Mounts

MithranArkanere

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Mounts should be things that give alternate skills and ways of play, like Siege Devourers and Junundu, not the means of getting to places.

Since GW2 will have 'up and down', maybe we could need to fly in some places, sometimes with skills, sometimes with mounts.

Kiragi Yagami

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
... and have sharks as pets. Sharks with frickin' laser beams coming out of their eyes. Is that too much to ask?
/winthread.


i would go with /notsigned, mostly because GW2 is already bordering on the "ZOMGWOWCOPYCAT" level of gameplay decisions, we dont need another wow rip-off.

and just for the hell of it...

NamelessBeauty

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Mounts are not just for map traveling. It can be used for ranger as a pet itself.

For example you can either make it a seperated pet who fight along side with you or make it a mount which give you some speed boost but make you attack slower / cast spell slower.

For those who say it's just a copy of WoW: Game becomes better if the developer knows how to use other games's good features. There is nothing wrong with it. Gamers play some certain games based on certain feature it has. As long as the mojority of gamers like that feature, developer will make profit from making it happen which they will.

Btw, mount for traveling, no sorry.

Mount as something special and/or for showing off (like FoW armor, Mini panda and such.) Yes. It's like minipet, do nothing but something cute/fun in the game.

Mount as some special ability (as talked above) Yes. Though need lots of works on this in order to balance out the game.

kerpall

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I forgot about GW z-axis... That very well makes (useless) flying mounts an option though.

Unless outposts were crazy huge, and required you to have increased speed / fly to get through it, I think mounts should be for Battle purposes only.

Maybe make a selection of skins ,but that doesnt effect stats (like roller beatles. the colour and skin you got didnt affect how fast you went). All these skins would be similarely priced, OR like 5k and 15k armour system. 1 elite skin, for each normal skin. There would be like "Mount Trainers" , to prevent what happened with the mini pets.

Kanyatta

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If there's mounts in GW2, then that most likely means there's no map travel, which most likely means I'm not buying GW2.

I hate fully/mostly-instanced MMORPGs

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
If there's mounts in GW2, then that most likely means there's no map travel, which most likely means I'm not buying GW2.

I hate fully/mostly-instanced MMORPGs
umm, no it doesnt. As stated by several other people, when you see "Mounts", you think for traveling purposes only.

~ Mounts could be anything from "status items" usable only in Outposts.
~ Cosmetic (they dont change your armour, attacks, speed etc. just for looks). Only differents from above is, instead of winning these, they function like armour sets (auto customized, and purchased from a trader). With or without "15k" versions of their "normal" version.
~ Battle purposes (for specific places in Pve ie: seige wurm, seige devourer, etc).
~ Seige purposes in PvP
~ Specific to certain profession (like a ranger simply getting on its pet)
~ etc.

do you see that mounts are not just for travelling purposes?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
Mounts are not just for map traveling. It can be used for ranger as a pet itself.

For example you can either make it a seperated pet who fight along side with you or make it a mount which give you some speed boost but make you attack slower / cast spell slower.

For those who say it's just a copy of WoW: Game becomes better if the developer knows how to use other games's good features. There is nothing wrong with it. Gamers play some certain games based on certain feature it has. As long as the mojority of gamers like that feature, developer will make profit from making it happen which they will.

Btw, mount for traveling, no sorry.

Mount as something special and/or for showing off (like FoW armor, Mini panda and such.) Yes. It's like minipet, do nothing but something cute/fun in the game.

Mount as some special ability (as talked above) Yes. Though need lots of works on this in order to balance out the game.
O.o did you not just see this post 2 posts above yours? Learn to read the thread before posting your ASSumptions.

