What is up with the free treasure boxes? I dont get them at all..
I havnt played my paragon in atleast 4 months.. and so I decided to check out the free treasure boxes. all purples all small amounts of gold, yet my guildie can run the boxes once a month on the dot and make 3k for the Domain of pain ones, and get rares every time.. all the way down to the ones on the noobie island..
and he just got a req 8 (GOLD) Inscr Eagle Defender out of it..
and so I run my monk on them, and its been a month.. I got one gold item a diamond and purples.. I dont get it.. what is the time or secret to these things? I know its not experinced based cause I got over 10 million XP on my monk since the last time I ran treasure chests...
anyone have ANY insight into how they work?
What is the Secret behind free treasure?
Chestnut
stretchs
Randomness. It's like pulling a slot machine, ya just never know.
Or gw just hates you.
Or gw just hates you.
Grasping Darkness
the more you open them within a short period of time the more it decreases the item rarity
like if i havent opened them in 6 months and then i decide to run all those chests on all of my toons in 1 day the item rarity will decrease rapidly but if i was to spread out the time between opening them the item rarity would stay high
like if i havent opened them in 6 months and then i decide to run all those chests on all of my toons in 1 day the item rarity will decrease rapidly but if i was to spread out the time between opening them the item rarity would stay high
stretchs
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the more you open them within a short period of time the more it decreases the item rarity
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Chestnut
Is it based on account or char?
Grasping Darkness
oh...i skim read the op's thread. it does seem like he is getting hosed.
also i cant open them but once every like 2-3 months. there may be a trigger
also i cant open them but once every like 2-3 months. there may be a trigger
Pleikki
For first 3-4 times you get mostly golds after that you only got badder and badder and badder items So only purples + low amount of cash its normal
Chestnut
So it doesnt go back to golds again?
Even if you wait long amounts of time?
Even if you wait long amounts of time?
MithranArkanere
It seems that no one knows. Maybe not even the game programmers, XDDD.
- Most people get them recharged after 30 days... but some after less, and some after more.
- For most people they get worse and worse the more you open them.
- Hard mode seems not to affect at all the Treasure drop.
- Monster spawns nearest to the Treasures seems to, you'll get drops of creatures in the area, and if a quest makes some other cratures spawn near the treasure, the drops may change.
There are other factors that some people think that may affect the drop rates:
- Playing in full parties and never faming.
- Some people claim that opening them with more characters affect the overall drops, making those that oepend them more get even worse drops.
For me it's like that.
- Most people get them recharged after 30 days... but some after less, and some after more.
- For most people they get worse and worse the more you open them.
- Hard mode seems not to affect at all the Treasure drop.
- Monster spawns nearest to the Treasures seems to, you'll get drops of creatures in the area, and if a quest makes some other cratures spawn near the treasure, the drops may change.
There are other factors that some people think that may affect the drop rates:
- Playing in full parties and never faming.
- Some people claim that opening them with more characters affect the overall drops, making those that oepend them more get even worse drops.
For me it's like that.
Tarkin
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What is up with the free treasure boxes? I dont get them at all..
I havnt played my paragon in atleast 4 months.. and so I decided to check out the free treasure boxes. all purples all small amounts of gold, yet my guildie can run the boxes once a month on the dot and make 3k for the Domain of pain ones, and get rares every time.. all the way down to the ones on the noobie island.. and he just got a req 8 (GOLD) Inscr Eagle Defender out of it.. and so I run my monk on them, and its been a month.. I got one gold item a diamond and purples.. I dont get it.. what is the time or secret to these things? I know its not experinced based cause I got over 10 million XP on my monk since the last time I ran treasure chests... anyone have ANY insight into how they work? |
I have 10 chars... when treasures come to the game i open all treasures with all my char in a row, get something like 95% golds 5% purples, 170k<>190k, the treasures are reset and i get again 95% golds 5% purples, 170k<>190k in a row, but in a further update they (desenvolpers) nerfed treasures...
Now they work like normal chest...
How normal chests work? My personal exp say the acount have a (gold drops)/(hours play) mecanics... if you get a good gold drop rate from mobs in y time, if you open a chest you will have less chances of a gold from it... if you get few gold drops you have a good chance of a gold drop from chest...
