Since some idiot decided to merge every district so you can switch around, I have been signing in to EU and US districts and instantly, and I mean INSTANTLY, recieving gold-sale whispers. Now this isn't meant to be racist, or anything similar, but this has only started outside of International Districts since the Korean servers were linked with US/EU servers. Now since it would be harsh, and probably too much work for Anet-fu-gw-gw2-ftw's team to change this back, why not simply just disallow trial accounts from using local chat, trade chat or whisper.
Here are the reasons, and why it would work.
1) It would stop gold-sellers, which typically seem to be asian-based, from using Local Chat, Whisper or Trade Chat for selling their gold
2) It would NOT affect the play for people using trial accounts to see if they want to play GW. They can still access the game, and try out the missions and quests. Being able to interact with the GW players is not something that will affect their trial time. Infact hell, it might even convince them that the £15 GW:Proph costs is actually worth it.
Anyhoo, just a note from someone who is sick of gold sellers, and in particular, how little seems to be getting done about them.
I mean how does anyone whisper me before I've finished loading, on a PC with 2GB of memory. Come ON
I believe a similar system is in place in WoW, and it works quite well. No whispers...they have to manually invite you into a group to advertise, and I for one don't usually accept invites from "Ssdf Osdfnsg"
Edit: Or re-introduce Pablo's old crash bug for people to send to bots for when they just won't take the hint, crashing their client.
Block Trial Accounts from using Whisper
MrSlayer
Quru
Yes i'll loved that in WoW-trial i cannot whisper to my friend to talk about game and how to play it. Yeah i loved it that in MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game i could not try contacting other people when playing trial. Yeah block all whispers from gw, they suck.
brigsaz
Blocking whisper wouldnt block team chat.... Just gives the trial person more incentive to by the game. Of course this is only if the trial accounts are indeed the source of the gold spammers.
Anguish
I understand gold sellers are annoying, but it's not your problem. They shouldn't be able to ruin the gameplay, even for those who haven't actually bought the game yet and if they only want to try it out.
You could as well say "Trail accounts aren't allowed to choose other profession than a *Insert your favorite/least favorite* profession here and they shouldn't be expressing their opinions/teaming up with other people/trade with other people"
SS and report.
SS and report.
SS and report.
Repeat.
You could as well say "Trail accounts aren't allowed to choose other profession than a *Insert your favorite/least favorite* profession here and they shouldn't be expressing their opinions/teaming up with other people/trade with other people"
SS and report.
SS and report.
SS and report.
Repeat.
DarkGanni
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Originally Posted by MrSlayer
Since some idiot decided to merge every district so you can switch around, I have been signing in to EU and US districts and instantly, and I mean INSTANTLY, recieving gold-sale whispers. Now this isn't meant to be racist, or anything similar, but this has only started outside of International Districts since the Korean servers were linked with US/EU servers. Now since it would be harsh, and probably too much work for Anet-fu-gw-gw2-ftw's team to change this back, why not simply just disallow trial accounts from using local chat, trade chat or whisper.
Here are the reasons, and why it would work. 1) It would stop gold-sellers, which typically seem to be asian-based, from using Local Chat, Whisper or Trade Chat for selling their gold 2) It would NOT affect the play for people using trial accounts to see if they want to play GW. They can still access the game, and try out the missions and quests. Being able to interact with the GW players is not something that will affect their trial time. Infact hell, it might even convince them that the £15 GW:Proph costs is actually worth it. Anyhoo, just a note from someone who is sick of gold sellers, and in particular, how little seems to be getting done about them. I mean how does anyone whisper me before I've finished loading, on a PC with 2GB of memory. Come ON I believe a similar system is in place in WoW, and it works quite well. No whispers...they have to manually invite you into a group to advertise, and I for one don't usually accept invites from "Ssdf Osdfnsg" Edit: Or re-introduce Pablo's old crash bug for people to send to bots for when they just won't take the hint, crashing their client. |
/SIGNED
- Ganni
Frozy
However, some people would like to try the game with their friends, how can they do that without whispering?
Maybe it's possible to allow whispers (on trial accounts) only if your friend has you in his friend list... that would be nice.