Kanyatta

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerpall
~ Mounts could be anything from "status items" usable only in Outposts.
E-peener
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerpall
~ Cosmetic (they dont change your armour, attacks, speed etc. just for looks). Only differents from above is, instead of winning these, they function like armour sets (auto customized, and purchased from a trader). With or without "15k" versions of their "normal" version.
E-peener

Quote:
Originally Posted by kerpall
~ Battle purposes (for specific places in Pve ie: seige wurm, seige devourer, etc).
~ Seige purposes in PvP
~ Specific to certain profession (like a ranger simply getting on its pet)
Sure, lets reward grinders in a game thats marketing strategy is "Skill > Time"
I can see that happening... Oh... wait....

Quote:
Originally Posted by kerpall
do you see that mounts are not just for travelling purposes?
No

NamelessBeauty

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerpall
umm, no it doesnt. As stated by several other people, when you see "Mounts", you think for traveling purposes only.

~ Mounts could be anything from "status items" usable only in Outposts.
~ Cosmetic (they dont change your armour, attacks, speed etc. just for looks). Only differents from above is, instead of winning these, they function like armour sets (auto customized, and purchased from a trader). With or without "15k" versions of their "normal" version.
~ Battle purposes (for specific places in Pve ie: seige wurm, seige devourer, etc).
~ Seige purposes in PvP
~ Specific to certain profession (like a ranger simply getting on its pet)
~ etc.

do you see that mounts are not just for travelling purposes?

Added:

O.o did you not just see this post 2 posts above yours? Learn to read the thread before posting your ASSumptions.
It's either you use the wrong word (assumption) or you are smoking crack!

Quote:
Mounts should be things that give alternate skills and ways of play, like Siege Devourers and Junundu, not the means of getting to places.

Since GW2 will have 'up and down', maybe we could need to fly in some places, sometimes with skills, sometimes with mounts.
Is that the same as mine? Learn how to read plz. There's nothing similar to what I say!

kerpall

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@ Nameless, i wasnt talknig to you, it was directed at Kanyatta ... ( your post, is 2 posts above hers/his .. -_- )

@ Kanyatta, if you took the time to read the rest of the thread, you would have noticed i posted these links several times, just for those of you with the inability of taknig 2 minutes to read other posts.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Iron_Legion
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_PvP

That covers the "proffession" aspect, and the "pvp" aspect.

NamelessBeauty

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lol you quoted mine without note lol! Srry!

kerpall

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srry bout that , np ^^ . was my fault

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

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So I dont offend anyone ill keep my answer short and sweet. NO

Celestial_Kitsune

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
... and have sharks as pets. Sharks with frickin' laser beams coming out of their eyes. Is that too much to ask?
Not really, Gaile just confirmed it!

MithranArkanere

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XDD
Ok, ok, pull toghether yourselves.

There are ALREADY mounts in GW:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Junundu
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Siege_Devourer
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Giant_Herder
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Master
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Stone_Summit_Arcanist

Are they for traveling around? No, they just are 'forms' or 'disguises' they change the whole set of skills.

That is the only possible example of mounts we can find in GW and the only that would work.
Area-dependent creatures you can 'mount' to play as another creature.

Wouldn't be nice to be able to mount a Dolyak after killing the Dolyak rider like we already do with Siege Devourers?

Since in GW there will be 'up and down' unlike GW, maybe there could be some areas where you need to reach a floating stone.
Then you can use things like the Kurzick Wallow wheel-powered cable way or a flying mount.

Imagine to ride a dragon:
- Talk to dragon.
- Mount.
- Now in 'dragon rider' from.
- Skills changes to dragon rider build: Firebreath, etc...
- Movement type changes now to 'flying creature' and you can use the jump and crouch buttons to move up and down.

Bu then, if you leave the areas where that dragon is allowed, or map away, you lose it, like with the Siege Devourer.

HawkofStorms

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We have a winner. I was about to post the same thing.