Lots of ppls will say you kiding? You wrong man...
Why this true?
First time i get 13 purples in the same char in a row i see i cursed...
Dont open no more chest with no more chars...
How i made to open the treasures and get the golds? and good gold rewards? Play the game normaly, if i play for a big time and dont get gold drops i logout get a char and open the treasures if the first one is gold i still opening while i dont get a purple drop, if i get a purple drop i stop, and go back to play the game normaly...
Sometime ago before the realease of GWEN i dont use lockpits (now i use lockpits in any chest i find (for treasure, lucky and wisdon title (dont say a stupid waster money, this the only titles wort something real in the game))),
now i get my (gold drop)/(time play) 100% time... i make one try for month to open the treasures, evey try i get purples... last time i open my all my treasures is something like 6 months ago...
Sorry my weak english...
Damm i forget the great tip... if you open the treasures in the day they are reset you get 100% gold drops for the first char you use to open... dont mather my logic about (gold drops)/(play time)...
creelie
For my characters the treasures have lots of money and gold items the first 2-3 times I open them, and then a smaller amount of money and purple items after that, regardless of what's happening in any other character's chests. I try to open everything I can whenever I can because hey, free stuff.
It may be that the OP's friend is using "fresh" treasures every time by taking a string of new characters through NF.
It may be that the OP's friend is using "fresh" treasures every time by taking a string of new characters through NF.
Tarkin
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It seems that no one knows. Maybe not even the game programmers, XDDD.
- Most people get them recharged after 30 days... but some after less, and some after more. |
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- For most people they get worse and worse the more you open them.
- Hard mode seems not to affect at all the Treasure drop. |
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There are other factors that some people think that may affect the drop rates:
- Playing in full parties and never faming. - Some people claim that opening them with more characters affect the overall drops, making those that oepend them more get even worse drops. |
majikmajikmajik
its just Random, close this thread before people get the wrong idea...
stretchs
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its just Random, close this thread before people get the wrong idea...
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Tarkin
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its just Random, close this thread before people get the wrong idea...
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Signed, close this thread before people get the wrong idea...
{IceFire}
i think this is account based
i only open them on 1 char, its boring anyway
i only open them on 1 char, its boring anyway
truemyths
It sounds like one way to go would be to open the harder ones first, i.e., the Domain ones on each run.
Since most folks agree the more you open the worse they get and the harder to get ones give more $/better drops, the payoff would be in opening those ones with the best chance of rare items first.
Since most folks agree the more you open the worse they get and the harder to get ones give more $/better drops, the payoff would be in opening those ones with the best chance of rare items first.
Brianna
My Ele's chests won't reset, haven't for 6 months. My friend's won't either, on her Ele, so I don't really know, but it aggravates me to some degree.
My other chars usually get purples/golds depending on how many times I've opened them on that char, my warrior basically only gets purples now.
My other chars usually get purples/golds depending on how many times I've opened them on that char, my warrior basically only gets purples now.
Longasc
It is not random.
The minimum time you have to wait is 30 days.
Sometimes chests do not reset for a char for months, happened to my Necro.
But my other chars can open chests exactly 30 days later. Do not know why. My necro is back to the normal 30 days now, too.
The quality of the drops decreases each run: After several full passes, I do not get a single gold anymore. During the 4th run I had some golds for the first few chests and from then on it was only purple.
The time between openings theory is popular, but yet unproven. But it has a system, it is not random. Maybe there is a random chance involved, but it has a system.
The minimum time you have to wait is 30 days.
Sometimes chests do not reset for a char for months, happened to my Necro.
But my other chars can open chests exactly 30 days later. Do not know why. My necro is back to the normal 30 days now, too.
The quality of the drops decreases each run: After several full passes, I do not get a single gold anymore. During the 4th run I had some golds for the first few chests and from then on it was only purple.
The time between openings theory is popular, but yet unproven. But it has a system, it is not random. Maybe there is a random chance involved, but it has a system.
