suggestions on scythe mods?

Takonic

Takonic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

[TFA] The Forsaken Allegience

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so I made my dervish a while back, but never gotten serious about her...but she is fun again! ...but she needs a scythe.....any suggestions on some good scythe mods to look at ..?

she currently using

+5 nrg
Zealous
Fortitude scythe...

I hear 20/20 enchant20% are good too but..not sure...need some insight! thanks!

Kyrein

Kyrein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Island of Undisclosed Location

20/20 guided by fate 20% ext enchants.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Drop the +5e mod. The scythe is the hardest-hitting weapon in the game, to give up a huge damage boost for a negligible energy boost is stupid.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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I started using a Droknar's Reaper a while back and never looked back. Zealous, 15^50 and Enchanting are great mods for a scythe for general use.

Of course, it's always beneficial to have other scythes you can switch to when you need to. I'd also invest in an Ebon Scythe, Vampiric, and possibly Icy.

A discussion on scythe mods can be found in the Dervish Guide stickied at the top of this forum by the way.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
I started using a Droknar's Reaper a while back and never looked back. Zealous, 15^50 and Enchanting are great mods for a scythe for general use. QFT.

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ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Sundercrits on scythes are hot.

I have a Zealous 15^50 +30, Elemental 15^50 +30, Vamp 15^50 +30 and Sundering 15^50 +30.

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

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I use Sundering 20/20, strength and honor (guided by fate is also good), and of enchanting (Fortitude is also good depending on your build)

If you're running AoM you could consider a zealous scythe mod to try and keep energy up.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

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for PvE you want Zealous, 15^enchant or 15^50 (doesn't really matter), and +20% Enchanting

for PvP you want vampiric, zealous, sundering, and elemental mods, all with 15^50 and +30hp

Brian the Gladiator

Brian the Gladiator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan, USA

Us Are Not [leet]

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Sundering has better DPS then vamp with a scythe... Therefore, you should always use a sundering scythe for your damage swap.

Basically:
--> Sundering swap (for damage)
--> Zealous swap (for energy)
--> Elemental swap (for killing warriors)

--> 15/-1 Staff (for putting up expensive avatars)

Whether you choose hp+30 or enchantment mod is up to you and is pretty build specific TBH.
It is pretty obvious that all attacker classes should be using 15^50 mods 99.99% of the time so... yea

I hope this helps.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Zealous, 15^enchant, 20% Enchants. Godly weapons.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
Sundering has better DPS then vamp with a scythe... Therefore, you should always use a sundering scythe for your damage swap.

Basically:
--> Sundering swap (for damage)
--> Zealous swap (for energy)
--> Elemental swap (for killing warriors)

--> 15/-1 Staff (for putting up Tree with dp)
Fixed.

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Takonic

Takonic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

[TFA] The Forsaken Allegience

Mo/

wow, thanks! i cannot believe there is so much feedback! ...definately got the info needed

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

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Oh and btw, if you're not using attacks "when foe has lower HP than you" you might want to go with defense mod instead of fortitude. I think somewhere here there were made pretty interesting points about this mod being more useful than the additional hp.
But all in all, Zealous is your friend.

Draginvry

Draginvry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)

N/Mo

I'm real fond of the Sundering 15^50

The last mod is a toss-up between Fortitude, Defense, Enchanting. It depends on your build.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
Sundering has better DPS then vamp with a scythe... Therefore, you should always use a sundering scythe for your damage swap. At 14 Scythe Mastery, with a 15^50 and customized Scythe, a Scythe criticals for 86 damage.

Sundering increases this to 105.

Now, if we assume every hit is a critical hit, then Sundering should add 19 damage every 5 hits.

Vampiric adds 25 damage every 5 hits, regardless of critical hits or not. And every single hit being a critical hit is never going to happen.

GForce9x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/W

Pretty much all of the general usage mods have been posted. Basicly just use the one that best suits your build. If you are running Lyssa, give yourself the damage mods. If you're running EDA, use Ebon, 20%Enchanting, and your favorite inscription.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator
Sundering has better DPS then vamp with a scythe... Therefore, you should always use a sundering scythe for your damage swap. this is a lie. vamp has better DPS on every weapon in the game. dont make things up.


anyways, perfect weapon setup imo would be:

zealous
15^50
defense (or fortitude if you feel like spending a bunch of money for no reason)

vampiric
15^50
defense (or fortitude if you feel like spending a bunch of money for no reason)

elemental (probably ebon to trigger EDA)
15^50
defense (or fortitude if you feel like spending a bunch of money for no reason)

+20e staff of fortitude (for casting melandru and casting builds)

fivetiger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

How does one go about getting a Zealous snathe? Am I correct in thinking that, unless I get really lucky, I'm going to have to buy one off another player?

Roughly, how much should I expect to pay? I just hit 20, and bought my 70 armor, so not a lot of cash on hand.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
this is a lie. vamp has better DPS on every weapon in the game. dont make things up. You're correct, but the gap isn't as huge with scythes as with other weapons. Sundercrits hurt hardcore. 100+ damage autocrits to the back will kill stuff.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fivetiger
How does one go about getting a Zealous snathe? Am I correct in thinking that, unless I get really lucky, I'm going to have to buy one off another player?

