email about the situation with trial accounts just today. I do think we'll see improvements in how we offer them, or how they function, in the future.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo
I just can't believe the stupidity of ANET sometimes. What good is all their efforts to investigate and ban accounts for botting and spamming when they're giving unlimited access to expendable free accounts on their own site?
I'm willing to have a couple bots PM me a day just so ANet can get some more publicity. It's a small price to pay in making the game more successful.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'm willing to have a couple bots PM me a day just so ANet can get some more publicity. It's a small price to pay in making the game more successful.
That's really understanding of you, Bryant Again. I was sort of thinking something along those lines, because heaven's knows, bots are irritating, and gold sellling ads are irksome, but they hardly prevent me from playing, or keep me from going about my business.

It's good of you to be tolerant, and yes, the promotions and the trials -- because of the accounts they encourage people to buy -- do help us sustain the business and fund both Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2. That said, we'll do a better job with them in the future, I'm sure. (Thanks again for your reasonable thinking.)