Synching in Random Arena = EASY ....cheap and unfair gameplay???
RhanoctJocosa
I edited my post to respond to another person who I missed when reading the page, I didn't change anything I wrote previously. Nice try though. Anyway, rob is correct, etc. etc. enough of this thread.
Lord Darksoul
Sync'ing in RA is cheap.
The point is to play with a random group of people, not take advantage of that and play with a guild team vs. random groups of people. Regardless, I've rarely come across sync'ers (that I see). Maybe once every 30-40 battles. Truthfully, the glad title is an extremely long title to max, and I don't see the point in trying to max that title.
Point is, it's cheap, but usually rare, so you can't do much about it. Not big enough for ANet to care, too much trouble for ANet to try and deal with it.
The point is to play with a random group of people, not take advantage of that and play with a guild team vs. random groups of people. Regardless, I've rarely come across sync'ers (that I see). Maybe once every 30-40 battles. Truthfully, the glad title is an extremely long title to max, and I don't see the point in trying to max that title.
Point is, it's cheap, but usually rare, so you can't do much about it. Not big enough for ANet to care, too much trouble for ANet to try and deal with it.
Kula
I remember the first few months when people complained how it was unfair for players to equip Drok's armor in Ascalon RA.
{IceFire}
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Originally Posted by Isileth
Screw the other people who are playing the game.
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i endorse this message
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
RA is not guild wars
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If people keep saying "it's just ..." then they may as well not fix anything in the game at all.
ie. It's just PvE, It's just HB, It's just AB, It's just Jade Quarry, etc, etc.
Lord Natural
Is this another thread where people whine about things which aren't really broken in a desperate attempt to ruin other people's fun?
Yes, if you play at certain hours you have a reasonable chance of getting in with a friend, over a few attempts anyway. Is this really the end of the world? RA is already hopeless and unfun 95% of the time. Cry enough, anet will eventually patch it, and then it will go down to 100%. The fact is, a lot of the people who synch are bad, and even for those who aren't, if you go through 10 wins in RA you'll usually face a team or two with a TA-ish make-up. Whether they are friends or not is irrelevant.
Yes, if you play at certain hours you have a reasonable chance of getting in with a friend, over a few attempts anyway. Is this really the end of the world? RA is already hopeless and unfun 95% of the time. Cry enough, anet will eventually patch it, and then it will go down to 100%. The fact is, a lot of the people who synch are bad, and even for those who aren't, if you go through 10 wins in RA you'll usually face a team or two with a TA-ish make-up. Whether they are friends or not is irrelevant.
Isileth
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
This whole post is just a whine, but I'd like to know where I said it was cheating.
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Ok, I'll continue cheating in RA, and will continue to gain gladiator points, roll bad teams and have fun while doing it.
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As for it being a whine.
Im pointing out there are other people who also want to have fun. When someone exploits the system or cheats to get an advantage over them that can stop them having fun.
Is that a whine? To suggest you are effecting other people?
garethporlest18
Meh I've beaten TA teams with RA teams so people syncing isn't that big of a deal. Just usually I get half assed players on my team most of the time. When we win because of the other players on my team instead of me. then I know I got a good team.
Not saying that I'm not bad cause I am, but I got my good moments.
Not saying that I'm not bad cause I am, but I got my good moments.
Biostem
I've never done RA, and I rarely PvP, but from a purely chance standpoint, if there aren't many people in a certain RA district/instance, then wouldn't the chance of teaming w/ someone you want to, be increased?
Is there something these people are doing to guarantee they get on the same team? Is there some other timing mechanism that I am not aware of?
By all means, if someone is intentionally manipulating the system to give themselves an advantage, then they should be dealt with, but I'm just thinking that we may be only seeing the instances where these people get on the same team, as opposed to the times when things don't go as planned...
Is there something these people are doing to guarantee they get on the same team? Is there some other timing mechanism that I am not aware of?
By all means, if someone is intentionally manipulating the system to give themselves an advantage, then they should be dealt with, but I'm just thinking that we may be only seeing the instances where these people get on the same team, as opposed to the times when things don't go as planned...
Martin Alvito
This isn't the first complaint about syncing, and it won't be the last.
If there's a more efficient way to do something, people are going to do it until ANet stops them. This is why we have skill balances, glitch fixes, and so forth. If you want to argue "it's unfair, don't do it," you're wasting your breath.