You're not going to add one of those bots to your friends list, are you?
If that problem is gone, /signed
Maybe it's possible to allow whispers (on trial accounts) only if your friend has you in his friend list... that would be nice.
You're not going to add one of those bots to your friends list, are you?
If that problem is gone, /signed
MarxF
You just hating Whispers 'cause he's black :[
Siirius Black
The problem with these guys is that they wispher and as soon as you get into the district they are gone or have figured out how to modify GW to know when someone has arrived to a particular town and wispher inmediately. I tried to report the account countless times with no success, since you have to be in the same district as the person you want to report. Tried to change district to find the bot only to find out that I cant find him in any of the districts.
Is like they skip to another town. Now you get the wispers in any town. That's getting really annoying. I have in my block list like 10 names. I wish Anet comes up with a system to report gold sellers.
Ban whisper only for trial accounts
/Signed
Is like they skip to another town. Now you get the wispers in any town. That's getting really annoying. I have in my block list like 10 names. I wish Anet comes up with a system to report gold sellers.
Ban whisper only for trial accounts
/Signed
Deadly Panda
/signed. Nothing more annoying then getting whispers like "Go to www.-------.com and get one ecto if you buy 100k of gw gold."
Numa Pompilius
Trial accounts can't whisper, AFAIK. The whispers are from "real" accounts hiding in a different district to avoid being reported, presumably using "spotterbots" to collect player names to whisper.
Darkobra
I love the mindset of people not being able to talk to their friends at all with this feature. www.xfire.com
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by Anguish
I understand gold sellers are annoying, but it's not your problem. They shouldn't be able to ruin the gameplay, even for those who haven't actually bought the game yet and if they only want to try it out.
You could as well say "Trail accounts aren't allowed to choose other profession than a *Insert your favorite/least favorite* profession here and they shouldn't be expressing their opinions/teaming up with other people/trade with other people" SS and report. SS and report. SS and report. Repeat. |
Such a limited post do you not understand how bad some people get these wispers??
Go ahead and give me your IGN and let me PM you with BUY GOLD FROM blah site for xx$ I will spam it to you every 10-15 mins (lets see how fast you stay loged in)
I get a wisper every 15-30 mins in 2-4 PM spams at a time.
I know of a few others that get 1 every 5-10 mins till they log off (these bots have hindered more then you know) most of the people that get them this often do not put up with it for long and just log out, (my question for you is why the hell should we have to log off to avoid these bots?)
Do not even say switch to DnD if you do thats even more of a limited response then the post.
Why should I have to go to DnD to avoid wispers from bots when I have 30 friends that pm me daily as well as 50 G members that chat with me (most through Pms)
The second paragraph is just WOW you are very simple minded. how is a profession hindering game play? does the ele spam gold websites to you?
does the monk heal you with ebay gold? Does the warrior kill you with GDPS (gold damg per second).
All everyone is asking is when you download the trial key it pops up with a window that says this "you are about to play a trial of Guild Wars this trial will last for xx hours across x days and you will not have the option to wisper people or use Local chat or Trade chat but you can use Team Chat These options are turned off for the trial when you buy the game all functions will be operating.
^^seems this way is the same a most free/shareware.
Sir Pandra Pierva
i have a problem with the gold spammers but i think the best idea to get rid of them is the virus option
EmptySkull
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SS and report. SS and report. SS and report. Repeat. |
Legendary Reporter.
Rank 1 1000 reports- Rat
Rank 2 5000 reports- Tattle-tale
Rank 3 10000 reports- "Mommy, tell him to stop touching me"
It sucks. Anet will do something I'm sure. And if you are bothered you shouldreport.
robot of chaos
dunno they started to pm me this weak but doesn't rly happen much so don't got a big prob with it but if the prob would grow it would be very annoying
/signed
/signed
HawkofStorms
/signed
I love how many gold sellers and buyers quickly come to denounce all these types of suggestions.
I know Galie and others have said that this would hurt the effectiveness of free trials for honest usage,... but I don't care. I think it is a stupid idea to have free trials in the first place because it gives these bots the ability to operate. A happy medium between not having free trials at all would be to disable thier ability to spam.
