axe sword or hammer?
mr. heroic
do you prefer an axe a sword or a hammer?
which one?
and why?
which one?
and why?
greenreaper3
axe...
because i think my murakis reaver looks better than a sephis sword on my 15k black kurzick...
because i think my murakis reaver looks better than a sephis sword on my 15k black kurzick...
ax mastery
Hammer! cuz 9 sec kd lock owns.
Coloneh
axe. because triple chop owns PvE and axe spike owns PvP.
Yichi
All of the above depending on what I need.
Squishy ftw
pve: sword -> godmode
pvp: axe -> eviscerate
pvp: axe -> eviscerate
Crom The Pale
I often prefer sword over Axe and rarely use hammers.
Mainly though its all dependant on what build I feel like using at the time.
Mainly though its all dependant on what build I feel like using at the time.
JDRyder
i did some testing and heres what came out
axe and sword have the same avg DPS with out skills, hammer has higher avg DPS with out skills than axe and sword
sword and axe 18~21 DPS
Hammer 25~30 DPS
I tested 3 bars of 4 skills per bar, you will find the skills on most bars of the attribute type
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]furious axe[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill]
[skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill]
I used all of them with a icy 15^50 mod, on the same target and ran the bars 5 times to make sure i didnt get a lucky crit. also used 8 strength and 12 in w/e attribute i was using.
The sword got 35~45 DPS
The hammer got 50~55 DPS
and the axe got 40~60 DPS
the best hit i got from the axe was 93 damage, the best with the hammer was 112 and the best with the sword was 102 "only if the target was under 50%HP on the last attack if not only 65"
so hammer has more DPS over all DPS but axe takes the win on spike damage.
I like both Axe and hammer my self cause of the type of war i run
If you are going to run a defensive war you may like sword better cause of skills like riposte, I think defensive wars are 100% useless to a group, blocking skills dont stop caster damage and thats what you need to "tank" most the time.
I like to run a offensive war. Most the time i use a hammer, knock downs can help the group a lot more then a lot of blocking skills. Knock downs slow down DPS on both casters and melee so it works on both types damage, Knock downs can also help the group kill things faster, like keeping a monk knocked down as your team rapes his friends.
heres some bars i use as a hammer war
[skill]earth shaker[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]hammer bash[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
As for Axe the bar i run most the time is a shock axe
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]bull's strike[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]shock[/skill]
axe and sword have the same avg DPS with out skills, hammer has higher avg DPS with out skills than axe and sword
sword and axe 18~21 DPS
Hammer 25~30 DPS
I tested 3 bars of 4 skills per bar, you will find the skills on most bars of the attribute type
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]furious axe[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill]
[skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill]
I used all of them with a icy 15^50 mod, on the same target and ran the bars 5 times to make sure i didnt get a lucky crit. also used 8 strength and 12 in w/e attribute i was using.
The sword got 35~45 DPS
The hammer got 50~55 DPS
and the axe got 40~60 DPS
the best hit i got from the axe was 93 damage, the best with the hammer was 112 and the best with the sword was 102 "only if the target was under 50%HP on the last attack if not only 65"
so hammer has more DPS over all DPS but axe takes the win on spike damage.
I like both Axe and hammer my self cause of the type of war i run
If you are going to run a defensive war you may like sword better cause of skills like riposte, I think defensive wars are 100% useless to a group, blocking skills dont stop caster damage and thats what you need to "tank" most the time.
I like to run a offensive war. Most the time i use a hammer, knock downs can help the group a lot more then a lot of blocking skills. Knock downs slow down DPS on both casters and melee so it works on both types damage, Knock downs can also help the group kill things faster, like keeping a monk knocked down as your team rapes his friends.
heres some bars i use as a hammer war
[skill]earth shaker[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]hammer bash[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill][skill]counter blow[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
As for Axe the bar i run most the time is a shock axe
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]bull's strike[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]shock[/skill]
DreamRunner
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDRyder
i did some testing and heres what came out
axe and sword have the same avg DPS with out skills, hammer has higher avg DPS with out skills than axe and sword
sword and axe 18~21 DPS
Hammer 25~30 DPS
I tested 3 bars of 4 skills per bar, you will find the skills on most bars of the attribute type
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]furious axe[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]irresistible blow[/skill]
[skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill]
I used all of them with a icy 15^50 mod, on the same target and ran the bars 5 times to make sure i didnt get a lucky crit. also used 8 strength and 12 in w/e attribute i was using.