Since people have been doing this for at least 18 months, and since ANet has not addressed the issue, one might as well call it legal at this point.
Suggest thread lock.
If there's a more efficient way to do something, people are going to do it until ANet stops them. This is why we have skill balances, glitch fixes, and so forth. If you want to argue "it's unfair, don't do it," you're wasting your breath.
Since people have been doing this for at least 18 months, and since ANet has not addressed the issue, one might as well call it legal at this point.
Suggest thread lock.
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Isileth
Well you said it right....here
As for it being a whine. Im pointing out there are other people who also want to have fun. When someone exploits the system or cheats to get an advantage over them that can stop them having fun. Is that a whine? To suggest you are effecting other people? |
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Originally Posted by Lord Natural
Is this another thread where people whine about things which aren't really broken in a desperate attempt to ruin other people's fun?
Yes, if you play at certain hours you have a reasonable chance of getting in with a friend, over a few attempts anyway. Is this really the end of the world? RA is already hopeless and unfun 95% of the time. Cry enough, anet will eventually patch it, and then it will go down to 100%. The fact is, a lot of the people who synch are bad, and even for those who aren't, if you go through 10 wins in RA you'll usually face a team or two with a TA-ish make-up. Whether they are friends or not is irrelevant. |
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Originally Posted by Biostem
I've never done RA, and I rarely PvP, but from a purely chance standpoint, if there aren't many people in a certain RA district/instance, then wouldn't the chance of teaming w/ someone you want to, be increased?
Is there something these people are doing to guarantee they get on the same team? Is there some other timing mechanism that I am not aware of? |
credit
Syncing is not a problem.
Lord Sojar
Thank you for making everyone on Guru aware of the Korean districts, as if the Glad title hasn't already been turned into a Grindfest 2008, you have to reveal a little known bit of info about the Korean district. Go crawl back in your bubble, life isn't fair. Boo hoo.
Syncing = glad pts = happiness = GG losers = yeh!
Syncing = glad pts = happiness = GG losers = yeh!
Loli Krasivaya
Lolz
You must suck at pvping if the only way you can get the title is through cheating
TA or get out man.
You must suck at pvping if the only way you can get the title is through cheating
TA or get out man.
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Loli Krasivaya
Lolz
You must suck at pvping if the only way you can get the title is through cheating TA or get out man. |
Oh, and if you bring your met shower warrior on my sync team again, no healing for you, and I will report you for leeching. GFG
Antheus
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Originally Posted by Loli Krasivaya
Lolz
You must suck at pvping if the only way you can get the title is through cheating TA or get out man. |
Whichever takes less effort is the better way.
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
...Thank you for making everyone on Guru aware of the Korean districts...
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Originally Posted by Loli Krasivaya
Lolz
You must suck at pvping if the only way you can get the title is through cheating TA or get out man. |
TA is an absolute joke now, and it's going to stay that way untill GW2 because Izzy is not committed to skill balancing. As such, RA, ironically, is the only arena where you can enjoy balanced 4v4 play, providing you play in the international districts and at a good time. If TA was as balanced as it used to be, I'd never sync, let alone play, RA simply because TA would be more worth my time, and I'm sure many players see it that way.
Cry more and get out man.
Solange
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
I edited my post to respond to another person who I missed when reading the page, I didn't change anything I wrote previously. Nice try though. Anyway, rob is correct, etc. etc. enough of this thread.
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| Ok, I'll continue cheating in RA, and will continue to gain gladiator points, roll bad teams and have fun while doing it. You can continue crying on guru about a "problem" that's been around since the beginning of RA, and let everyone know how bad you are. |
I don't like syncing in Random Arena because its unfair, the rules of a random pvp setup is the people on my team are randomly chosen and so are the people we're facing...I have less fun when I come up against a setup team because I'll majority of the time lose to them because of the lack of preparation the random team i've been assigned has
Its unfair but it can be fixed if the devs chose to do it and see it as a problem
If they don't see it as a problem i'll probably just not bother with random arena as its frustrating being at a disadvantage
Thats a valid complaint asking to make sure the rules and fair play are set in this pvp gameplay type
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
It doesn't really matter, lots of people go there now.