Sir Pandra Pierva
honestly it all depends on account in my latest experience.
my warrior only opened them once got the worst drops in history
didnt even make 5k from all the gold dropping.....my ele who has opened em like 20 times now got some nice stuff
it all depends i think
cuase the first time i opened them on my warrior i got mostly rubies dropping out of them. man that was nice
my warrior only opened them once got the worst drops in history
didnt even make 5k from all the gold dropping.....my ele who has opened em like 20 times now got some nice stuff
it all depends i think
cuase the first time i opened them on my warrior i got mostly rubies dropping out of them. man that was nice
enter_the_zone
Worst I've had was about 4 months between resets. Opened the first (in reverse order, so furthest into NF), got a grape. I gave up at that point and went back to FOW/UW/Bergen/anything but that crap.
cosyfiep
ok my 2cents.
My characters: some have finished nf, some have not---the ones that have NOT still seem to get good drops from the chests, the ones that did finish--grapes and very little gold.
Case in point---my female monk had just completed killing abbadon and obtained margrid---did dasha mission, then went back in to get the treasure- grape and LESS than 1plat
. Also she was capping the monk elite in domain of pain--there is a chest there---1st time....grape and 1plat and a few gold more 
since then I have not opened any chests with her....
I also have a few characters I have just not felt like getting thru the rest of nf (got them to vabbi) they do the lyss and highlands ones---get gold and almost max gold each time.
Needless to say if I need gold or to id gold weapons I use those characters to get it...the others who have finished nf just seem to get junk (even after waiting for 3+ months---forgot about a few of them and went back to do them all --all junk grapes and less plat than before).
My characters: some have finished nf, some have not---the ones that have NOT still seem to get good drops from the chests, the ones that did finish--grapes and very little gold.
Case in point---my female monk had just completed killing abbadon and obtained margrid---did dasha mission, then went back in to get the treasure- grape and LESS than 1plat
. Also she was capping the monk elite in domain of pain--there is a chest there---1st time....grape and 1plat and a few gold more since then I have not opened any chests with her....I also have a few characters I have just not felt like getting thru the rest of nf (got them to vabbi) they do the lyss and highlands ones---get gold and almost max gold each time.
Needless to say if I need gold or to id gold weapons I use those characters to get it...the others who have finished nf just seem to get junk (even after waiting for 3+ months---forgot about a few of them and went back to do them all --all junk grapes and less plat than before).
Bowstring Badass
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For first 3-4 times you get mostly golds after that you only got badder and badder and badder items So only purples + low amount of cash its normal
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Or everyone is running them on multiple characters I found that running on multiple characters kills the drops on them to.
Nyktos
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If 13 golds drops in a row or 13 purples in a row are random...
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Phaern Majes
Heh, some of my characters aren't resetting monthly A couple still do, rather odd if you ask me. I just figure its free, so can't complain if it doesn't always work. Not like I spent 50k on keys only to find the chests didn't open.
A couple still do, rather odd if you ask me. I just figure its free, so can't complain if it doesn't always work. Not like I spent 50k on keys only to find the chests didn't open.
AnnaCloud9
Your Elona chests work on a per-character basis, not account.
Your drops and money earned from them are not dependant on how long you wait between runs.
Your drops are dependant on the frequency, per character, of the specific chest you open.
You will see gradual diminishing returns per character, upon each successive opening of a specific chest.
Revisiting chests is possible after a minimum 28 day cycle, upwards to 35 day cycle.
Your drops and money earned from them are not dependant on how long you wait between runs.
Your drops are dependant on the frequency, per character, of the specific chest you open.
You will see gradual diminishing returns per character, upon each successive opening of a specific chest.
Revisiting chests is possible after a minimum 28 day cycle, upwards to 35 day cycle.
Angelica
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For first 3-4 times you get mostly golds after that you only got badder and badder and badder items So only purples + low amount of cash its normal
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I open several chests for the first time (I mean never been there before) and I got purple items (craps).
I would like to know why? Because I was told that the first time you get a gold item for sure.
Bad luck doesn't really explain this or ...... does it?
MithranArkanere
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Not true!
I open several chests for the first time (I mean never been there before) and I got purple items (craps). I would like to know why? Because I was told that the first time you get a gold item for sure. Bad luck doesn't really explain this or ...... does it? |
Cacheelma
It's random, and your friend (who told you he gets gold from all chests once a month) lied.