The sword got 35~45 DPS
The hammer got 45~50 DPS
and the axe got 40~60 DPS Sword build is full of fail since you got dragonslash and final thrust. Hammer Wars have KD, why you have irresistible blow also is odd for a derv hammer combo. Just saying you can't compare DPS with skills, since different weaponry have different outcomes.
Sword, hammer or axe have different out comes and different uses. Choosing sword, hammer or axe should depend on what build you are running as a team. eg. crip slash war + SA sin or shock axe and back breaker hammer.
axe and sword have the same avg DPS with out skills, hammer has higher avg DPS with out skills than axe and sword
sword and axe 18~21 DPS
Hammer 25~30 DPS
I tested 3 bars of 4 skills per bar, you will find the skills on most bars of the attribute type
[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]agonizing chop[/skill][skill]furious axe[/skill]
[skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]irresistible blow[/skill]
[skill]dragon slash[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]final thrust[/skill]
I used all of them with a icy 15^50 mod, on the same target and ran the bars 5 times to make sure i didnt get a lucky crit. also used 8 strength and 12 in w/e attribute i was using.
The sword got 35~45 DPS
The hammer got 45~50 DPS
and the axe got 40~60 DPS Sword build is full of fail since you got dragonslash and final thrust. Hammer Wars have KD, why you have irresistible blow also is odd for a derv hammer combo. Just saying you can't compare DPS with skills, since different weaponry have different outcomes.
Sword, hammer or axe have different out comes and different uses. Choosing sword, hammer or axe should depend on what build you are running as a team. eg. crip slash war + SA sin or shock axe and back breaker hammer.
JDRyder
Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
Sword build is full of fail since you got dragonslash and final thrust. Hammer Wars have KD, why you have irresistible blow also is odd for a derv hammer combo. Just saying you can't compare DPS with skills, since different weaponry have different outcomes.
Sword, hammer or axe have different out comes and different uses. Choosing sword, hammer or axe should depend on what build you are running as a team. eg. crip slash war + SA sin or shock axe and back breaker hammer. for the sword i added that cuz it was just a fast spike, not ment to do any thing after the last attack
i re did the hammer but its not a big jump just by about 5 DPS replaced bar with [skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill]
Sword, hammer or axe have different out comes and different uses. Choosing sword, hammer or axe should depend on what build you are running as a team. eg. crip slash war + SA sin or shock axe and back breaker hammer. for the sword i added that cuz it was just a fast spike, not ment to do any thing after the last attack
i re did the hammer but its not a big jump just by about 5 DPS replaced bar with [skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]mighty blow[/skill][skill]heavy blow[/skill]
blue.rellik
Dlsash and spike do not belong in the same sentence
Marty Silverblade
Sword because of Godmode. I can deal insane damage numbers, make my team basically unkillable (this is PvE, remember), and keep you knocked down for as long as I like. Sounds gg to me.
mr. heroic
ftw i like axes because it's a balance between a sword's good looks and a hammer's high damage
Trax Reborn
i find myself running axe most of the time overall, due to my laziness to weapon/armor swap with storage. but for pvp i run about 50/50 hammer/axe. i dont see much use for a sword besides a few farming builds.
Issac
Pve sword and pvp hammer no doubt about it, crazy damage with hammers.
i Valinor
axe and hammer are my choices.
sword is fun but i preffer the above
sword is fun but i preffer the above
Yukito Kunisaki
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. heroic
ftw i like axes because it's a balance between a sword's good looks and a hammer's high damage
Agreed. Having a Shield to tank with already high AL is a nice bonus.
shrouded^god
PvE=sword most of the time....may bump over to axe sometime
PvP=Axe unless someone asks for a cripslash
Only time I use a hammer is on a RaO^^
PvP=Axe unless someone asks for a cripslash
Only time I use a hammer is on a RaO^^
Malice Black
Me = axe
Hero = sword
win/win
Hero = sword
win/win
mr. heroic
looks like no-one loves a hammer
Squishy ftw
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. heroic
looks like no-one loves a hammer
I love hammers .. in RA.
Riotgear
"For Great Justice!" Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash Dragon Slash
Need I say more?
Need I say more?
Shuuda
I a Hammer Love, I hardly play anything else on my warrior.