Roughly, how much should I expect to pay? I just hit 20, and bought my 70 armor, so not a lot of cash on hand. They're around 2-5k.

fivetiger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Thank you, Marverick.

Is using the WTB forum here the most convenient way to go? Seems like trying to find a seller in-game would be a bit of a needle-in-a-haystack.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

dont bother with the WTB section on this one. look in the wts threads. use search.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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The funny thing is, Droknar's Reaper is about as good a Melandru scythe as you can get (arguably 15%^50 might be better), and it's quite easy to come by.

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

I use zealous 15^50 20%ench mostly, but I carry sundering, vamp, ebon and shocking in my backpack just incase. vamp and shocking is mostly used for pvp though :\ yay for easy +1s

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
this is a lie. vamp has better DPS on every weapon in the game. dont make things up.


anyways, perfect weapon setup imo would be:

zealous
15^50
defense (or fortitude if you feel like spending a bunch of money for no reason)

vampiric
15^50
defense (or fortitude if you feel like spending a bunch of money for no reason)

elemental (probably ebon to trigger EDA)
15^50
defense (or fortitude if you feel like spending a bunch of money for no reason)

+20e staff of fortitude (for casting melandru and casting builds) agreed

except depending on the build or play style you might wanna go with encht mods, but its all player preference

LEEROY JENKINS v2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

[GvG] Endu Rance

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
At 14 Scythe Mastery, with a 15^50 and customized Scythe, a Scythe criticals for 86 damage.

Sundering increases this to 105.

Now, if we assume every hit is a critical hit, then Sundering should add 19 damage every 5 hits.

Vampiric adds 25 damage every 5 hits, regardless of critical hits or not. And every single hit being a critical hit is never going to happen. Thank you finaly some one that understands that vamp and elementals out preform 20/20 mods damage wise

Edit - i bought 2 30+ for scythes for like 8k each or somthin low like that

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Maverick summed it up well.

In pve, Sundering will be even less attractive when you start fighting stuff with high armor and lvl24+ enemies that will lower your crit hit rate.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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The purpose of a sundering mod is for the burst damage, while it doesn't carry the DPS of a Vampiric, you don't want DPS when you're spiking

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

you dont spike in PvE....

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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But the difference is negligible in PvE so it doesn't really matter

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

but vampiric is still better. even if its not by a ton.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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For PvE then yes you are correct

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

You can swap to an enchanting weapon to cast; the only time I see using an enchanting mod on the primary weapon is if you're using a spell that has to be cycled frequently. If the only enchants on your bar are AoHM and Eternal Aura, you should probably stick to the fortitude mod.

Hooded Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

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someones mad.

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Zealous + Fortitude :d

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

defense > fortitude

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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I use Zealous, 15^50, and +20% ench

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Enchanting on your main weapon is worthless. I really only use 2 enchantments at most - Heart of Fury & AoHM (in PvE) - both of which only need to be recasted once every 25-30 seconds. Have a hsr10%, +20% one hand and hsr10% focus for casting enchantments.

As for defense/fortitude, ideally the best would be +5 armor on your main weapon with a +60hp weapon swap; that way you get the benefit of the damage reduction of +5 armor and the health bonus when you need it. However, there are only four weapon slots <_<

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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It's not worthless, but if you really wanted to manage detail a little bit further in exchange for getting a little bit more out of the character, yes, you could use a casting swap for enchantments. Considering the lag waiting for weapon switches to go through, though, I honestly couldn't be bothered.

Marlenus Ar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

The Rebel Empire

D/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takonic
so I made my dervish a while back, but never gotten serious about her...but she is fun again! ...but she needs a scythe.....any suggestions on some good scythe mods to look at ..?

she currently using

+5 nrg
Zealous
Fortitude scythe...

I hear 20/20 enchant20% are good too but..not sure...need some insight! thanks!
Here is my version of a "Perfect" Scythe (I am partial to the Ancient scythe)

Q9 Bought a "clean" one for 2k
Inscription Strength & Honor 15^50 Bought for 1k
Sundering Snathe 20/20 Bought for 6k
Grip of Fortitude +30 Bought for 4k
Total Cost 13k

Resale value:
Sold one for 40K
Sold one for 35k
Sold 2 for 30k each

As for damage...if u like to go hunting for a Chunk of Drake Flesh, as I do, hits of 198 are common for me against these weak monsters, and I have gotten black dye drops from Drakes as well, although I'm sure its not because
of using an Ancient...(just a little insight there). I find the weapon stats listed here truly sufficient that go very well with my build...many times, in a party of 8, I am the last one standing...

Marlenus Ar

milkflopance

milkflopance

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

England

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlenus Ar
many times, in a party of 8, I am the last one standing... Tanks are also usually the last ones standing. That doesn't make them, their equipment, or their builds good though.

As others have said, Sundering < Vamp for DPS.