I love how many gold sellers and buyers quickly come to denounce all these types of suggestions.
I know Galie and others have said that this would hurt the effectiveness of free trials for honest usage,... but I don't care. I think it is a stupid idea to have free trials in the first place because it gives these bots the ability to operate. A happy medium between not having free trials at all would be to disable thier ability to spam.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by EmptySkull
"Mommy, tell him to stop touching me"
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Anyway, gotta agree with the mantra proposed earlier: the way to deal with whisperbots is to screenshot and submit a complaint at www.guildwars.com .
Longasc
Why not just type /report and select the appropriate option: SPAMMING?
Or something similar, I reported a gold whisperer today this way.
Or something similar, I reported a gold whisperer today this way.
Diddy bow
Only allow whispers from f-list imo...
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Longasc
Why not just type /report and select the appropriate option: SPAMMING?
Or something similar, I reported a gold whisperer today this way. |
TheRaven
I still think the best solution is to create a new "trial region". Trial accounts load into the trial region instead of the American/European/Asian regions and they are stuck there. Allow them access to the international districts in case they want to team up with a seasoned player during their trial, but no place else.
roshanabey2
/notsigned
Anet would never do it
new players would get a bad experience of GW it they can't whisper, and won't buy the game = Anet's pockets empty.
Newbies (notice i didn't use noobs) like help for experinced player
Anet would never do it
new players would get a bad experience of GW it they can't whisper, and won't buy the game = Anet's pockets empty.
Newbies (notice i didn't use noobs) like help for experinced player
Day Trooper
How about letting users have a 'whisper-list': i.e. only those users they put on the list are allowed to whisper them. This would still allow trial accounts to whisper - but would alleviate the problem of gold-spammers doing their thang 
In fact, an option could be added to allow users (a). whispers from anyone or (b). only allow whispers from those folks on their whisper-list.
Problem Solved!!!
In fact, an option could be added to allow users (a). whispers from anyone or (b). only allow whispers from those folks on their whisper-list.
Problem Solved!!!
Sparks Dawnbringer
This is getting old and a pain in the netherworld. I don't know if this would work because the bots are smarter than GW. You would think they could trace them from their names. I've tried to ignore them but they just come back with another slightly differnt name.
Cale Roughstar
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
The problem is, that doesn't DO anything. The bot gets banned, but since it is using a trial account, it just instantly creates another one (ie, its written into the code, it takes a bot like 20 seconds to create a new account, if that). And then it is back.
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HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar
Dont think that would be too much of a problem. ANET bans ip adresses, and all it would take is a 3 strikes (I dont actually care, just pick a number) rule. 3 strikes = ip ban. This should do a decent job deterring them. However, if they want to go and set up proxy ip's... well, I dunno.
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You see, all the things bots CAN DO to get around being banned, they do. It is about making money for them. If they don't do it, they won't have a job. A.net isn't doing everything they can do to stop it though. They don't have the same motivation.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Longasc
Why not just type /report and select the appropriate option: SPAMMING?
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Since he's in another district /report doesn't work, so you have to screenshot & submit a ticket at www.guildwars.com to report him.
And, again, I believe it already is so that trial accounts can't whisper. They can only use the ALL channel, ie they can spam but not whisper-spam.
Rushin Roulette
Pfft, I just wisper back with an imaginary site
Spammer "BUy my gold from ww.gwscammers.ink"
Me"Buy your gold from my site www.mescamumoron.mok me much cheaper than your crap site"
Then continue with enter up arrow enter to resend the whisper untill I get bored with it, or until im finished reading the WTB/WTS lists.