Longasc
Dragonslash + FGJ + Save Yourselves is often the argument in favor of Swords. You can also add Brawling Headbutt and DS for a 20 second knocklock.
But be it PvP or PvE, Axes offer unconditional Deep Wounds and high critical damage plus 3 great AoE attacks. Leave SY to a Paragon and just axe them!
But be it PvP or PvE, Axes offer unconditional Deep Wounds and high critical damage plus 3 great AoE attacks. Leave SY to a Paragon and just axe them!
Grammar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Me = axe
Hero = sword
win/win No, other way around is the win/win.
The only thing that makes swords > axes in PvE is Dragon Slash and PvE skills. Remove Dragon Slash and PvE skills from the game, and axes > swords by a mile.
Heroes suck at Dragon Slash (relative to human players) and can't use PvE skills. Therefore, for heroes, axes > swords.
The best build for warrior heroes is a simple Triple Chop + Dismember axe build, while you yourself run a DS sword build.
Hero = sword
win/win No, other way around is the win/win.
The only thing that makes swords > axes in PvE is Dragon Slash and PvE skills. Remove Dragon Slash and PvE skills from the game, and axes > swords by a mile.
Heroes suck at Dragon Slash (relative to human players) and can't use PvE skills. Therefore, for heroes, axes > swords.
The best build for warrior heroes is a simple Triple Chop + Dismember axe build, while you yourself run a DS sword build.
Malice Black
1. I prefer Axe
2. Who said I used D-Slash on my hero
3. I don't use PvE skills
Therefore Axe>sword
G'night.
2. Who said I used D-Slash on my hero
3. I don't use PvE skills
Therefore Axe>sword
G'night.
Fourex
I run all dependant on mood setting (pve/pvp) team needs etc. No preferences I like them all equally.
Lately I have been playing Earthshaker in PvE, RA and HA and busting everything in front of me. So you can bore yourself to death with FGJ Dragonslash in PvE or you can do things different and still blow things up just as fast while offering shutdown and a place for caster damage to gather.
Lately I have been playing Earthshaker in PvE, RA and HA and busting everything in front of me. So you can bore yourself to death with FGJ Dragonslash in PvE or you can do things different and still blow things up just as fast while offering shutdown and a place for caster damage to gather.
Coolquest
90% of the time I use hammer. In PVE, earthshaker + splinter weapon = epic pwnage, that or enraged spirit and do 90 per second. In AB dev hammer ftw =)
skar123
Im trying out hammer at the moment. Here is what i have, from what ive seen its unique from others, but mind you i havent played since the game came out almost until a few days ago.
I use flourish (elite), what it does is recharges all your skills and for each skill on cooldown provides a given amount of energy depending on str, 7 for each at 14.
In addition, Power attack, irresistable blow, crushing blow, berserker's stance, and mighty blow...
How you do this is start off with ber stance to build up adrenaline, then use irresistable blow followed by power attack. then use flourish recharging power attack and irresistable blow, also giving you back 14 energy. Then i use a Crushing blow, irresistable blow, power attack line, finished off by flourish. Again refreshing all your cool downs and giving you this time 21 energy, although youll only get the 20.
Basicaly I never don't have energy to perform an attack. Its a straight non-stop string off attacks if timed properly. Oh and toss in mighty blow when its up.
for the other two i have a counter blow, belly smash combo in case im being attacked and get the chance to blind adjecent opponents.
I didnt come up with this all on my own its a mixture of builds i saw here and there. Feed back would be awesome, like i said i just came back after 2 years and might have no clue what im doing here.
I use flourish (elite), what it does is recharges all your skills and for each skill on cooldown provides a given amount of energy depending on str, 7 for each at 14.
In addition, Power attack, irresistable blow, crushing blow, berserker's stance, and mighty blow...
How you do this is start off with ber stance to build up adrenaline, then use irresistable blow followed by power attack. then use flourish recharging power attack and irresistable blow, also giving you back 14 energy. Then i use a Crushing blow, irresistable blow, power attack line, finished off by flourish. Again refreshing all your cool downs and giving you this time 21 energy, although youll only get the 20.
Basicaly I never don't have energy to perform an attack. Its a straight non-stop string off attacks if timed properly. Oh and toss in mighty blow when its up.
for the other two i have a counter blow, belly smash combo in case im being attacked and get the chance to blind adjecent opponents.
