Where'd The Rares go?
nyltak
Is it my imagination or are rares really hard to come by these days?
I am working on the Wisdom title, and have gotten to 2500 rares identified, I look at the time it took me, and then at the amount i need for the next lvl, 2500 more. OMG. I really dont want to run chests for 3 more years.
I would love to beable to play the game, go thru quests and missions and get rare drops. and let my title seeker id them.
But unless i am soloing GOK or farming Titans in DNKP, or doing a COF run - I hardly ever see a rare.
This game is called Guild Wars, not Rambo.
My guild has a fun time doing quests and helping each other out. Some titles seem to be counter productive towards the whole concept of the game.
I ve got legendary vanquisher and it was fun and a challange playing with guildees, but got maybe 1 or 2 rares in each zone i vanquished.
This just seems wrong to me.
I am working on the Wisdom title, and have gotten to 2500 rares identified, I look at the time it took me, and then at the amount i need for the next lvl, 2500 more. OMG. I really dont want to run chests for 3 more years.
I would love to beable to play the game, go thru quests and missions and get rare drops. and let my title seeker id them.
But unless i am soloing GOK or farming Titans in DNKP, or doing a COF run - I hardly ever see a rare.
This game is called Guild Wars, not Rambo.
My guild has a fun time doing quests and helping each other out. Some titles seem to be counter productive towards the whole concept of the game.
I ve got legendary vanquisher and it was fun and a challange playing with guildees, but got maybe 1 or 2 rares in each zone i vanquished.
This just seems wrong to me.
Drop of Fear
u're not supposed to earn all titles simply playing the game. why having multiple dozens of titles when just one could do the job?
"i play the game" (1) would be just fine
some titles do require time, don't come free
"i play the game" (1) would be just fine
some titles do require time, don't come free
ImaCharginMahLazor!
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Originally Posted by nyltak
I really dont want to run chests for 3 more years.
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DarkGanni
Got over 7 gold drops in CoF 2 days ago, you're just bad luck.
- Ganni
- Ganni
KingKryton
pay 1k for unid golds and youll get more sellers. none of this 7 for 3k bullshit
Inger
well I'm sure that lots of people who have the title maxed (10 000ids) bought their unids from botters back when there were constantly spamming.
It will certainly take quite a while of time to get the title if you're going to go and find/id every single one of the golds yourself. But hey, thats what titles are... they wouldn't be much of an accomplishment if they didn't take some measure of work.
It will certainly take quite a while of time to get the title if you're going to go and find/id every single one of the golds yourself. But hey, thats what titles are... they wouldn't be much of an accomplishment if they didn't take some measure of work.
nyltak
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Originally Posted by DarkGanni
Got over 7 gold drops in CoF 2 days ago, you're just bad luck.
- Ganni |
Martin Alvito
If you play the same character in PvE all the time, you're not going to see a ton of gold drops. Just how it is. I've noticed in my discussions with other players that those who say they are "lucky" with their drops distribute their time relatively evenly over a lot of toons, and those that are "unlucky" play one PvE toon exclusively.
Makes sense if you think about it from an anti-botting standpoint. Can't prove conclusively that it's true...but the pattern I've observed has been quite clear.
Makes sense if you think about it from an anti-botting standpoint. Can't prove conclusively that it's true...but the pattern I've observed has been quite clear.
MisterB
It's not too hard to find spots in Hard mode(pun intended) that yeild a gold drop every ~3-5 minutes, or less. That said, if you are trying to get all the rares yourself to max Wisdom, you're doing it wrong. If you really want Wisdom, buy unID's from others.
nyltak
Let me be clearer, I dont want this title to be easy, and i dont want farmers to beable to go into a zone and get 30 rares. But maybe someone can come up an idea to have rares be a reward instead of somthing you buy or farm..
Is doing a mission with real players and getting 7 rares in the run so bad? or does anet prefer that everyone go solo to get the same result?
One way promotes comradory, the other promotes grinding and takes away the point of the title, and basically isnt fun anyway. I mean who cares if you have 10,000 rares id'd if you are a anti social non helpful guild member?
Is doing a mission with real players and getting 7 rares in the run so bad? or does anet prefer that everyone go solo to get the same result?
One way promotes comradory, the other promotes grinding and takes away the point of the title, and basically isnt fun anyway. I mean who cares if you have 10,000 rares id'd if you are a anti social non helpful guild member?
enter_the_zone
Got a gold armor helping a guildy in Thirsty River HM today.
Shockingly, this was in PVE...
Shockingly, this was in PVE...
MithranArkanere
Sure? I made some VAettir to pay Tickets before the Last Canthan new year festival and I got 3..5 golds per run. I even got 3 usable ones out of 30 or so.
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone
Shockingly, this was in PVE...
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englitdaudelin
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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
u're not supposed to earn all titles simply playing the game. why having multiple dozens of titles when just one could do the job?