Spammer "BUy my gold from ww.gwscammers.ink"
Me"Buy your gold from my site www.mescamumoron.mok me much cheaper than your crap site"
Then continue with enter up arrow enter to resend the whisper untill I get bored with it, or until im finished reading the WTB/WTS lists.
tracco
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Originally Posted by MarxF
You just hating Whispers 'cause he's black :[
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In other news:
/signed.
newbie_of_doom
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Originally Posted by MrSlayer
2) It would NOT affect the play for people using trial accounts to see if they want to play GW. They can still access the game, and try out the missions and quests. Being able to interact with the GW players is not something that will affect their trial time. Infact hell, it might even convince them that the £15 GW:Proph costs is actually worth
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Like someone has to give you that code, you might want to whisper your friend? Don't say they can join your guild, cause some of them is actually High-End PvP who prefer not to have a member that is totally new to the game.
Don't get me wrong, I also hate the goldsellers. A better solution would be I.P. bans (if Anet isn't doing that yet) and hope for them not to use proxy.
pamelf
/unsigned. It would make it stupidly difficult to team up with friends who are trying out the game to show them the ropes. i've done that with quite a few friends. What kind of impression does it make on new players if we make it almost imossible for them to team up with their friends already playing the game?
rohara
yeah! let's change the whole whisper system just because of bots! we should also just remove monks from the game cuz bots use them to farm! /sarcasm
making the game unfriendly to new players surely isn't a solution. just report the bots and move on.
making the game unfriendly to new players surely isn't a solution. just report the bots and move on.
milkflopance
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Originally Posted by rohara
making the game unfriendly to new players surely isn't a solution. just report the bots and move on.
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As long as the people using trial accounts are given a warning message explaining why they cant use the whisper feature, i'm all for it.
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Originally Posted by rohara
yeah! let's change the whole whisper system just because of bots!
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NamelessBeauty
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OOO, noes More grind. Dastardly Anet. They just getting ready to introduce a new title.
Legendary Reporter. Rank 1 1000 reports- Rat Rank 2 5000 reports- Tattle-tale Rank 3 10000 reports- "Mommy, tell him to stop touching me" It sucks. Anet will do something I'm sure. And if you are bothered you shouldreport. |
You guys are so racism. Because you don't want to face some certain issues so you force those who play trial accounts don't have the right to even TALK? It's so bad. If you don't want to get whisper, go back to your own district. Why come to international district and complain? Jeez
Halmyr
We could meet half way.
Trial acounts cannot send Wispers, but they can reply to one.
Player A and B: A is on a trial acount, B is a regulard player.
A cannot wisper to B, But be Can wisper to A
Once B started whispering to A, A can freely whisper to B.
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This would stop Gold Spammer, but not limit friends showing the game, you would just have to decide on a name for the one thats trying the game before hand.
Trial acounts cannot send Wispers, but they can reply to one.
Player A and B: A is on a trial acount, B is a regulard player.
A cannot wisper to B, But be Can wisper to A
Once B started whispering to A, A can freely whisper to B.
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This would stop Gold Spammer, but not limit friends showing the game, you would just have to decide on a name for the one thats trying the game before hand.
EmptySkull
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
You hear that a lot, do you?
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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
/sign for this!!!!!!!!
You guys are so racism. Because you don't want to face some certain issues so you force those who play trial accounts don't have the right to even TALK? It's so bad. If you don't want to get whisper, go back to your own district. Why come to international district and complain? Jeez |
rezabm
/signed for the "Allow whispers only from my friends" option. Really easy and elegant solution.
El Presidente
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Originally Posted by rezabm
/signed for the "Allow whispers only from my friends" option. Really easy and elegant solution.
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Darkobra
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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
/sign for this!!!!!!!!
You guys are so racism. Because you don't want to face some certain issues so you force those who play trial accounts don't have the right to even TALK? It's so bad. If you don't want to get whisper, go back to your own district. Why come to international district and complain? Jeez |
2. I wish you were on a trial account.
3. I'm a Scotsman on a European district getting these whispers. Where else should I be, my darling of great intellect?
Destro Maniak
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Originally Posted by Anguish
I understand gold sellers are annoying, but it's not your problem. They shouldn't be able to ruin the gameplay, even for those who haven't actually bought the game yet and if they only want to try it out.
You could as well say "Trail accounts aren't allowed to choose other profession than a *Insert your favorite/least favorite* profession here and they shouldn't be expressing their opinions/teaming up with other people/trade with other people" SS and report. SS and report. SS and report. Repeat. |