The Art of Underworld

the_doode

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Croatia

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I have one question please and I don't think it was answered or shown on vids.. Ice Wastes; 1st Smite mobs; 1st or 2nd group are sometimes killing eachother, do you maybe know on what that depends and how to stop it or whatever? Cos it seems rather annoying to aggro few mobs that will kill each other
Thx, and again...awesome guide

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_doode
I have one question please and I don't think it was answered or shown on vids.. Ice Wastes; 1st Smite mobs; 1st or 2nd group are sometimes killing eachother, do you maybe know on what that depends and how to stop it or whatever? Cos it seems rather annoying to aggro few mobs that will kill each other
Thx, and again...awesome guide Oh yes it happens sometimes, the player has no influence on that, I suggest you just wait until they stop fighting before continuing to aggro

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

Very nice work of you 2.... I think we have 2 new GOD's of the UW

Gonna try soon, when I found the time..... GJ again.

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

I have noticed some pics have started going down. I will be moving from ImageShack to Picoodle as they go down. If one seems down, PM me about it and I will reupload it.

monk of the godss

monk of the godss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Melbourne, Australia

All Hail The P I N K [BeVr]

A/E

i tryed this yesterday and we were going to do the chaos planes only including the ones needed.
We failed on the lightning creatures on the serpent mountains.

If anybody could please do this with me please whisper me

ingame name: monk of the godss

spirit of defeat

spirit of defeat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Holland

Rt/

still missing the RT.....

teng

teng

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

USA, WI

Vanguard Elite Troopers

P/W

damn man i cant imagine what you had to go through to finally finish uw run and all those failed attempts+writing the guide. many thanks for guide :P

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

lol the guide sounds like "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

R/

i've been looking for a definitive guide like this. great job! Thanks.

Trevor The Wave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

This Is Ukraine [UA]

E/Me

Can you please tell me the music you used in your videos? .

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

Very great guide! Could it be possible to do this in HM?

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Hey for all these questions about HM - The only problem is the AI (RED ENGINE GO>3 melee monsters = some run away) - the quests can be done in same way. We have an idea which we will be trying this afternoon if possible (although I'm a bit sick - it's my second night with no sleep in 3 days!) and we will be testing it over the weekend.

I'll keep you updated! (If it works, I'll update the guide) But I still prefer NM

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

Awesome work. Definitely worth the wait.

tox_169

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Auckland, New Zealand

Very definitive guide, and just the thing to read up on for my planned UW excursions.

Thank you, your guide was definitely worth the wait.

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
...But I still prefer NM
For UW
NM pwns HM
and I will stick to that at alll costs

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by spirit of defeat
still missing the RT..... Zero reason to take one over a Necro.

Krab

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Hate The [Cape]

A/E

This awesome thing made me make my long wanted necro finally, and I'm trying it out slowly with Seth, who is your most devoted worshipper Cerb. It's perfectly written, and oh, the detail. Well, now to read it once more, i still keep failing at the mindblades. They all interrupt, migraine, rush on me, boohoo, death, gg. Oh, and one last thing... Lovely bestiary.

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krab
This awesome thing made me make my long wanted necro finally, and I'm trying it out slowly with Seth, who is your most devoted worshipper Cerb. It's perfectly written, and oh, the detail. Well, now to read it once more, i still keep failing at the mindblades. They all interrupt, migraine, rush on me, boohoo, death, gg. Oh, and one last thing... Lovely bestiary. If you don't have 16 in DF and don't have 20% enchant weapon, you will not be able to keep SB up indefinately. If you still have problems, you can watch the videos for Chaos Planes

Krab

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Hate The [Cape]

A/E

We've just owned the escort of souls now, so dw. I'm the SS, i dont care about some DF.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces



The second slot is because I had a 15^50 Stormbow and wanted to do pro damage. It isn't actually used on the run.

I hate HM, and I hate the lameness that it entails. I hate how stupid smite is as a damage source, that requires you to go afk. I hate Underworld too, for being so boring.

Run took about 3h40. A lot of the areas are actually easier because of the innate attack speed - Horsemen/Demon assassin/Terrorweb queen are all much quicker, as is taking down mobs where you wouldn't usually use reckless (the mountain).

Peace.

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Left GW

Proud Member of : Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

W/

Impressive

Desman

Desman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Me/

Why there arent any this kind of mesmer thingys (expect Dopefishes) respect guys

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Desman
Why there arent any this kind of mesmer thingys (expect Dopefishes) respect guys I wrote a guide showing how the Chamber/Vale/Smites/Unwanted could be cleared over two years ago for Mesmer, but many things have changed since then.

The major issue for a full run is Mesmers don't get as much duration on SoA (can't chain it properly) or an effective way to cover from spells. You could run a Mesmer for damage, I suppose, but it would be slower.

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Exellent guide just what i needed to inspire me to brush off the farming gear ond enter the underworld again.

Another thing Just curious but how long did it take you to complete the quests on the full run in this post here :: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...53&postcount=5 That is very, very impressive i wish my 55 partner was a tad beter "dont tell him i said that" now that i have seen it with my own eyes i might just give a clearout a go with a friend and see how it goes...