With the Junundu and Seige Devourers, we already have the "mounts for fighting" people are demanding already in game. Yet people aren't happy with that and continue to demand more. Why? Because the real reason you want them is for travelling. If you say it isn't, then why are you insisting on adding something that already exists to the game?

creelie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by l Batman l
I just want to ride a yak.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Go go Bear Cavalry!
So long as mounts don't replace map travel or give a grind-based competitive advantage, I'm all for them. Increasing the number of yaks and bears in a game is never a bad decision.

gremlin

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Mounts would be good and bad for the players.

Good for pose value faster movement and possibly special attacks.

Bad because the enemy would have them too.

If I can have a skeletal mount for my necro then im all for it.

MithranArkanere

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Enemies having them is good too...


...if you can steal the mounts from after killing them.

N1ghtstalker

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wowowow
those things are used for handling lots of enemies
junundu 'n such got lots of power too
if there are lots of those things farming will just be too easy -.-
it's like ursan, prefering something stupid over skill
/notsigned
even for transport or such
map travel ftw

Snow Bunny

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I just want to ride Malice Black O.o Gud mount

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Go and play WoW...YAY!

MithranArkanere

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And there could be mules like in Dungeon Siege.

Living bags to carry stuff, XDDD.

newbie_of_doom

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Mounts r teh stupid. Why would u want a horse or donkey or w/e if you can teleport .... WTF

kerpall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by newbie_of_doom
Mounts r teh stupid. Why would u want a horse or donkey or w/e if you can teleport .... WTF
i'm not going to even argue with this incredibly stupid, unthought out post...

*cough* if you read ANY previous posts , you would get a list one million times the size of your brain, full of other reasons than for travelling. (maybe bout a page long of reasons, if you get what i mean) *cough*

halcyonbiscuit

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Mounts would be kind of cool, but only if they were only usable in explorable areas and didn't give any kind of bonus, and if map travel was still implemented.

VexedLucifer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
If they want mounts they should bugger off to WoW. GW already clones WoW enough. (yes, I'm aware WoW wasn't the first to do mounts, but it's GW closest rival)
Sorry mate Lord of the Rings Online is the new rival of WoW.

Kiragi Yagami

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VexedLucifer
Sorry mate Lord of the Rings Online is the new rival of WoW.
QFT.

ive got 1 friend thats a WoW-aholic, and one thats a LOTRO fangirl. they argue CONSTANTLY about which is better. i usually stay out of those arguments cause they BOTH think GW is a ripoff of BOTH of them, even though it came WAAY before LOTRO.

newbie_of_doom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerpall
i'm not going to even argue with this incredibly stupid, unthought out post...

*cough* if you read ANY previous posts , you would get a list one million times the size of your brain, full of other reasons than for travelling. (maybe bout a page long of reasons, if you get what i mean) *cough*
The only reasons are a new profession (Ye I see myself pvping with a mesmer vs. a Horseman......) and to be looking cool. Care imo.

MithranArkanere

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Quote:
Originally Posted by newbie_of_doom
The only reasons are a new profession (Ye I see myself pvping with a mesmer vs. a Horseman......) and to be looking cool. Care imo.
Only?

- Area-exclusive events. Like:
*A pillar that can be only pulled down with a certain mount.
*Or an island or floating rock inside an area only reachable with a certain mount.
*Or an enemy that can only be damage with the attacks of a certain mount.
*Or a mission that must be done while riding a certain mount.

There may be a lot of reasons. You only have to think a bit.

Azael Durge

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Enemies having them is good too...


...if you can steal the mounts from after killing them.
MID AIR BATTLES!

Can you imagine it? Flying around on a dragon/pheonix/unicorn/other cheesy animal and having to dive and soar in order to dodge attacks!

In my opinion though mounts should be raised, find an egg/pup deep on your treks and you raise it much like a hero, i also enjoy the idea of being able to buy armour for it or take it to a groomer and get its hair cut and dyed or scales glossed.

Just another outlet for our creativity and a chance to say,
"Do you like our matching 15k norn armour?"
"Its lovely! Now can we please divebomb that charr regitment?"