How long have you been playing this game? You're probably one of the R5ish Glads who think they're amazing because they can button mash their way through a gimmick-filled TA. Excluding the points I've gained from RA, I probably have about triple your gladiator points. TA is an absolute joke now, and it's going to stay that way untill GW2 because Izzy is not commited to skill balancing. As such, RA, ironically, is the only arena where you can enjoy balanced 4v4 play, providing you play in the international districts and at a good time. If TA was as balanced as it used to be, I'd never sync, let alone play, RA simply because TA would be more worth my time, and I'm sure many players see it that way. Cry more and get out man. |
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Originally Posted by Solange
Whine, definition....condescending way of saying you don't like what someone has to say so you turn it into an insult by saying its a whine
I don't like syncing in Random Arena because its unfair, the rules of a random pvp setup is the people on my team are randomly chosen and so are the people we're facing...I have less fun when I come up against a setup team because I'll majority of the time lose to them because of the lack of preparation the random team i've been assigned has Its unfair but it can be fixed if the devs chose to do it and see it as a problem If they don't see it as a problem i'll probably just not bother with random arena as its frustrating being at a disadvantage Thats a valid complaint asking to make sure the rules and fair play are set in this pvp gameplay type |
Solange
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
It doesn't really matter, lots of people go there now.
How long have you been playing this game? You're probably one of the R5ish Glads who think they're amazing because they can button mash their way through a gimmick-filled TA. Excluding the points I've gained from RA, I probably have about triple your gladiator points. TA is an absolute joke now, and it's going to stay that way untill GW2 because Izzy is not committed to skill balancing. As such, RA, ironically, is the only arena where you can enjoy balanced 4v4 play, providing you play in the international districts and at a good time. If TA was as balanced as it used to be, I'd never sync, let alone play, RA simply because TA would be more worth my time, and I'm sure many players see it that way. Cry more and get out man. |
Team Arena you don't play anymore because its a "joke" because you lose there to actual teams
So now you're saying Random Arena is the only 4 vs 4 YOU Can enjoy because maybe you're the only person with an actual team while the people you face are usually not teamed up at all
Its fun when you win and shitty when you lose so I can see why you'd be upset if this was fixed
Ridiculous and to think you have people supporting you shows what kind of game scum have infested this game who think the way things are is okay because you get to take advantage of those who don't know about this
What if everyone in Random arena tried to sync, everteam you faced? doesn't it then end up like your team arena you so despise?
You're part of the problem man
Solange
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Boo hoo.... no one will miss you. You probably bring a Wammo if you are at a disadvantage. Here, have a tissue. |
Sab
Go play in AD1 if you don't like syncing? No really. International and now Korean Districts are full of AD1 scrubs, they've been seeping in ever since the glad point update. It would be nice if they'd go back go home districts and stop QQing.
Loli Krasivaya
Lolz I'm a monk, Rahja, I can do without your heals
And again, I don't care how easy it is to get the title, building a team in RANDOM ARENA defeats the purpose of it being RANDOM.
Is the word repetition working for you Rahja? RANDOM?
I will admit, syncing in the actual PVP world isn't that bad. There IS a title invovled. Absolutely lame, but not that bad.
It's the syncing in the PVE arenas that absolutely gets me. People who think they "own" because they can beat a couple level 5's. It's sad what people will do to make their penis feel just that much bigger.
And again, I don't care how easy it is to get the title, building a team in RANDOM ARENA defeats the purpose of it being RANDOM.
Is the word repetition working for you Rahja? RANDOM?
I will admit, syncing in the actual PVP world isn't that bad. There IS a title invovled. Absolutely lame, but not that bad.
It's the syncing in the PVE arenas that absolutely gets me. People who think they "own" because they can beat a couple level 5's. It's sad what people will do to make their penis feel just that much bigger.