"i play the game" (1) would be just fine some titles do require time, don't come free |
Oh I so want this title. Throw this idea in Sardelac while you're at it.
It can replace all the nonmaxed titles for which I can't be bothered to farm, grind, id, pvp, pve, mission, or vanquish.
And it can confer absolutely NO benefit to display: No health, no movement buff, no damage buff, no extra energy, no skill, no damage.
7hir7een
Hah, I'd love to know this as well. Of course, the fates of Guild Wars have decided they hate me, and as such anything luck-based I will fail miserably at.
Even then, I still got several golds just through normal play. Now I scarcely see one through a day's worth of play (several hours)
Even then, I still got several golds just through normal play. Now I scarcely see one through a day's worth of play (several hours)
enter_the_zone
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Originally Posted by 7hir7een
Hah, I'd love to know this as well. Of course, the fates of Guild Wars have decided they hate me, and as such anything luck-based I will fail miserably at.
Even then, I still got several golds just through normal play. Now I scarcely see one through a day's worth of play (several hours) |
7hir7een
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone
Do you suffer from the same affliction as me? I like a single toon's play style far more than all the others combined so she gets overused.
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genofreek
My necro was charmed as hell last weekend. I was just doing standard issue Vabbi quests and at least once an hour, some gold dropped. I also got a shitload of dye.
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by nyltak
I have also gotten 7 gold drops in CoF, but that doesnt occur if you do it more then 5 times in a day. how's your math 8000rares/7 = 1142 days == 3 years
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Put all those crappy whites, blues and purples to work. sAme with chalices and rin relics. Sell them, buy golds, get title. hell, get a monk and charge for runs. Take a hero monk for smiter, get a runnee to heal hero, charge 2k a piece that's 21 golds per run plus what gold, rares, and sell loot drops for you. Each run is about 45 minutes if you're good, so you can do more than one in a day. I'd say that cuts your 3 years down to about 6 months.
PinoyRurik
wisdom titles...
arent bots made to do this? give you unids in mass quantity.
you can never earn 10000 unids just by beating the game, even if you beat the game 500+
arent bots made to do this? give you unids in mass quantity.
you can never earn 10000 unids just by beating the game, even if you beat the game 500+
impoc
just curious, I'm out of the farming loop, what is CoF?
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by PinoyRurik
wisdom titles...
arent bots made to do this? give you unids in mass quantity. you can never earn 10000 unids just by beating the game, even if you beat the game 500+ |
to impoc...CoF is cathedral of flames dungeon in GWEN. You can 2-man the entire dungeon in under an hour.
Lady S Shiva
i'm working on this title by myself, that means no money spend no gold unid, so far i got 4.8k, yea, it's kinda slow, but still fun.
Crom The Pale
Titles are meant to be a long term goal, and they are all doable.
If you want to max it fast its going to cost you a fortune, nobody that has it now maxed did so without purchasing at least a few unident items from other players.
When I hit rank 2 I basically gave up myself, just not worth time and effort to try and max that title for me. There is no real benifit attached to that title other than to try and impress others.
If you want to max it fast its going to cost you a fortune, nobody that has it now maxed did so without purchasing at least a few unident items from other players.
When I hit rank 2 I basically gave up myself, just not worth time and effort to try and max that title for me. There is no real benifit attached to that title other than to try and impress others.
Drop of Fear
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
If you want to max it fast its going to cost you a fortune, nobody that has it now maxed did so without purchasing at least a few unident items from other players. |
just run for chests in HM, u'll see your wisdom numbers go up fast
0mar
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
If you play the same character in PvE all the time, you're not going to see a ton of gold drops. Just how it is. I've noticed in my discussions with other players that those who say they are "lucky" with their drops distribute their time relatively evenly over a lot of toons, and those that are "unlucky" play one PvE toon exclusively.
Makes sense if you think about it from an anti-botting standpoint. Can't prove conclusively that it's true...but the pattern I've observed has been quite clear. |
palladia
Gold and green drops from monsters have gotten ridiculously low. For golds, I rarely see more than 1 or 2 a day, and have resorted to buying lockpicks and work on my luck title at the same time. Unfortunately, that probably costs even more than buying unid'ed golds from players.
As for greens, let's not even go there. I recently bought and finished Factions. I completed all missions with master's awards, and probably 95% of quests. Guess what, not a single green has dropped for me.
It's all loot-scaling...
As for greens, let's not even go there. I recently bought and finished Factions. I completed all missions with master's awards, and probably 95% of quests. Guess what, not a single green has dropped for me.
It's all loot-scaling...
mage767
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Titles are meant to be a long term goal, and they are all doable.
If you want to max it fast its going to cost you a fortune, nobody that has it now maxed did so without purchasing at least a few unident items from other players. When I hit rank 2 I basically gave up myself, just not worth time and effort to try and max that title for me. There is no real benifit attached to that title other than to try and impress others. |
MAX wisdom title matters, and is probably one of the harder titles to get.