You can't see me
Counter to Urban Legends, I don't think anything effects them other than steady decline of value in items given. I don't bother to grab them anymore. I could make that cash and more in the time spent getting them all.
Shakti
Agree with you cant see me. The only variable I have found is how often that char has opened that particular chest. I have multiple chars gettin' em all as does my husband. Both of us will take a couple hrs grabbing em al with each char when they've reset. The ones who've done it a bunch get crap. The ones who are "new" to a chest get gold....
Washi
Urban Legends ftw LOL.
It's unbelievable how people can come up with stories to explain why they are lucky or unlucky.
It's random, kthxbye.
It's unbelievable how people can come up with stories to explain why they are lucky or unlucky.
It's random, kthxbye.
enter_the_zone
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Urban Legends ftw LOL.
It's unbelievable how people can come up with stories to explain why they are lucky or unlucky. It's random, kthxbye. |
BenjZee
I find that if you click on a treasure earlier than 1 month of the opening you will end up resetting the timer. However, the longer i wait the better the drop may be. It could just be random but i left all treasures and open the Realm of torment ones. I used to get a nice reward each time (max money about 3.5k)...but now i got two max purples on my main character.
I have a weird routine where the first half of the month half of my characters start from the Realm of torment and every day open a new chest. Then the ot half of the characters do this on the next half of the month. It seems to be a pretty good technique to make sure you dont overuse a particular chest.
ya never know...it could infact be random
I have a weird routine where the first half of the month half of my characters start from the Realm of torment and every day open a new chest. Then the ot half of the characters do this on the next half of the month. It seems to be a pretty good technique to make sure you dont overuse a particular chest.
ya never know...it could infact be random
hallomik
My experience:
I usually wait a couple of months between checks. I don't plan it like that. I just forget about them until I come across a thread like this.
I have only ever gotten golds or gems until recently. About half-way thru running the chests on my monk, they switched to purple and then stayed purple for that character for the rest of the run.
I usually wait a couple of months between checks. I don't plan it like that. I just forget about them until I come across a thread like this.
I have only ever gotten golds or gems until recently. About half-way thru running the chests on my monk, they switched to purple and then stayed purple for that character for the rest of the run.
pheobz
i usually forget about them until see 1 while out on a killing spree but recently out with a few guildies and the burried treaure in mirror of lyss dropped in this order: purple, gold, purple.
drops of any sort is random, y would there be a stratergy behing the treasure chests?
drops of any sort is random, y would there be a stratergy behing the treasure chests?
ZenRgy
On my necro (my main) I got decent drops, that was awhile ago - I never use my necro to farm nor do I open the chest frequently anymore and now the drops are significantly worse (purples, <1k gold).
The time between when I recently opened it and when I last did would be at least 2+ months.
The time between when I recently opened it and when I last did would be at least 2+ months.
Traveller
For every theory about the Elonian treasures, there is one person with a counter-theory to debunk the previously mentioned theory. Seriously, I've stopped trying to use logic with them a long time ago and just open them every now and then.
BogusDude
Yeh for those saying for some of their chars don't reset every month its because your checking the chest too early and ultimately resetting the timer for that char, so if you check 1 day too early you've got a whole month to wait again.
The fact that the timer reset is defo character based suggests any variable related to the drops is also character based rather than account.
Best to use something like beginning or end of the month as a benchmark as to when they're ready. I know mine reset at the beginning of the month and do them all at once on all my chars.
The fact that the timer reset is defo character based suggests any variable related to the drops is also character based rather than account.
Best to use something like beginning or end of the month as a benchmark as to when they're ready. I know mine reset at the beginning of the month and do them all at once on all my chars.
therangereminem
the more you open them the worse they get my ranger opens them every 45 days and hasnt gotten a gold in 10 months, my monk also
it seems once you open the chest more then 5 times no matter how long you wait you geta purple over 10 you get unmaxed purples, i hoping for blue next lol
it seems once you open the chest more then 5 times no matter how long you wait you geta purple over 10 you get unmaxed purples, i hoping for blue next lol