credit
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Originally Posted by Solange
Whine, definition....condescending way of saying you don't like what someone has to say so you turn it into an insult by saying its a whine
I don't like syncing in Random Arena because its unfair, the rules of a random pvp setup is the people on my team are randomly chosen and so are the people we're facing...I have less fun when I come up against a setup team because I'll majority of the time lose to them because of the lack of preparation the random team i've been assigned has Its unfair but it can be fixed if the devs chose to do it and see it as a problem If they don't see it as a problem i'll probably just not bother with random arena as its frustrating being at a disadvantage Thats a valid complaint asking to make sure the rules and fair play are set in this pvp gameplay type |
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Solange
I'm not liking the way you look at the situation at all
You're saying Team Arena you don't play anymore because its a "joke" because maybe you loes there lots to actual teams So now you're saying Random Arena is the only 4 vs 4 YOU Can enjoy because well maybe you're the only person with an actual team while the people you face are usually not teamed up at all Its fun when you win and shitty when you lose so I can see why you'd be upset if this was fixed Ridiculous and to think you have people supporting you shows what kind of game scum have infested this game who think the way things are is okay because you get to take advantage of those who don't know about this What if everyone in Random arena tried to sync, everteam you faced? doesn't it then end up like your team arena you so despise? You're part of the problem man |
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Originally Posted by Loli Krasivaya
Lolz I'm a monk, Rahja, I can do without your heals
And again, I don't care how easy it is to get the title, building a team in RANDOM ARENA defeats the purpose of it being RANDOM. Is the word repetition working for you Rahja? RANDOM? I will admit, syncing in the actual PVP world isn't that bad. There IS a title invovled. Absolutely lame, but not that bad. It's the syncing in the PVE arenas that absolutely gets me. People who think they "own" because they can beat a couple level 5's. It's sad what people will do to make their penis feel just that much bigger. |
RhanoctJocosa
The posters before me had different beliefs of what cheating was, so when I said I would continue "cheating", I wasn't agreeing with them that syncing was cheating, I was simply letting everyone know that noone is going to come to an agreement as to whether syncing was cheating or not and so we should drop it. Though it is my fault, I should've put it in inverted commas. Anyway, once a mod sees this thread it's gonna go pew pew, so whatever.
Solange
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Originally Posted by credit
Seriously kid, quit whining about something that isn't a problem.
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If they don't want new players either to have to go through Random Arena to unlock teams - Please Arena.Net open up the island and make it unlocked for everyone so new players don't have to run into the filth that infest random arenas
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Solange
its a problem because i see it as one especially when its so blatantly obvious, you might not but i'm entitled to speak my mind
If they don't want new players either to have to go through Random Arena to unlock teams - Please Arena.Net open up the island and make it unlocked for everyone so new players don't have to run into the filth that infest random arenas |
Solange
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Or they can just go play in the American districts. GL syncing in there. It is filled with all the morons trying to get to TA. Oh I feel sorry for them.
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it matches everyone up
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Solange
teams eventually meet each other from all over, it doesn't matter if you are in the korean, europe, int or american districts you will fight american teams because theres usually not enough people in the korean districts or int districts
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Toxage
I think syncing is destroying the intent of Random Arenas. Random Arenas are meant to be four RANDOM people fighting together. Syncing destroys the randomness and gaining a significant advantage over other teams. I don't really think this is a major issue. Because
1) This topic has been brought up like 20 times before and still remains the same.
2) Random arena isn't very popular.
3) Gladiator isn't very respected because the majority of people that have it synced to get it, it is already a cheapened title.
1) This topic has been brought up like 20 times before and still remains the same.
2) Random arena isn't very popular.
3) Gladiator isn't very respected because the majority of people that have it synced to get it, it is already a cheapened title.
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Toxage
I think syncing is destroying the intent of Random Arenas. Random Arenas are meant to be four RANDOM people fighting together. Syncing destroys the randomness and gaining a significant advantage over other teams. I don't really think this is a major issue. Because
1) This topic has been brought up like 20 times before and still remains the same. 2) Random arena isn't very popular. 3) Gladiator isn't very respected because the majority of people that have it synced to get it, it is already a cheapened title. |
Solange
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Originally Posted by Toxage
I think syncing is destroying the intent of Random Arenas. Random Arenas are meant to be four RANDOM people fighting together. Syncing destroys the randomness and gaining a significant advantage over other teams. I don't really think this is a major issue. Because
1) This topic has been brought up like 20 times before and still remains the same. 2) Random arena isn't very popular. 3) Gladiator isn't very respected because the majority of people that have it synced to get it, it is already a cheapened title. |
2. Its got more people in it than Team Arenas + heroes ascent at times you have 3 to 4 districts in America for random arena
3. yeah....
I pwnd U
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Originally Posted by Solange
1. If its a problem this won't be the last thread on it, rename random arena then to team arena to lesson confusion - people play because its fair
2. Its got more people in it than Team Arenas + heroes ascent at times you have 3 to 4 districts in America for random arena 3. yeah.... |
2. Yes it has more people, yes it is probably the most popular way to PvP, but compared to the number of people you see during PvE, it's nothing. Many of those people just afk there when they go afk.