Next on my list: Grandmaster Treasure Hunter
RhanoctJocosa
those damn communists took them
baz777
I need 50 more for level 4 wisdom. This title, for me at least, just happens in the back ground as I've never bought unident gold items.
The odd farming run like this helps though
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10253459
The odd farming run like this helps though
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10253459
Desbreko
I don't have any trouble finding Rares. I can just warp to my guild hall and there's usually one sitting around.
Seriously though I don't think you're meant to be able to max the Wisdom title without chest running and/or farming a whole lot. (Or buying unIDed rares, but being able to afford that also implies farming.) Obviously that's not for everyone but it provides a long term goal for the people who care to spend the time on it.
Still, with the advent of chests, lockpicks, and HM, rares are more plentiful than ever before.
Seriously though I don't think you're meant to be able to max the Wisdom title without chest running and/or farming a whole lot. (Or buying unIDed rares, but being able to afford that also implies farming.) Obviously that's not for everyone but it provides a long term goal for the people who care to spend the time on it.
Still, with the advent of chests, lockpicks, and HM, rares are more plentiful than ever before.
angmar_nite
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Originally Posted by ImaCharginMahLazor!
Ttitles just show that you play too much. Jus cus u dont have the title doesnt mean ur a nub. Y bother if its going to take a very long time?
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Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by ImaCharginMahLazor!
Ttitles just show that you play too much. Jus cus u dont have the title doesnt mean ur a nub. Y bother if its going to take a very long time?
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I have around 2.2k rares IDed (nearly rank 5) since the title came out, on my main character - too bad it's one of those "unlucky" characters I don't get crap from playing on, rare-wise.
Most of my golds have come from other characters I farm more on (my rit and my monk). I just make the mistakes of IDing some of those on the characters I find them, but in general I'm careful about those.
I might make it a goal of mine to farm for cash to buy some unids (I'm slowly title hunting), but I've got other stuff I want to work on before.
stretchs
I do the glacial farm alot and typically keep only my golds and grapes, sometimes dyes, but really i do the runs 3-5 rinses before i head back to town, lets you fill your inventory full each time, typically 1 keeper drop per 3 full inventories, but tons of mods and whatnot. The time doing that you are able to get a decent amt of golds to work towards a wisdom title, it just gets boring after a while and if you end up with a worm going through bjora you want to throw something at your screen
Tantra Existantance
Well eh, I got r7 chromium shards(w/ crap mods tho) that dropped while Vanquishing Cantha, and Elite Nec tomes & overall about 30 golds while clearing all of Cantha. Most of which were runes, maybe you just have bad luck...we all get a spell of bad luck sometime :P
HawkofStorms
This is the most bogus thing I've ever heard. Period. The drop rate for gold has increased exponentially from every source other then chests.
It took me over 300 hours play time before my first gold droped for me back in Prophecies.
Last night in Urgoz HM, I had 6 golds drop for me in an hour and a half.
Now, chest running is a slow, tedious process, but by just playing the game, golds are easier to get now then ever before.
It took me over 300 hours play time before my first gold droped for me back in Prophecies.
Last night in Urgoz HM, I had 6 golds drop for me in an hour and a half.
Now, chest running is a slow, tedious process, but by just playing the game, golds are easier to get now then ever before.
Mohnzh
I think I agree with HawkofStorms. The only way I got golds fast in Proph was 55ing the troll cave outside Droks, but even that was pretty slow. Now, going through Snowman Dungeon HM with a party full of H&H, I still get anywhere from 1-5 gold drops, plus 3-4 golds from chests, all in 15-20 minutes. Much faster than anything before.
KartMan
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Originally Posted by Lady S Shiva
i'm working on this title by myself, that means no money spend no gold unid, so far i got 4.8k, yea, it's kinda slow, but still fun.
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unienaule
I sat down in my chair sideways the other day and got more gold drops than usual.
Seriously, guys, seriously.
Seriously, guys, seriously.
nyltak
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
This is the most bogus thing I've ever heard. Period. The drop rate for gold has increased exponentially from every source other then chests.
It took me over 300 hours play time before my first gold droped for me back in Prophecies. Last night in Urgoz HM, I had 6 golds drop for me in an hour and a half. Now, chest running is a slow, tedious process, but by just playing the game, golds are easier to get now then ever before. |
Didnt say they werent easy to get. I am saying 10,000 is too many, relative to the time it took me to get legendary everything, What would be the point in running chests for 3 more years? I've already got over 3500 hours played on this one charactor... This game was funner when it was about helping guildees.
here's another math problem for you 90minX6raresX10,000 = 150,000min = 2500 hours. Ok doesnt sound so bad, as long as i dont go to work, sleep or waste time interacting with the world. I can get that done in 100 days.
Have you farmed trolls lately? How many rares you think you ll get?
I am not going to re say what I said above. Go read it.