I didnt come up with this all on my own its a mixture of builds i saw here and there. Feed back would be awesome, like i said i just came back after 2 years and might have no clue what im doing here.
Scary Raebbit
Axe is what I am mostly running now.
Eviscerate
Body Blow/Executioner's
D-Chop
Bull's Strike
Shock/Rend Touch
Frenzy
Rush
or Hammer, but I miss pumping out more damage since you can't really use Flail at will like Frenzy.
Sword comes in behind those. D-Slash Bar is crowded. Cripslash doesn't seem as great as Bull's Evisce Exe/BB.
Eviscerate
Body Blow/Executioner's
D-Chop
Bull's Strike
Shock/Rend Touch
Frenzy
Rush
or Hammer, but I miss pumping out more damage since you can't really use Flail at will like Frenzy.
Sword comes in behind those. D-Slash Bar is crowded. Cripslash doesn't seem as great as Bull's Evisce Exe/BB.
Winterclaw
I prefer swords for no particular reason other than they look cool and with the right build are close enough to axes in terms of efficiency.
However if you want to be a good warrior, you need to be able to spec into any of the three depending on your situation. For example if you are PvPing with 2 warriors, one of them should consider going hammer with the other going sword or axe.
However if you want to be a good warrior, you need to be able to spec into any of the three depending on your situation. For example if you are PvPing with 2 warriors, one of them should consider going hammer with the other going sword or axe.
nebuchanezzar
I don't really use my warrior in pve anymore, hence my swords are collecting dust.
I prefer hammer warrior. Knocklock chains are devastating. However, you give up some spiking power because of the slow attack rate imo.
If the team isn't running a hammer war then I prefer the classic shock/ax.
Shock/Ax = spike power + pressure
Hammer = Knock locks + decent spike power
this is pvp only though, like I said, I don't really pve on my warrior anymore. If I did it would probably have to be GodMode or TripleChop with a rit behind me spamming Splinter Weapon.
I prefer hammer warrior. Knocklock chains are devastating. However, you give up some spiking power because of the slow attack rate imo.
If the team isn't running a hammer war then I prefer the classic shock/ax.
Shock/Ax = spike power + pressure
Hammer = Knock locks + decent spike power
this is pvp only though, like I said, I don't really pve on my warrior anymore. If I did it would probably have to be GodMode or TripleChop with a rit behind me spamming Splinter Weapon.
cellardweller
Yes, I prefer to use axe, sword or hammer.
Jam Jar
Sword: DPS
Axe: Spike
Hammer: Knockdown/Annoyance/Damage/Pressure
Axe: Spike
Hammer: Knockdown/Annoyance/Damage/Pressure
Div
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riotgear
"For Great Justice!" Dragon Slash Guardian ...
Fixed that for ya
Cebe
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. heroic
looks like no-one loves a hammer
<3 Hammers.
I've never had so much fun with my warrior than I have with a hammer.
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Crude Swing[/skill][skill]Earth Shaker[/skill][wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki] + Splinter Weapon Hero + Orders Dervish = lulz.
I've never had so much fun with my warrior than I have with a hammer.
[skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Crude Swing[/skill][skill]Earth Shaker[/skill][wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki] + Splinter Weapon Hero + Orders Dervish = lulz.
bungusmaximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by shrouded^god
Only time I use a hammer is on a RaO^^
Sad but true
reason why noone loves hammer warrs.
I am an axe man no doubt, for both pvp and pve, cripslash can be fun too, but axe spikes a tad better.
reason why noone loves hammer warrs.
I am an axe man no doubt, for both pvp and pve, cripslash can be fun too, but axe spikes a tad better.
samcobra
quite a few PvE foes have this imba ability to not get KD'd... pretty much owns a hammer warrior.
Also frenzy crude swing is lulz
Also frenzy crude swing is lulz
bungusmaximus
Quote:
Originally Posted by samcobra
quite a few PvE foes have this imba ability to not get KD'd... pretty much owns a hammer warrior.
Also frenzy crude swing is lulz I make an exception for margonites, they don't like AoE kd at all.
Also frenzy crude swing is lulz I make an exception for margonites, they don't like AoE kd at all.
blue.rellik
I love hammers, especially my Tormented Maul. Going Backbreaker -> Mighty -> Hammer Bash -> Crushing Blow is just awesome