3. It's true, no one cares much about gladiator. You can be at rank 7 of glads and no one will give a crap.
No matter what you do in RA, you will always be a noob to someone. Someone is always going to call you a noob win or lose, and then deem whatever happened unfair. Random=unfair
Solange
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Originally Posted by I pwnd U
1. RA will never be fair, one team will get a monk the other team will get all melee. It may look fair to the team with the monk but to the all melee team this will be "unfair"
2. Yes it has more people, yes it is probably the most popular way to PvP, but compared to the number of people you see during PvE, it's nothing. Many of those people just afk there when they go afk. 3. It's true, no one cares much about gladiator. You can be at rank 7 of glads and no one will give a crap. No matter what you do in RA, you will always be a noob to someone. Someone is always going to call you a noob win or lose, and then deem whatever happened unfair. Random=unfair |
2. that doesn't make it any less valid to be looked at and taken care of, maybe more people would play if things were more RANDOM....i would knowing this...i was ignorant of this before and went along anyway thinking the teams i played were randomly chosen as I and thinking I just had bad luck or I wasn't that skilled but I haven't synced any of my gladiator points and i'm up to 226
3. I wonder if its these synced teams calling others noobs LOL ...
I pwnd U
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Originally Posted by Solange
1. Thats part of it being RANDOM - thats fair if one team gets a monk through a RANDOM system if a team gets a monk and his buddy warrior and his buddy necromancer together on the same team through a sync that is UNFAIR and goes against the whole point of a RANDOM arena...
2. that doesn't make it any less valid to be looked at and taken care of, maybe more people would play if things were more RANDOM....i would knowing this...i was ignorant of this before and went along anyway thinking the teams i played were randomly chosen as I and thinking I just had bad luck or I wasn't that skilled but I haven't synced any of my gladiator points and i'm up to 226 3. I wonder if its these synced teams calling others noobs LOL ... |
2. Thats good that you haven't synced, neither have I. But I highly doubt more people would play it, many of those people are either afk or trying to sync. You take away the syncing you will probably see a drop in RA attendance, though slight as it may be.
3. More then likely, yes.
RhanoctJocosa
Gladiator isn't respected much anymore because of the state of TA, not so much because of syncing.
Solange
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1. Aren't you just arguing about it being unfair for teams to sync? No matter which way you spin the bottle it's going to be UNFAIR. Which would be the point I am trying to make, in case you missed it. A team getting a monk and 3 other decent players is going to be just as unfair as a monk and his 2 buddies syncing. (And you know this is Random Arenas? No one really gives a flying flick about it, people go there to just screw around or to farm glad points.)
2. Thats good that you haven't synced, neither have I. But I highly doubt more people would play it, many of those people are either afk or trying to sync. You take away the syncing you will probably see a drop in RA attendance, though slight as it may be. 3. More then likely, yes. |
No one gives a flying flick about it? I do...
2. why would less people play in RA if it actual was random for once
I would play more knowing its actual RANDOM setup and the teams i'm going against haven't been manufactured
Why do these people SYNC in random arena when there is TEAM arena?
1. Because they know they will have more difficulty facing teams that are also setup like they are
2. Because they can beat teams that are at a disadvantage to them in Random Arenas
the amount of bullshit excuses to justify why they sync in RA blows my mind...
I pwnd U
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Originally Posted by Solange
1. I get that point - yes, i'm saying its unfair for people to sync in a place thats supposed to set teams RANDOMLY - a team getting a 1 monk and 3 good players is not unfair if the means to acquire that team were through a random selection process. It is unfair if people circumvent the random process selection and setup their own team....Do you see what i mean?
No one gives a flying flick about it? I do... 2. why would less people play in RA if it actual was random for once I would play more knowing its actual RANDOM setup and the teams i'm going against haven't been manufactured Why do these people SYNC in random arena when there is TEAM arena? 1. Because they know they will have more difficulty facing teams that are also setup like they are 2. Because they can beat teams that are at a disadvantage to them in Random Arenas the amount of bullshit excuses to justify why they sync in RA blows my mind... |
Kerwyn Nasilan
Syncing will always be an issue, all the QQ threads in the world will not stop people from doing it.