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
Exellent guide just what i needed to inspire me to brush off the farming gear ond enter the underworld again.

Another thing Just curious but how long did it take you to complete the quests on the full run in this post here :: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...53&postcount=5 That is very, very impressive i wish my 55 partner was a tad beter "dont tell him i said that" now that i have seen it with my own eyes i might just give a clearout a go with a friend and see how it goes... I cleared UW 3 times, two in NM and one in HM. NM took around 4 hours (could easily take this down to around 3:30), and HM took 3:45

You could probably do either NM or HM in 3:30, but you have to run a different build for HM (see A Simple Farmer's thread about UW in this forum for the HM build)

---- UPDATE: I am currently working on a project called "The Mists" which will be a PvE-oriented website where we will host the most high quality guides, and post articles and keep everything up to date. We will also host competitive PvE events such as farming tournaments, speed runs etc. I am working hard on that website and once it is up, I will make a major update to this guide, by talking about 600/Smite builds and Hard Mode (55/SS is still more effective in NM, but impossible in HM). Also I will rewrite some sections (like Bone Pits and Four Horsemen). Stay tuned!

Delightful Shaz

Delightful Shaz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Netherlands

R/Rt

Awesome tnx alot i will try this out. _O_

Warriorsrmint

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

Wow, good guide, if i ever have 4 hours spare ill give this a go.

RadeonDJ9600

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

Absolutely brilliant, I love your guides Cerb...

I've cleared the Chaos Planes a couple times in the past, using 600/Smite and 55/SS, but I have yet to completely clear the UW. Looks like I'll be phoning up some old UW buddies to see if they're interested in piling up some ecto.

A quick question regarding Four Horsemen: Do the Dhuum Brothers act like bosses in that they have half hex duration?

Edit: any chance of adding a track list

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RadeonDJ9600
Absolutely brilliant, I love your guides Cerb...

I've cleared the Chaos Planes a couple times in the past, using 600/Smite and 55/SS, but I have yet to completely clear the UW. Looks like I'll be phoning up some old UW buddies to see if they're interested in piling up some ecto.

A quick question regarding Four Horsemen: Do the Dhuum Brothers act like bosses in that they have half hex duration?

Edit: any chance of adding a track list Thanks

Yes, bosses in UW (Dhuums, Slayer, Terrorweb Queen) have half hex duration, but they do not give a morale boost or they recharge skills.

About music I guess you would have to name some videos because there are quite a lot of songs

Khanduras

Khanduras

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Inside

East Elona Trading Company [etc]

E/

Very impressive guide. Thank you!

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Nice work cerb I see that you tend to favour the /Mes or /R and not /N or /W.I really wished I was good as you as I get nervous about going down there with complete stranger and the 1K if we die.I need a good partner.

I don't know the UW as good as you do never been through the whole place.

Glints Bane

Glints Bane

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I sleep

The Almond Brothers [Bros]

N/

Just got back into guild wars and wanted to say that your work rivals that of the old Undead Preacher and God Like Satan.....Amazing Job!!!

Neco Coneco

Neco Coneco

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

All I can say is wow. Fantastic job, I enjoyed reading this. I liked what you did with the bestiary

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

awesome guide how long it take u

Bahamuth

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

I have a question. Let´s say I just want to farm ecto´s and not complete all quests in UW, where would you suggest going to? Just regular Smite run? Thanks.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahamuth
I have a question. Let´s say I just want to farm ecto´s and not complete all quests in UW, where would you suggest going to? Just regular Smite run? Thanks. Clear the chamber and then the smites (along with Ice King quest). There's a video of that somewhere among cerb's stuff.

It's A Me

It's A Me

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
About music I guess you would have to name some videos because there are quite a lot of songs nice guide, definately dont have the time to try it out but I can use certain bits from it. Keep up the excellent work and gl on your site.

Oh, btw, Send Me On My way by rusted root (lamest band ever) but that has to be one of the catchiest songs ever, if u use it in a vid ill give u a coockie

clarke

clarke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legendary Drunks [LEET]

R/

Great guide, you must have tons of ectos haha

Lookin forward to the website

max_rulez

max_rulez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Fallit Imago [Fi]

W/

Simply Just Awesome

Tzalaran

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Lincoln, NE

{MERC}

P/

i have a question regarding equipment used by the necro... i understand the uses for the wand and offhand, and that the weapon and shield are for the 4 horsemen quest primarily.

regarding the staff. i currently have the stonereaper for curses builds and an insightful shadow staff of enchanting q9 Blood when i'm a BiP. will the combination of those two staves work for the one you suggest in the guide?

could i switch to the weapon of enchanting when casting BR on the 55 and then use the stonereaper for everything else?

thanks for all the hard work done by everyone who contributed to this guide. it has made my runs 4 times as successful and we've been able to complete unwanted guests, escort of souls, and servants of Grenth quests, free the reaper of ice and forgotten Vale, and get into the chaos wastes every run.