Painbringer

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As long As they make a troll for me to sit on top of his shoulders like Master Blaster

Honestly I hope the do have a few Just a horse would be cool

creelie

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I want to ride a yak and wield The Yakslapper.

If any green migrates into GW2, it should be that one.

kerpall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azael Durge
MID AIR BATTLES!

Can you imagine it? Flying around on a dragon/pheonix/unicorn/other cheesy animal and having to dive and soar in order to dodge attacks!

In my opinion though mounts should be raised, find an egg/pup deep on your treks and you raise it much like a hero, i also enjoy the idea of being able to buy armour for it or take it to a groomer and get its hair cut and dyed or scales glossed.

Just another outlet for our creativity and a chance to say,
"Do you like our matching 15k norn armour?"
"Its lovely! Now can we please divebomb that charr regitment?"
I like that idea of raising a mount. You get liek an egg, and (either a random mount, or certain mount for certain eggs) would hath. And you do sort of a scavenger hunt quest , or wait a week or so for it to hatch / grow.
The only solution to having mounts be cheaply available (and not liek current mini's) would to have them Customized at birth (as soon as it hatches, you can no longer sell/trade). Of course if unhappy, you could "dis own" it, and restart process, or keep the one you got.

Jackita

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GW2 Companions

The system of companions and allies is being reworked. Companions will have customization similar to Heroes. Players will be allowed to bring a single companion with them, who will not take up a party slot and are considered an extension of the character. When a player chooses not to bring a companion, their character will instead be buffed so that they will not be disadvantaged by not bringing a companion.
Your Mount

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I'd go either way, but I don't see this as something we need. Seriously, if you're just looking for a game that implements anything that's just "pwnage", you're in the wrong franchise. Can't there be one game that doesn't add things because they're "l33t"?

Kanyatta

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Basically, the argument that mounts could double as sieges or things for PvP battles is completely irrelevant, because there's no way it would ever happen. So, there are only 2 logical reasons mounts would be added.

1. Traveling
2. Really big minipets

Since we already have map travel, that eliminates option number 1.

I think you get my point.

kerpall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackita
Your Mount
you could very well be right...
Maybe that Monument (the one u put pets and heroes in) will provide you with a special "mount" or "companion" . Just for those of us that played GW1 .

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Basically, the argument that mounts could double as sieges or things for PvP battles is completely irrelevant, because there's no way it would ever happen. So, there are only 2 logical reasons mounts would be added.
Since we already have map travel, that eliminates option number 1.

I think you get my point.
You right, your (personal) mount would not double as seige units, but thats not what we are getting at.
Mounts would be added for the sole purpose of Seige units (that would be mounted during that battle like a seige devourer. not somthing you own, but that is out there for anyone to use).

However mounted pvp, is Not completely out of the question. GW team said they wanted to add crazy new things to guildwars, and that its just a waste to add to GW1. That alone leaves anyone's (constructive) idea's possible.

Saying "These XXXX so and so, Will Never be Added" is simply unprovable at this moment in time. You can be "Destructive" and take down everyone's new ideas. However you'll look like an awful jerk-off when gw2 comes out with whatever ideas that you put down .

Performance Pudding

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as far as i know there will be some instanced stuff and some persistant areas so map travel and mounts would rock why not have both anyway more content is better

Konig Des Todes

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1) excluding what the stone summit ride....what is there to ride? there are no horses seen or anything in the game, unless I have just not noticed.
2)in a way, we already have 2 mounts, Siege Devourers and Junudun Wurms.
3)pointless with map travel, although for gw2, might not be a bad idea.
4)to many noobs will try to show them off.

/notsigned at least with the suggestions I have read.

Jette Antral

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I'd like it if your minipets dedicated in your GW1 account's hall of monuments "grew up" while you were gone, and they became ridable for your characters in GW2. Ridable Mallyx!